Deficit up 17%

There is no such thing as quality healthcare at affordable prices. Doesn't exist in this country, myth. The cost has been, and now is, totally out of control. There is only one way, ONE, to get the aforementioned, reduce the cost of drugs, doctors and equipment. Can be done easily but difficult to roll back.

That's the dilemma, though. In a capitalistic system the market and not price controls set prices. Obamacare simply turned a fire into a conflagration by increasing demand without ever addressing any of the costs. Some things driving cost could be managed ... like excessive testing by docs having to CYA ... that addresses costs for materials, facilities, and labor. Action on both patents and mergers to spur price competition for drugs and supplies. One thing we really need to address is the issue of manufacturers selling drugs and supplies outside the US at far lower prices and making up the loss by higher US prices - that one does require government intervention, and probably euthanasia of lobbyists and crooked politicians. There's also the need for rationally assigning costs for purely elective care ... Joe doesn't need to be a girl requiring some snips here and there and lifelong hormones at our expense.

Of course, there is the thing about drugs made in places like China and India. My med for blood pressure is tainted with a carcinogen. I'll give FDA a thumbs up for being asleep at the wheel ... again. Fixing one problem while potentially creating another doesn't help much, but new drug warnings generally sound like if you take one of the new, exorbitant, wonder pills you'll be dead of something else by sunset.
 
The only stain is that libs have made sure we waffled and never address who those people actually are and what they have done. The stain would have gone away with releasing any innocents (unlikely), by executing the worst, and put the rest to breaking rocks for a set period of time. "Innocents" released by fools like Obama were caught again doing the same old terrorist things. But then Obama wanted to try people (who slaughtered the real innocents) like they were just good neighborhood boys who knocked off the corner market and only pistol whipped the owners. If the enemy in war doesn't wear a uniform, it doesn't make him a noncombatant; they should simply have been executed on the battlefield.

You are blaming Gitmo on the Libs? America is supposed to stand for human rights. We have, with the stroke of a pen, redefined what a prisoner of war is. What torture is. What human rights that are inalienable. It is disgusting. Try them or set 'em free. But we have decided to withdraw from the Geneva convention and commit war crimes. All involved should be held accountable.

We have created a double standard that is despicable. If they are guilty then try them and convict them and hold them accountable.
 
You are blaming Gitmo on the Libs? America is supposed to stand for human rights. We have, with the stroke of a pen, redefined what a prisoner of war is. What torture is. What human rights that are inalienable. It is disgusting. Try them or set 'em free. But we have decided to withdraw from the Geneva convention and commit war crimes. All involved should be held accountable.

We have created a double standard that is despicable. If they are guilty then try them and convict them and hold them accountable.

I'm blaming the inability to clear out the backlog on the libs. And, no, for the record, I don't believe terrorists deserve any rights ... they've never been concerned about innocents themselves.
 
I'm blaming the inability to clear out the backlog on the libs. And, no, for the record, I don't believe terrorists deserve any rights ... they've never been concerned about innocents themselves.

You are either for human rights or your are not.
 
You are either for human rights or your are not.

Well, if terrorists aren't excluded from the same category as real human beings, then I suppose I'm not much for human rights ... I'll just tack that on the wall with "deplorable" and other things libs and I disagree on. I tend to have a problem with extending a right to someone who willfully takes that right from someone else - that goes beyond duplicity and respect for human life - and a terrorist had the choice to choose the right path and didn't.
 
Seriously, anybody defending Trump ITT needs to just STFU. Trump will tout fake GDP increases built on the backs of our debt enslaved children, and y'all will praise him. #MAGA

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Well we didn't get a $2 trillion infrastructure package but we did get a $2 trillion free money giveaway.
I am against this 2 trillion dollar package but this is a government forced collapse, so maybe they should do something? Other than scrapping the bill which is too late now and telling the people to get back to work, I don’t know the perfect answer.
 
I am against this 2 trillion dollar package but this is a government forced collapse, so maybe they should do something? Other than scrapping the bill which is too late now and telling the people to get back to work, I don’t know the perfect answer.

It's standard government operating procedure. Create a crisis situation and then come to the rescue with a bunch of money.
 
I am against this 2 trillion dollar package but this is a government forced collapse, so maybe they should do something? Other than scrapping the bill which is too late now and telling the people to get back to work, I don’t know the perfect answer.

Yeah, great fkn idea. The people that created the problem should give a bunch of money to their buddies to pretend to fix the problem. You could justify almost any government spending with this rationale.
 
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Yeah, great fkn idea. The people that created the problem should give a bunch of money to their buddies to pretend to fix the problem. You could justify almost any government spending with this rationale.
Best resolution is to let 90% of the country get back to work
 
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I am against this 2 trillion dollar package but this is a government forced collapse, so maybe they should do something? Other than scrapping the bill which is too late now and telling the people to get back to work, I don’t know the perfect answer.
This is a horrible perspective. Government is fiscally irresponsible for decades. Forces a collapse. Spends more we don't have. Forces another catastrophe in the future. Bad plan.
 

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