Delta Variant

[MAD]

I would wager that the number of unvaccinated are likely equal left and right. While the media on the right is vocal they have no influence on the majority of people's decisions to get a vaccine or not.

 

[KB5252]

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The actual numbers of vaccinated vs unvaccinated would be useful. Virtue signaling, especially among the Uber political, who are must likely to be asked to participate in polls like this, is way too common in the left and right.

It wouldn't surprise me if at least half of those right wingers who said no still got that vaccine. It also wouldn't surprise me if many of those left wingers didn't.

 

[Jxn Vol]

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99% survival rate.

 

[AshG]

The survival rate focus is missing out on multiple metrics. Long haulers would have something to say about the singular focus on live/dead.

 

[volinbham]

The survival rate focus is missing out on multiple metrics. Long haulers would have something to say about the singular focus on live/dead.

HHS Secretary used the singular focus...just sayin'

 

[Jxn Vol]

The survival rate focus is missing out on multiple metrics. Long haulers would have something to say about the singular focus on live/dead.

So would the post vaccine dead folks. If they were alive. Or the folks that suicided or overdosed themselves during the lockdown. They can’t say anything either.

 

[AshG]

So would the post vaccine dead folks. If they were alive. Or the folks that suicided or overdosed themselves during the lockdown. They can’t say anything either.

I appreciate your passion for this part of the conversation. Just remember that there are others who have different experiences than you. Not better or worse, just different.

 

[volinbham]

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I continually see the "political divide" representation of this but rarely hear the ethnic divide.

Overall, across these 40 states, the percent of White people who have received at least one COVID-19 vaccine dose (47%) was roughly 1.4 times higher than the rate for Black people (34%) and 1.2 times higher than the rate for Hispanic people (39%) as of July 6, 2021. White people had a higher vaccination rate compared to Hispanic people in all reporting states, except Virginia, Vermont, Missouri, Louisiana, the District of Columbia, and Tennessee, and a higher rate than Black people in every reporting state, except Oregon, Alaska, and Idaho.

Given that black people are more likely to be democrat and same for hispanic it seems there is also a political divide and the above Republican vs Democrat cannot be an accurate representation of actual vaccination rates.

Source:

Latest Data on COVID-19 Vaccinations by Race/Ethnicity

 

[Jxn Vol]

I appreciate your passion for this part of the conversation. Just remember that there are others who have different experiences than you. Not better or worse, just different.

Just laying down facts.

No long term data. Fact
99% survival rate. Fact

 

[Orangeburst]

I continually see the "political divide" representation of this but rarely hear the ethnic divide.

Overall, across these 40 states, the percent of White people who have received at least one COVID-19 vaccine dose (47%) was roughly 1.4 times higher than the rate for Black people (34%) and 1.2 times higher than the rate for Hispanic people (39%) as of July 6, 2021. White people had a higher vaccination rate compared to Hispanic people in all reporting states, except Virginia, Vermont, Missouri, Louisiana, the District of Columbia, and Tennessee, and a higher rate than Black people in every reporting state, except Oregon, Alaska, and Idaho.

Given that black people are more likely to be democrat and same for hispanic it seems there is also a political divide and the above Republican vs Democrat cannot be an accurate representation of actual vaccination rates.

Source:

Latest Data on COVID-19 Vaccinations by Race/Ethnicity

Udoneitnow

 

[Orangeburst]

Individual liberty

Hate this and dont even get it. Guess their campaign was somewhat effective

 

[C-south]

Just laying down facts.

No long term data. Fact
99% survival rate. Fact

And even that is based on skewed and biased numbers trying to make it worse than it is.

 

[Electric Orange]

Allegedly

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

CDC saying unvaccinated kids will be required to wear masks to school

What about kids with antibodies?

Oh yeah... I forgot.... it's all about people's health and the SciEnCe.

 

[Jxn Vol]

And even that is based on skewed and biased numbers trying to make it worse than it is.

Totally agree. Amazing how there were only a handful of flu diagnoses in 2020. Completely ginned up panic.

 

[Vol Main]

The survival rate focus is missing out on multiple metrics. Long haulers would have something to say about the singular focus on live/dead.

I know a long hauler who took the vaccine and stated that it relieved her worst symptoms. She was very glad for the vaccine.

 

[0nelilreb]

I know a long hauler who took the vaccine and stated that it relieved her worst symptoms. She was very glad for the vaccine.

I know one that isn’t going to because he doesn’t have any symptoms to relive .

 

[Rickyvol77]

The bone headed deniers like we see in this forum are spreading and perpetuating the pandemic. They are responsible for thousands of deaths, and they don't care. They just parrot the spoon fed lies from right wing media and hate on decent, civilized people who are trying to do right by others. They seriously accuse people who social distance, wear masks, and take the vaccine as "brainwashed" followers, when that is exactly what they are. Those words are spoon fed to them during their continual right wing media brainwashing. The habitually ignorant and pathetically stupid cling into little groups of the ignorant and stupid, because they do not fit among normal, educated, civilized people. It is easier for them to seek confirmation in life among their own kind, parroting spoon fed words while shirking the work necessary to learn true from false. If they ever knew the difference between right and wrong, they no longer know because they think what they are told to think and do what they are told to do.

Wait, wait, you believe YOU are educated and normal and civilized, but the rest of us aren’t? . But seriously no one here has killed anyone so stop with the high school dramatics

 

[Rickyvol77]

Just laying down facts.

No long term data. Fact
99% survival rate. Fact

Some care about personal experiences and feelings more

 

[evillawyer]

Just laying down facts.

No long term data. Fact
99% survival rate. Fact

So true. Let's focus on the real existential threats: cancel culture and CRT.

 

[Vol Main]

I know one that isn’t going to because he doesn’t have any symptoms to relive .

Then he is not a long hauler. Duh.

 

[Vol Main]

So it's only right wingers who question the safety of the vaccine and aren't vaccinated? I think you need to unplug and take time away from politics. It appears you are every bit as indoctrinated there cowboy.

So you are trying to put words into my mouth. Where besides nowhere did I say that only right wingers question the vaccine's safety? Look-it, I am not interested in trying to talk with someone who distorts what I say for the purpose of making something I did not say easy to refute or ridicule. I'm sorry, but I'm just not interested in knowing you.

 

[82_VOL_83]

So you are trying to put words into my mouth. Where besides nowhere did I say that only right wingers question the vaccine's safety? Look-it, I am not interested in trying to talk with someone who distorts what I say for the purpose of making something I did not say easy to refute or ridicule. I'm sorry, but I'm just not interested in knowing you.

When caught in a lie, deny, deny, deny.

 

[kiddiedoc]

I know a long hauler who took the vaccine and stated that it relieved her worst symptoms. She was very glad for the vaccine.

That just doesn't make any scientific sense, whatsoever. Placebo effect?

 

[AshG]

That just doesn't make any scientific sense, whatsoever. Placebo effect?

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.