Democrats have not Compromised/Broken Ranks in at least 50 years

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BowlBrother85 said:
The Arizona Governor's Election wasn't stolen from Kari Lake.

There were issues on Election Day involving printers at 70 of Maricopa County's 223 polling sites. The printers produced ballots with ink that was too light to be read by vote-counting machines. This caused some ballots to be rejected. It forced some voters to wait in line, travel to another location, or deposit their ballots in secure boxes which were transferred to downtown Phoenix to be counted there. County officials, including Maricopa County Chairman Bill Gates, who is a Republican, have said that no one was denied the right to vote.
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OrangeBoro said:
Funny watching the party of biden crime family, harris, fetterman, bernie sanders, sheila jackson lee, robert o'rourke, stacy abrams etc.. attempt to lecture someone else about nominating poor candidates.
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You left out Mad Max, the squad, and no doubt countless others. Dems would elect Charles Manson if he were available.
 
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OrangeBoro said:
I meant more they are radical lunatics
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... but that isn't going to elevate the discourse above the tribal level. For every Maxine Waters, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez and Sheila Jackson Lee on the left ... there is a Lauren Boebert, Marjorie Taylor Greene, George Santos, Paul Gosar and Louie Gohmert on the right.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
@BreatheUT is probably a die hard believer in that same theory ... so bringing it to his attention won't change anything. He is a true far-right extremist.
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I wear your assertion as a badge of honor. Speaking of right wing extremists and all.....


Tony Dungy to attend March for Life, dubbed right-wing extremist

March for Life takes place Jan. 20


Hall of Fame football coach Tony Dungy announced Wednesday on Twitter that he will be attending the March for Life in Washington, D.C., on Friday.

The two-time Super Bowl champion (one as a player, one as a coach) said he will attend "to support those unborn babies who don’t have a voice."
It will be his first time at the rally, and it has sparked criticism in the media.



Tony Dungy to attend March for Life, dubbed right-wing extremist
 
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AM64 said:
I don't think it's that republicans don't care. It's now a cruel fact of life that if you don't "bring home the bacon", you probably aren't getting reelected. Campaigns are all based around promises, and the electorate wants to know what's in it for them. In the end once somebody started buying votes with tax money, conservatism was dead. The voters in our republican system of government simply figured out how to drain the treasury by selecting the middlemen. If republicans don't play the game, they don't get elected, and that's not good either because they do limit some of the excesses. For example, with better COP numbers in congress, perhaps the 2008 stimulus, loans, and obamaCare might have died; but you can't kill something if you can't get elected.
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I still see that as not caring.
 
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AM64 said:
I don't think it's that republicans don't care. It's now a cruel fact of life that if you don't "bring home the bacon", you probably aren't getting reelected. Campaigns are all based around promises, and the electorate wants to know what's in it for them. In the end once somebody started buying votes with tax money, conservatism was dead. The voters in our republican system of government simply figured out how to drain the treasury by selecting the middlemen. If republicans don't play the game, they don't get elected, and that's not good either because they do limit some of the excesses. For example, with better COP numbers in congress, perhaps the 2008 stimulus, loans, and obamaCare might have died; but you can't kill something if you can't get elected.
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If you are not willing to put your personal career ambitions at stake in order to stand behind your principles (such as fiscal responsibility), then those principles were flexible, and not very important to you in the first place.
 
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As a reinforcement to the OP, the leftist filth in the WH, senate and house have made it clear that they have no intent to compromise to resolve the debt crisis.
 
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TNVOLNAVY said:
As a reinforcement to the OP, the leftist filth in the WH, senate and house have made it clear that they have no intent to compromise to resolve the debt crisis.
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Why are Republicans only concerned about the debt crisis when a Democrat is President?

It's a fair question.

The debt ceiling was raised 3 times while Donald Trump was President, even as the national debt continued to soar. Republicans did not make an issue of it then.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
President Trump has Signed $4.7 Trillion of Debt into Law | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

During the first 3 years of Trump's presidency, from January 20, 2017 to January 20, 2020 ....

(and I'm only going to talk about the first 3 years, because you can use the COVID excuse after that)

.... he signed $4.7 trillion worth of debt into law. This was with a booming economy at the time, which did not need fiscal stimulus. For the first two years of Trump's presidency, Republicans controlled both chambers of Congress, and by a substantial margin in the House of Representatives. The debt ceiling was raised three times while Trump was President.

It is comical to completely blame Democrats for the debt, but that's what it looks like you're doing.

Also ... Trump added all of that debt after pledging to completely eliminate the debt during the 2016 Presidential Election Campaign during his time in office. LOL!
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BB, you are nothing if not predictable.
 
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LouderVol said:
I still see that as not caring.
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I can understand that. However, if you aren't elected, then you have no chance of making a difference. Winning a battle by refusing to budge on ideals and losing the spending war really isn't winning by any definition of the word. I see the problem as having as much to do with the electorate as the elected. Eventually the most conservative of voters get fed up with watching their federal tax dollars go to other places and realize the dollars are going to be spent and they are not in any way the recipients.
 
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volfanhill said:
Can I point out scum bag Dems without you pitching a fit? Or are we just supposed to accept your lack of reflection?
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Sure, but don't act like Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene is just a fringe member of the Republican Party. As a reward for voting for Kevin McCarthy, for Speaker of the House on all 15 ballots, she was appointed a seat on one of the most consequential committees. Marjorie Taylor Greene is now a member of the House Oversight Committee.

Thanks to Speaker McCarthy, she is now one of the most influential Republicans in the House of Representatives. Last Tuesday, in the thread entitled, "FBI executed search warrant on Trump," you tried to dismiss Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene as only being a "fringe whacko" member of the Republican Party. That may have been true a month ago, but it's not anymore.

Greene, Gosar, Santos land committee assignments
 
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AM64 said:
True, but it wasn't 81M doing it ... and this happened in NY, so you have to take that into account.
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Republicans would also appoint George Santos to .... not just one .... but two House committees .... and they did.

Kevin McCarthy has no shame.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Republicans would also appoint George Santos to .... not just one .... but two House committees .... and they did.

Kevin McCarthy has no shame.
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There's a cure for all this, and it should have been done a very long time ago. It's all about process and procedure. You vet people thoroughly through an official process for the constitutional requirements - like age, citizenship, and residency requirements. If all those other attributes are important - education, tax records, job history, then add a constitutional amendment requiring verification, otherwise we may both agree that they should be checked but there is no requirement or qualification to do so.

What would do the job and isn't done is a requirement for a security clearance - a lot of those questions are or at least used to be on the forms. Once on paper, you have verifiable facts to check out. Lie and no clearance, No clearance and you have no path to office. It's a really simple concept that we ignore, but people being elected to congress, their staff, people in the administration and appointed positions all need access to classified documents. Simply require that any candidate be vetted for high level security clearance before the name goes on the ballot. That's all it takes, and this nonsense goes away. It's beyond foolish that we aren't doing it right now.
 
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