Democrats have not Compromised/Broken Ranks in at least 50 years

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BowlBrother85 said:
By all accounts, the Democratic Party did much better than expected in the most recent election cycle, which was just a few months ago.

Democrats picked up a seat in the Senate, while only losing 9 seats in the House. Every projection had Republicans picking up at least 12 seats in the House. The toss up elections in the House, went in the Democrats favor by a 2 to 1 margin.

Democrats also won elections for Governor in battleground states such as Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

There wasn't anything close to a "red wave." That sure doesn't sound like failing to me.
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I agree democrats did better than expected. I believe we are now seeing the powerful impact of ballot harvesting and 3 month long voting cycles, potentially along with other nefarious activities like what happened in Arizona with machine failure and Katie Hobbs running the election.

There is personal winning and then there is holistic winning. There is such a thing as failing up. When you do nothing good, are unproven, or just flat out incompetent but you are rewarded. There are example after example.

One could say Pruitt was winning when he was hired as head coach but it was disastrous for the UT football program and athletic department. Personally he won. Holistically for the organization and school it lost because it was a very bad decision.

If you are married and one person goes rouge and goes on a spending spree, has a new sports car that is the envy of neighbors, goes on lavish vacations, frequents the finest restaurants, wears expensive jewelry and live in a house you can't afford then you can claim your winning. In reality, you're broke, live off credit cards, about to go bankrupt, hate each other and the marriage is failing but the kids don't know. Personally they look like they're winning. Realistically everyone is losing.

Deceiving people on a house of cards ain't really winning.
 
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It’s cute to watch folks still think it’s the Ds fault or it’s the Rs fault.

Wake up people. The Ds and the Rs are together on all this stuff. It’s a good cop bad cop routine. Or political theater.

The uniparty is all about controlling the citizens. The D vs R is a sideshow for the real agenda. Once your eyes are opened to this you will begin to understand.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
It’s cute to watch folks still think it’s the Ds fault or it’s the Rs fault.

Wake up people. The Ds and the Rs are together on all this stuff. It’s a good cop bad cop routine. Or political theater.

The uniparty is all about controlling the citizens. The D vs R is a sideshow for the real agenda. Once your eyes are opened to this you will begin to understand.
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It may be important what those 20 holdouts did. It was teapartyesque.
 
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BreatheUT said:
I agree democrats did better than expected. I believe we are now seeing the powerful impact of ballot harvesting and 3 month long voting cycles, potentially along with other nefarious activities like what happened in Arizona with machine failure and Katie Hobbs running the election.

There is personal winning and then there is holistic winning. There is such a thing as failing up. When you do nothing good, are unproven, or just flat out incompetent but you are rewarded. There are example after example.

One could say Pruitt was winning when he was hired as head coach but it was disastrous for the UT football program and athletic department. Personally he won. Holistically for the organization and school it lost because it was a very bad decision.

If you are married and one person goes rouge and goes on a spending spree, has a new sports car that is the envy of neighbors, goes on lavish vacations, frequents the finest restaurants, wears expensive jewelry and live in a house you can't afford then you can claim your winning. In reality, you're broke, live off credit cards, about to go bankrupt, hate each other and the marriage is failing but the kids don't know. Personally they look like they're winning. Realistically everyone is losing.

Deceiving people on a house of cards ain't really winning.
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You are either a sore loser, or you are delusional to an extreme ... but you do fit in very well with what the Republican Party has devolved into these last 7 years.

The Republican Party is now the home of irrational election denialists and conspiracy theory crackpots.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You are either a sore loser, or you are delusional to an extreme ... but you do fit in very well with what the Republican Party has devolved into these last 7 years.

The Republican Party is now the home of irrational election denialists and conspiracy theory crackpots.
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Nice retort.

I could see you not believing the McDonald's bags were real until someone pulled the cash out to your face.

I can cite numerous examples but in no sane country does John Fetterman win an election. We can even use poor African nations as an example. He is a candidate for short bus recipient of the year. Now Oz was a bad candidate but he is a smart guy. Fetterman on the other hand is a circus side show. He is one of several that hid on the campaign trail and got away with it for various reasons.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Nice retort.
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You are a far-right extremist, who parrots all of their talking points. You can't prove that systemic election fraud has occurred on the scale necessary to alter the outcome of even one election ... but when Republicans lose elections, their views are never attributed to the defeat. It's always this denialist lunacy.

You are an unhinged and irrational wing nut.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Nice retort.

I could see you not believing the McDonald's bags were real until someone pulled the cash out to your face.

I can cite numerous examples but in no sane country does John Fetterman win an election. We can even use poor African nations as an example. He is a candidate for short bus recipient of the year. Now Oz was a bad candidate but he is a smart guy. Fetterman on the other hand is a circus side show. He is one of several that hid on the campaign trail and got away with it for various reasons.
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You could also be describing dementia joe here
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You are a far-right extremist, who parrots all of their talking points. You can't prove that systemic election fraud has occurred on the scale necessary to alter the outcome of even one election ... but when Republicans lose elections, their views are never attributed to the defeat. It's always this denialist lunacy.

You are an unhinged and irrational wing nut.
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Lol at you trying to repeat my lines because I called you an unhinged leftist yesterday.
 
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BreatheUT said:
I can cite numerous examples but in no sane country does John Fetterman win an election.
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Then cite some examples of proven systemic fraud, significant enough in nature to have altered the outcome of an election.

All you ever do, is post some version of these 2 statements :

"Anybody who thinks that Joe Biden received 81 million votes is as crazy as he is."

and

"No sane person believes that (fill in the blank name of a Democrat) actually won that election."

^^^^ These 2 statements are not proof of fraud. ^^^^

You claim to be able to cite "numerous examples" but you never do. If you knew of an example of systemic fraud, which altered the outcome of an election, then you would be able to name it. You are blowing smoke.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Nice retort.

I could see you not believing the McDonald's bags were real until someone pulled the cash out to your face.

I can cite numerous examples but in no sane country does John Fetterman win an election. We can even use poor African nations as an example. He is a candidate for short bus recipient of the year. Now Oz was a bad candidate but he is a smart guy. Fetterman on the other hand is a circus side show. He is one of several that hid on the campaign trail and got away with it for various reasons.
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Oz believed they were selling children on the internet disguised using a furniture site and code words. He's a loon
 
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The GOP should have run away with the midterms. They are in the midst of a golden opportunity because the Democrats are suffering from a severe lack of leadership. However, they continue to trot out whackadoos like Marjorie Taylor Greene. The fact she won scares most sane voters and persuades them to stay away from the GOP.

The GOP needs to break ranks with Trump and his ilk and get out a positive message instead of the message of conspiracy and denial they are currently embracing. Most of the GOP candidates spend more time discussing bs issues than putting forth a cohesive message regarding real issues like the economy, infrastructure, the debt etc.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
The GOP should have run away with the midterms. They are in the midst of a golden opportunity because the Democrats are suffering from a severe lack of leadership. However, they continue to trot out whackadoos like Marjorie Taylor Greene. The fact she won scares most sane voters and persuades them to stay away from the GOP.

The GOP needs to break ranks with Trump and his ilk and get out a positive message instead of the message of conspiracy and denial they are currently embracing. Most of the GOP candidates spend more time discussing bs issues than putting forth a cohesive message regarding real issues like the economy, infrastructure, the debt etc.
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He mentioned Katie Hobbs earlier, and she was a weak candidate for Governor of Arizona. However, Kari Lake's primary message to the people of Arizona was that the 2020 Presidential Election was stolen from Donald Trump, and the system of elections in the United States shouldn't be trusted. Is it really that surprising that Kari Lake lost?
 
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Jxn Vol said:
It’s cute to watch folks still think it’s the Ds fault or it’s the Rs fault.

Wake up people. The Ds and the Rs are together on all this stuff. It’s a good cop bad cop routine. Or political theater.

The uniparty is all about controlling the citizens. The D vs R is a sideshow for the real agenda. Once your eyes are opened to this you will begin to understand.
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Sadly there is much more "truthiness" in this statement than I would like.

BowlBrother85 said:
He mentioned Katie Hobbs earlier, and she was a weak candidate for Governor of Arizona. However, Kari Lake's primary message to the people of Arizona was that the 2020 Presidential Election was stolen from Donald Trump, and the system of elections in the United States shouldn't be trusted. Is it really that surprising that Kari Lake lost?
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What is pathetically sad but darkly humorous is that Kari Lake's election was stolen from her in much the same way as she claimed the Presidential was stolen from Trump in AZ. Incompetence is the mother's milk of municipalities but when it is applied strategically time and time again, it can no longer be considered random nor less than utterly corrupt and nefarious.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Then cite some examples of proven systemic fraud, significant enough in nature to have altered the outcome of an election.

All you ever do, is post some version of these 2 statements :

"Anybody who thinks that Joe Biden received 81 million votes is as crazy as he is."

and

"No sane person believes that (fill in the blank name of a Democrat) actually won that election."

^^^^ These 2 statements are not proof of fraud. ^^^^

You claim to be able to cite "numerous examples" but you never do. If you knew of an example of systemic fraud, which altered the outcome of an election, then you would be able to name it. You are blowing smoke.
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I will respond later. Going inside a factory for now.
 
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Gandalf said:
Sadly there is much more "truthiness" in this statement than I would like.



What is pathetically sad but darkly humorous is that Kari Lake's election was stolen from her in much the same way as she claimed the Presidential was stolen from Trump in AZ. Incompetence is the mother's milk of municipalities but when it is applied strategically time and time again, it can no longer be considered random nor less than utterly corrupt and nefarious.
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The Arizona Governor's Election wasn't stolen from Kari Lake.

There were issues on Election Day involving printers at 70 of Maricopa County's 223 polling sites. The printers produced ballots with ink that was too light to be read by vote-counting machines. This caused some ballots to be rejected. It forced some voters to wait in line, travel to another location, or deposit their ballots in secure boxes which were transferred to downtown Phoenix to be counted there. County officials, including Maricopa County Chairman Bill Gates, who is a Republican, have said that no one was denied the right to vote.
 
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Funny watching the party of biden crime family, harris, fetterman, bernie sanders, sheila jackson lee, robert o'rourke, stacy abrams etc.. attempt to lecture someone else about nominating poor candidates.
 
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OrangeBoro said:
Funny watching the party of biden crime family, harris, fetterman, bernie sanders, sheila jackson lee, robert o'rourke, stacy abrams etc.. attempt to lecture someone else about nominating poor candidates.
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Truth.

I could randomly select an audience member from a K-Pop concert and guarantee that they would be more qualified than Fetterman to hold a public office.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Truth.

I could randomly select an audience member from a K-Pop concert and guarantee that they would be more qualified than Fetterman to hold a public office.
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I was almost embarrassed for him when I saw that video of heels up meeting with him and his family. Almost. Like dementia joe, he's brain dead
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Truth.

I could randomly select an audience member from a K-Pop concert and guarantee that they would be more qualified than Fetterman to hold a public office.
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Could you really?

Because John Fetterman does have a Master's Degree in Public Policy from the Harvard University Kennedy School of Government. He was also a 2 term Mayor of a small town in Pennsylvania, and he most recently served as the Lieutenant Governor of Pennsylvania for 4 years.

If you want to take the position that he shouldn't be a United States Senator because of his stroke, that is reasonable. There is nothing wrong with his credentials, however.
 
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OrangeBoro said:
Funny watching the party of biden crime family, harris, fetterman, bernie sanders, sheila jackson lee, robert o'rourke, stacy abrams etc.. attempt to lecture someone else about nominating poor candidates.
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With the exception of O'Rourke and Abrams ... the names you listed have a long track record of winning elections.
 
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