Democrats plan to introduce articles of impeachment as early as Monday

It's crazy that Senators voted on whether or not something is Constitutional. Isn't that determination the purview of the SCOTUS?

There is nothing unconstitutional about the senate coming to an official consensus on whether or not an action of theirs is constitutional. In the end, SCOTUS has the power to deny the action.
 
There is nothing unconstitutional about the senate coming to an official consensus on whether or not an action of theirs is constitutional. In the end, SCOTUS has the power to deny the action.

I wasn't saying it's unconstitutional for them to do so. I was saying they are not the arbiter of whether their action is Constitutional. I'm sure they believe any law they pass is Constitutional but as we've seen that determination lies beyond them.

I'm reacting to reporting saying the Senate voted that something is Constitutional - it's a nonsense statement. It's like me voting myself to be Superbowl MVP.
 
This is nothing more than a freaking sht show.... the democrats are terrified Trump will be back in 2024.

I hope Trump runs against Rubio in 2022 for the Fla senate seat. He already beat liddle Marco in his 2016 home state Florida primary.
 
I wasn't saying it's unconstitutional for them to do so. I was saying they are not the arbiter of whether their action is Constitutional. I'm sure they believe any law they pass is Constitutional but as we've seen that determination lies beyond them.

I'm reacting to reporting saying the Senate voted that something is Constitutional - it's a nonsense statement. It's like me voting myself to be Superbowl MVP.

This is like responding to the president or any congressman saying something is constitutional/unconstitutional with "you're not the arbiter." We know that. They can still opine on the matter. It's not that weird and it's kinda nice to have them on the record.
 
This is like responding to the president or any congressman saying something is constitutional/unconstitutional with "you're not the arbiter." We know that. They can still opine on the matter. It's not that weird and it's kinda nice to have them on the record.

disagree, I presume Congress never acts without thinking they have the Constitutional authority

Voting to go forward is fine but suggesting the vote establishes the Constitutionality is either bad interpretation by the Senators or the press reporting on it.
 
This is like responding to the president or any congressman saying something is constitutional/unconstitutional with "you're not the arbiter." We know that. They can still opine on the matter. It's not that weird and it's kinda nice to have them on the record.

I guess the problem I see is that when congress while not the appropriate arbiter is deciding constitutionality of doing something and making a decision why is the SC doing nothing? What triggers SC involvement in a history making decision such as impeaching a past president? That's a big step that can change the future. We supposedly have three separate and equal branches of government. If congress can charge the actions of a president - even after his presidency, how does that not forever change the independence and equality of the branches? What happens when they decide that there is another punishment since removal from office is not a possibility? This is deciding to rule on past actions with current thinking - a very dangerous precedent especially if a president took action based on his current knowledge of the situation and the information later proved inaccurate..
 
It is telling that THE main argument of Trump supporters is not that what he did was acceptable but instead that because he's no longer President there is no recourse to hold him accountable.

That's just pathetic
 

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