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Mafiaboss said:
Well, #1 is already down the drain. But there’s a difference between stating facts and bashing.
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It was easy to discern when that was originally put up. The gamethreads can get atrocious but we kind of gave up on the gamethreads but enforce it elsewhere pretty tight. And we don’t argue about it either. That’s part of the problem.

Just report it and poof! 💨

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A little good wordsmithing could give it more clarity to make it enforceable.

…no talking about hairstyles, eyelashes or nails…💅

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CannonVol80 said:
The "answer" may be driven by the determination that student-athletes are employees of the University. There are any number of ancillary matters that are going to be affected by that determination. For example, taxation of the value of a scholarshp, worker's compensation status, and student vs work visa elgibility, just to name a few.

Jim
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My understanding was they could not earn money in the US on a student visa so the only other readily available although not easy to obtain is a work visa where they were actively employed.
 
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Dadof2Vols said:
My understanding was they could not earn money in the US on a student visa so the only other readily available although not easy to obtain is a work visa where they were actively employed.
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I think you are correct in that understanding. But, what I'm suggesting is that the determination that student-athletes are "employees" of their University is going to be in direct conflict with the provisions of a student visa. And, frankly, I see no way to exempt foreign students from the ruling regarding employee status.

Jim
 
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CannonVol80 said:
I think you are correct in that understanding. But, what I'm suggesting is that the determination that student-athletes are "employees" of their University is going to be in direct conflict with the provisions of a student visa. And, frankly, I see no way to exempt foreign students from the ruling regarding employee status.

Jim
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It’s been explained. They can earn money outside the US, as long as the NIL contract is set up that way. It’s been done and passed the sniff test from the Feds.
 
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chuckiepoo said:
It’s been explained. They can earn money outside the US, as long as the NIL contract is set up that way. It’s been done and passed the sniff test from the Feds.
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I may not being clear in my explanation. I am not just talking about the ability of a student-athlete to enter contracts for use of their NIL. The House decision, as I understand it, means that student-athletes are employees of the University. This would mean that a student visa would not be available for foreign students under that scenario and will either require them to obtain a work visa or some modification of the current visa provisions.

Jim
 
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CannonVol80 said:
I may not being clear in my explanation. I am not just talking about the ability of a student-athlete to enter contracts for use of their NIL. The House decision, as I understand it, means that student-athletes are employees of the University. This would mean that a student visa would not be available for foreign students under that scenario and will either require them to obtain a work visa or some modification of the current visa provisions.

Jim
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Could be wrong but I don't think it's final that athletes will be employees of the University, even when they're on salary. The schools are fighting that designation bc of everything else it will bring with it.
 
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LVsinceJV said:
These players are keeping their existing endorsements into their pro careers, and with increasing popularity of the sport have a very high ceiling in coming years.
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Such deals are renegotiated for the time after school. I'm pretty sure. Some for pro sports, some as influencers, etc. The school doesn't pay NIL, anyway. The money is from businesses, who don't have to follow any NIL rules after school. It's between the former athlete (and maybe an agent) and the business, like any other case of advertising or endorsements.
 
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LVsinceJV said:
These players are keeping their existing endorsements into their pro careers, and with increasing popularity of the sport have a very high ceiling in coming years.
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You're saying, just for example, the LSU collective is continuing to pay former LSU players after they graduate?

The NIL collective money is getting serious. All but maybe a tiny handful are doing much better in college than post college.
 
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37620VOL said:
You're saying, just for example, the LSU collective is continuing to pay former LSU players after they graduate?
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The companies sponsoring the NIL $ the LSU player gets could def follow them to the pros. Wouldn't have to go thru the collective anymore. Rickea did videos for that Starry Drink both here and in LA.
 
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glv98 said:
The companies sponsoring the NIL $ the LSU player gets could def follow them to the pros. Wouldn't have to go thru the collective anymore. Rickea did videos for that Starry Drink both here and in LA.
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There is individual NIL which can follow you.

The money pooled in collectives generally does not.

For example the the $8m Nico is getting ain't happening once he leaves Knoxville. Same thing is happening to a lesser extent in wcbb.

We are in the NIL game for hs wbb players now.
 
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37620VOL said:
There is individual NIL which can follow you.

The money pooled in collectives generally does not.

For example the the $8m Nico is getting ain't happening once he leaves Knoxville. Same thing is happening to a lesser extent in wcbb.

We are in the NIL game for hs wbb players now.
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Some schools are, some are not. It’s like Clemson in CFB, they refuse to play the portal/NIL game, it’s hurting them obviously. In WBB the top 25-30 players command some kind of NIL commitment, from a school collective to start with, it’s just how it works now. Yeah, Nico cashed in big time, prob over time those kinds of deals will level out, maybe.

The real juice is in teams that can help line up sponsorships for players to maximize their NIL opportunities to the fullest with national or large regional media opportunities.
 
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Rooster1 said:
Some schools are, some are not. It’s like Clemson in CFB, they refuse to play the portal/NIL game, it’s hurting them obviously. In WBB the top 25-30 players command some kind of NIL commitment, it’s just how it works now. Yeah, Nico cashed in big time, prob over time those kinds of deals will level out, maybe.
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Dak Prescott became the highest paid qb just before the season started. Perception…Jerry Jones’ perception, but still. 😉
 
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chuckiepoo said:
Dak Prescott became the highest paid qb just before the season started. Perception…Jerry Jones’ perception, but still. 😉
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Chuck, once you get to the pros it is different. Dak was never close to the best QB in the NFL, but the Cowboys made him so monetarily because they could not easily replace him. Timing is everything in the pros, when a contract is coming due, the good players have leverage which is not the case in college ball in the absence of contracts except for those cases (to a much lesser degree) where a player is choosing a school or transferring.
 
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Rooster1 said:
Chuck, once you get to the pros it is different. Dak was never close to the best QB in the NFL, but the Cowboys made him so monetarily because they could not easily replace him. Timing is everything in the pros, when a contract is coming due, the good players have leverage which is not the case in college ball in the absence of contracts except for those cases (to a much lesser degree) where a player is choosing a school or transferring.
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I was more pointing out the fallacy of NIL cost leveling out.
 
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I have been on this site for what, over ten years now, why did I never realize there are so few posters here, damn. “You are killing me smalls.”

Fixing to get plenty busy around here in these parts this season, watch it happen Chuck. You will be quite the celebrity once it starts rolling. It has started, can you feel it yet brother?
 
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Rooster1 said:
I have been on this site for what, over ten years now, why did I never realize there are so few posters here, damn. “You are killing me smalls.”

Fixing to get plenty busy around here in these parts this season, watch it happen Chuck.
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It has exploded over at the baseball forum since I joined up about five years ago. I’ve recently lived through the deluge of drive-bys and trolls. Won’t be long until the gamethreads here will be insufferable, but I’ve got a refuge. 😉
 
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chuckiepoo said:
It has exploded over at the baseball forum since I joined up about five years ago. I’ve recently lived through the deluge of drive-bys and trolls. Won’t be long until the gamethreads here will be insufferable, but I’ve got a refuge. 😉
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If we are right, this site is going to explode this season. All of the FB/BB and baseball fans will be dropping in. I expect it will get busy again around here Chuckie. Just give it a little time, they all remember which team at UT has the most championships and once it starts rolling again they will jump on the wagon.
 
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Rooster1 said:
If we are right, this site is going to explode this season. All of the FB/BB and baseball fans will be dropping in. I expect it will get busy again around here Chuckie. Just give it a little time, they all remember which team at UT has the most championships and once it starts rolling again they will jump on the wagon.
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They are already showing up for gamethreads.
 
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chuckiepoo said:
They are already showing up for gamethreads.
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How big is the wagon? Infinite? GL and all support is welcomed as part of the resurgence….your coach and AD are counting on it. I think Kim will deliver good results, I really believe in what she is building.
 
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