Deniya Prawl to Tennessee!

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CannonVol80 said:
DP, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the NIL restriction for foreign students based on the type of visa they were admitted under? And, isn't the restriction that the student visa did not allow the individual to work? If I am correct in that regard doesn't it seem that there is going to have to be some modification in the visa process, given the recent court ruling that student-athletes are employees of the University. Perhaps a modification of the work visa to provide for and include student-athletes?

Jim
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Coach Jumper said:
then what will be the next ransom

Thats why I like players like Finley Chastain,,,she told me that NIL wasn't the factor,,,coaching and preparations for the pros was her incentive

and for those who want to "gutter" this,,Shawn, her Dad and I have a VG rapport
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You can’t think everyone will be the same, they all have different backgrounds and want to make as much money as they can now, everything can be taken away in an instant. I don’t blame the players for wanting money, we have players coming in that said NIL was a big factor for them as well, we may not know the numbers but it was a factor.
 
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DarkPhoenix said:
You can’t think everyone will be the same, they all have different backgrounds and want to make as much money as they can now, everything can be taken away in an instant. I don’t blame the players for wanting money, we have players coming in that said NIL was a big factor for them as well, we may not know the numbers but it was a factor.
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WBB right now has to be a strange career. The most money you will ever make in your profession will be four years at a top college program.
 
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Vols14! said:
She will be, 1st ever! Congrats Deniya Prawl!
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Dak1219 said:
We've had multiple high school

Not sure how that can be, considering Last Tear Poa of LSU has hired attorneys to fight for international players to be able to be included in NIL because she wasn't being included in all that cash down in Louisiana. Think the current rules are pretty strict.
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It’s pretty simple, actually. While an international player can’t directly earn income while here on a student visa, they can sign contracts and be paid for work done in their home country or in another country where they are for a vacation or something like that. A couple of players on the Kentucky men’s team recorded almost an entire years worth of NIL advertisements and promotions while they were on a trip to the Bahamas last year. She could record hers on a trip home to Canada, or with a foreign trip that Tennessee takes in the future. They just have to complete the work in their home country and be paid for it there.

The legal challenge you referenced is so international players here on a student visa could earn income. That’s not an NCAA policy, that’s a federal law. Successfully challenging that is going to be a process longer than any of the careers of someone currently in college. It would be a fundamental change in United States immigration policy that I don’t believe the current administration or the next administration will be interested in changing just to appease some college athletes.
 
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37620VOL said:
It's true now more than ever.
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Definitely not. I’m not sure if yall know that these ladies make sometimes 6 figures per week overseas. They’re getting endorsement deals in the states as well as overseas. Yes NIL is great so they’re starting early but this is definitely not “their ceiling” financially. At all.
 
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37620VOL said:
WBB right now has to be a strange career. The most money you will ever make in your profession will be four years at a top college program.
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It’s not just women’s basketball, other than players that will be first or second round picks in the NFL or NBA, it’s the case for virtually every athlete on campus. Baseball will have some exceptions there, but top line starting pitchers in college baseball are pushing mid six figures as it is as well.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
It’s pretty simple, actually. While an international player can’t directly earn income while here on a student visa, they can sign contracts and be paid for work done in their home country or in another country where they are for a vacation or something like that. A couple of players on the Kentucky men’s team recorded almost an entire years worth of NIL advertisements and promotions while they were on a trip to the Bahamas last year. She could record hers on a trip home to Canada, or with a foreign trip that Tennessee takes in the future. They just have to complete the work in their home country and be paid for it there.

The legal challenge you referenced is so international players here on a student visa could earn income. That’s not an NCAA policy, that’s a federal law. Successfully challenging that is going to be a process longer than any of the careers of someone currently in college. It would be a fundamental change in United States immigration policy that I don’t believe the current administration or the next administration will be interested in changing just to appease some college athletes.
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LVsinceJV said:
These players are keeping their existing endorsements into their pro careers, and with increasing popularity of the sport have a very high ceiling in coming years.
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That’s true for a select few. A lot of pros have significant ability to earn endorsement money at the next level, but I don’t think it’s accurate to say they are keeping their existing endorsements. Caitlin Clark kept State Farm, but she’s one of a handful of players that had national level deals. I’m not aware of any local sponsor in Iowa that kept her into the WNBA. None of the local partnerships that Rickea Jackson had here carried over to Los Angeles. Now, she is doing very well as an endorser, but it’s all new money.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
It’s pretty simple, actually. While an international player can’t directly earn income while here on a student visa, they can sign contracts and be paid for work done in their home country or in another country where they are for a vacation or something like that. A couple of players on the Kentucky men’s team recorded almost an entire years worth of NIL advertisements and promotions while they were on a trip to the Bahamas last year. She could record hers on a trip home to Canada, or with a foreign trip that Tennessee takes in the future. They just have to complete the work in their home country and be paid for it there.

The legal challenge you referenced is so international players here on a student visa could earn income. That’s not an NCAA policy, that’s a federal law. Successfully challenging that is going to be a process longer than any of the careers of someone currently in college. It would be a fundamental change in United States immigration policy that I don’t believe the current administration or the next administration will be interested in changing just to appease some college athletes.
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The answer is if they want to “work” and earn money while in US they need to be sponsored and apply for work visa….
 
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Thanks Chuck! Greetings everyone! I come in peace! Go Vols and Lady Vols! 😀
 
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Dadof2Vols said:
The answer is if they want to “work” and earn money while in US they need to be sponsored and apply for work visa….
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The "answer" may be driven by the determination that student-athletes are employees of the University. There are any number of ancillary matters that are going to be affected by that determination. For example, taxation of the value of a scholarshp, worker's compensation status, and student vs work visa elgibility, just to name a few.

Jim
 
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