Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

[ButchPlz]

Yeah about the 5th time you make a statement, it gets refuted, you don’t want to support it substantively at all, but instead of just shutting up you want to hear yourself talk some more

What statement was refuted? I didn't state a "fact" like a study, I made an observation. Did you "refute" my observations about you? Did you "refute" my experiences? It seems like all you did was dig up post history and screech about...who knows what?

The observations I've made here are:
- You complain about people like Elon Musk more than his actual "weird fans" celebrate him.
- You, a certifiable idiot (based purely on how and what you post) think incorrectly dropping "passport bro" (?) and then insulting family members is a "refutation".

and frankly I'm not sure what else is left here. What's been "refuted"? You haven't proven you aren't an idiot, or a public school flameout, or a drug abuser, that's for sure, which makes me think you don't know what the word actually means. We're not even having an argument- I'm observing that you're dense, and you're circling some kind of weird drain over and over while "refuting" me. Which again deserves a (?).

 

[NashVol11]

What statement was refuted? I didn't state a "fact" like a study, I made an observation. Did you "refute" my observations about you? Did you "refute" my experiences? It seems like all you did was dig up post history and screech about...who knows what?

The observations I've made here are:
- You complain about people like Elon Musk more than his actual "weird fans" celebrate him.
- You, a certifiable idiot (based purely on how and what you post) think incorrectly dropping "passport bro" (?) and then insulting family members is a "refutation".

and frankly I'm not sure what else is left here. What's been "refuted"? You haven't proven you aren't an idiot, or a public school flameout, or a drug abuser, that's for sure, which makes me think you don't know what the word actually means. We're not even having an argument- I'm observing that you're dense, and you're circling some kind of weird drain over and over while "refuting" me. Which again deserves a (?).

You were b****ing about racism and “insulting a family member,” neither of which happened, when you were the one talking about how Japanese/South American women have good values and American women are worthless. I pointed out that neither of those things happened and it’s been an elongated “well, no comment, others can read, here’s an insult and a fantasy I made up about you” ever since. OK, then let others read and there’s nothing for us to talk about, no?

 

[ButchPlz]

You were b****ing about racism and “insulting a family member,” neither of which happened, when you were the one talking about how Japanese/South American women have good values and American women are worthless. I pointed out that neither of those things happened and it’s been an elongated “well, no comment, others can read, here’s an insult and a fantasy I made up about you” ever since. OK, then let others read and there’s nothing for us to talk about, no?

Except both of them did, and I explained why- I've laid out what happened for you twice. Instead of actually answering that, you've now said you're "refuting" me. I'm asking for where you "refuted" anything. We can start by addressing my bad assumptions about you.

Will you refute these, the only observations I made that actually could be "refuted"?

1. you're a public school flameout
2. you're not very intelligent
3. you spend more time complaining about people like Elon Musk than his own fans spend celebrating him
4. you're an actual racist that paints non-white non-Americans with a broad brush
5. you're either a teenager/early 20s part-timer, or someone whose development stunted at that age
6. you've abused substances to the point where your growth was stunted (see #5)

I'm enjoying myself, so if you want to keep quoting my posts I'll keep on going. If you could refute even one of those I'd be happy to have an argument. Instead you're posting the same angry nonsense over and over.

 

[NashVol11]

Except both of them did, and I explained why- I've laid out what happened for you twice. Instead of actually answering that, you've now said you're "refuting" me. I'm asking for where you "refuted" anything. We can start by addressing my bad assumptions about you.

Will you refute these, the only observations I made that actually could be "refuted"?

1. you're a public school flameout
2. you're not very intelligent
3. you spend more time complaining about people like Elon Musk than his own fans spend celebrating him
4. you're an actual racist that paints non-white non-Americans with a broad brush
5. you're either a teenager/early 20s part-timer, or someone whose development stunted at that age
6. you've abused substances to the point where your growth was stunted (see #5)

I'm enjoying myself, so if you want to keep quoting my posts I'll keep on going. If you could refute even one of those I'd be happy to have an argument. Instead you're posting the same angry nonsense over and over.

You didn’t explain why, you just made up **** that no one said or implied about lower standards and non-white Americans so you could argue some more. “American women are bad” types getting flack has nothing to do with standards, wives or racism other than the prejudice they’re showing themselves

 

[CagleMtnVol]

I think I'll trust the guy that launched and caught a booster rocket as big a school bus, maybe not one the size of your bus, and caught it upon return.

There are hundreds of types of Drones. He's not talking about any specific drone. He's talking about a theoretical weapon. He's talking about guiding that weapon using AI and optics.

I realize it's beyond your scope to think on his level but to question his intelligence makes you look rather like an idiot.

It's bigger than a school bus more like a 747 turned on it's end.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

“Developing” would be paying other people to develop it, but none of that is going to happen. The gymnastics to pretend everything he says is the next great invention is impressive

Your irrational hatred is noted and given all the due consideration it deserves.

 

[NashVol11]

Your irrational hatred is noted and given all the due consideration it deserves.

Hell yeah, the rational approach is taking every dumb thing he says at face value and kissing his ass for it

 

[ButchPlz]

You didn’t explain why, you just made up **** that no one said or implied about lower standards and non-white Americans so you could argue some more. “American women are bad” types getting flack has nothing to do with standards, wives or racism other than the prejudice they’re showing themselves

So you have no refutation to the assertion that you're an example of public school system failures, and that you lack intelligence?

Noted for the record, I guess.

 

[NashVol11]

So you have no refutation to the assertion that you're an example of public school system failures, and that you lack intelligence?

You’re wrong and I’m not arguing stupid ass deflections with you as you avoid the topic you originally raised

 

[ButchPlz]

You’re wrong and I’m not arguing stupid ass deflections with you as you avoid the topic you originally raised

Did I call myself a "passport bro"?

I'm fairly certain all I did was call a spade a spade, which you've claimed you've refuted. It's not a stupid ass deflection- I called you an idiot, implied that you spend more time hating on Musk than his fans spend loving him, and based on your follow-ups made further assertions such as that you're willing to broad-brush paint non-American, non-white women if it fits your "goal" (whatever undefined fistful of sand that is) and re-observed that the broken school system produced you.

This is the third or fourth time I've said this. There was no "issue" raised, so I'm not sure what you're arguing. If it's a "stupid ass deflection" that I called you an idiot (which isn't possible, because how could I deflect what wasn't there in my first post?) and then continued to do so because you won't refute it (despite saying you've "refuted" me), then I don't know what else can be said. You can't even remember where all of this started (and again, see my prior post on your memory failing you after just a few minutes, which is certainly evidence towards my points about your stunted brain growth and development).

 

[NashVol11]

Did I call myself a "passport bro"?

I'm fairly certain all I did was call a spade a spade, which you've claimed you've refuted. It's not a stupid ass deflection- I called you an idiot, implied that you spend more time hating on Musk than his fans spend loving him, and based on your follow-ups made further assertions such as that you're willing to broad-brush paint non-American, non-white women if it fits your "goal" (whatever undefined fistful of sand that is) and re-observed that the broken school system produced you.

This is the third or fourth time I've said this. There was no "issue" raised, so I'm not sure what you're arguing. If it's a "stupid ass deflection" that I called you an idiot (which isn't possible, because how could I deflect what wasn't there?) and then continued to do so because you won't refute it (despite saying you've "refuted" me), then I don't know what else can be said. You can't even remember where all of this started (and again, see my prior post on your memory failing you after just a few minutes, which is certainly evidence towards my points about your stunted brain growth and development).

You raised racism, insulting family members, etc. Passport bros get flack because they are often 30 seconds away from ranting about how American women are bad, just like you did. Has nothing to do with “lower standards” or racism or “non-white” or the other BS you made up to deflect to, I’m sure your wife is great and I’m not going to spend 4 more hours on your bad faith garbage

 

[ButchPlz]

You raised racism, insulting family members, etc. Passport bros get flack because they are often 30 seconds away from ranting about how American women are bad, just like you did. Has nothing to do with “lower standards” or racism or “non-white” or the other BS you made up to deflect to, I’m sure your wife is great and I’m not going to spend 4 more hours on your bad faith garbage

I'm not arguing in bad faith. You claimed you refuted me- I'm just asking for receipts on that claim. Have you proven yourself not to be an idiot? Have you proven yourself to have developed beyond the mental age of 20? Have you actually addressed anything other than saying I am making things up (which is false)?

 

[NashVol11]

I'm not arguing in bad faith. You claimed you refuted me, and you still haven't.

I did. Nothing I’ve said had **** to do with racism or family members, and your only response has been making things up, trying to put words in my mouth and trying to deflect to 9 other topics when you can’t defend pulling the race card for no reason

 

[ButchPlz]

I did. Nothing I’ve said had **** to do with racism or family members, and your only response has been making things up, trying to put words in my mouth and trying to deflect to 9 other topics when you can’t defend pulling the race card for no reason

There's no way I can put words in your mouth unless you're reading your own typed posts out loud, which would be very bizarre.

I called you stupid and arrogant. You quoted me and called me a "passport bro" out of nowhere, and claimed American women didn't like me, and implied women abroad (citing Japanese and South American women in particular, both of which are usually considered "non-white") have lower standards, trying to use an old post you took time to dig up. I'm not putting anything anywhere- you said it. You've also claimed you "refuted" me (still waiting), that I am "making stuff up" (observations based on your posts and apparent intelligence level), and that I am "deflecting" (when I made the first post and after you began on the odd "passport bro" business).

So far you've lived up to the "stupid and arrogant" billing.

 

[NashVol11]

There's no way I can put words in your mouth unless you're reading your own typed posts out loud, which would be very bizarre.

I called you stupid and arrogant. You quoted me and called me a "passport bro" out of nowhere, and claimed American women didn't like me, and implied women abroad (citing Japanese and South American women in particular, both of which are usually considered "non-white") have lower standards, trying to use an old post you took time to dig up. I'm not putting anything anywhere- you said it. You've also claimed you "refuted" me (still waiting), that I am "making stuff up" (observations based on your posts and apparent intelligence level), and that I am "deflecting" (when you began on the odd "passport bro" business).

So far you've lived up to the "stupid and arrogant" billing.

You made this up. Next time you jump to “how is this bad faith? I didn’t make anything up” just refer to the above

 

[ButchPlz]

You made this up. Next time you jump to “how is this bad faith? I didn’t make anything up” just refer to the above

Except I did not- you posted it, full of all the implications and innuendos therein. Do you just not like being called a racist when you actually make generalizations and implications about non-white, non-American people?

Would you like me to type it all out a fifth time for fun? It's a little hilarious watching you whine and I've got nothing better to do for the next 10 minutes.

PS: in what world do you think someone calling you stupid and arrogant is attempting to argue anything, much less in "good faith", especially when the first words in response were some odd "passport bro" slang?

 

[NashVol11]

Except I did not- you posted it, full of all the implications and innuendos therein. Do you just not like being called a racist when you actually make generalizations and implications about non-white, non-American people?

Would you like me to type it all out a fifth time for fun? It's a little hilarious watching you whine and I've got nothing better to do for the next 10 minutes.

OK, show me where I posted that “non-white women have lower standards” lol. Shouldn’t be anything for you to type but I’m sure we’ll get several more paragraphs rather than actual quotes from me

 

[LouderVol]

Ladies, ladies, you are both just terrible.

give it a rest.

 

[ButchPlz]

OK, show me where I posted that “non-white women have lower standards” lol. Shouldn’t be anything for you to type

> You decided to directly state that only non-Americans (in this case with what else you have added, non-white non-Americans) would tolerate me (by logical implication, someone you think is worth insulting repeatedly, i.e."passport bro lol"), which implies you think they have low standards.

You directly stated that American women didn't like me, so I had to go abroad to find someone to tolerate me. If American women don't tolerate me (your direct claim), is your assertion that they have better taste than women abroad, or that women abroad have better taste than women in the US? It can't be neither. Lay out what you're saying nice and clear.

 

[NashVol11]

> You decided to directly state that only non-Americans (in this case with what else you have added, non-white non-Americans) would tolerate me (by logical implication, someone you think is worth insulting repeatedly, i.e."passport bro lol"), which implies you think they have low standards.

You directly stated that American women didn't like me, so I had to go abroad to find someone to tolerate me. If American women don't tolerate me (your direct claim), is your assertion that they have better taste than women abroad, or that women abroad have better taste than women in the US? It can't be neither. Lay out what you're saying nice and clear.

It’s saying it took you a long time because the people around you, who you throw under the bus en masse as “worthless,” probably just didn’t want you. Doesn’t mean the person who eventually did has “lower standards,” people can value different things and you can (and almost certainly did) grow and mature during that time

 

[ButchPlz]

It’s saying it took you a long time because the people around you, who you throw under the bus en masse as “worthless,” probably just didn’t want you. Doesn’t mean the person who eventually did has “lower standards,” people can value different things and you can (and almost certainly did) grow and mature during that time

This is not the implication you made by stating I am a "passport bro", nor is it an actual answer to the question.

 

[NashVol11]

This is not the implication you made by stating I am a "passport bro", nor is it an actual answer to the question.

But I was wrong about you being a passport bro, and my only negative feelings about passport bros relate to the ones who do the "Don't marry an American woman, they're bad" thing, so I'm not sure what you think I'm hiding

 

[n_huffhines]

Going in circles with someone that is objectively stupid becomes a waste of time about 3 posts in. Best to let it go and let his retardation stand on its own.

The guy rivals huff in arrogance while knowing literally nothing. I think it's the end result of drug abuse (not kidding).

Against my better judgment, I unignore one post from Butch to see what Nash is talking about, and Butch is talking about me and saying an insensitive word that we all learned to stop saying 20 years ago. Never change, bro.

@kiddiedoc where you at to lay down the hammer against somebody on VN who is actually making light of disabilities?

 

[n_huffhines]

Is it running well now with fewer people? Honest question because I don't use it.

If the DOGE does actually streamline government, it'll be because of Vivek and people like Ron Paul.

My cousin is the biggest Musk fan and his opinion is that Musk is there to try to help government help business, which could go any direction. However, the other people involved do give me some hope that it won't be terrible.

 

[C-south]

I'm not sure he has any "boys", "girls", or anything of the sort. I can't decide if it's because he can't determine who is what or if because nobody actually cares to hang out around him.

I’m sure he has a couple “they/them’s”.