Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

#402
#402
SpaceCoastVol said:
They can provide access to food which the parents of the kids can pay for, but it is not the taxpayers' job to provide food for those kids.
Click to expand...
That's what folks on the socialism side don't want to discuss. The federal gov't doesn't produce profits. They don't produce anything. Thus, when a socialist says, "It's the federal government's job to...", they're actually saying, "It's your job to..."

A few years back, when the Dems were running cover for violent extremists to burn down federal buildings, I was speaking to a young man who defended such because "It's not private property; they're just burning down federal property". My question to him, "Well, who will have to pay for it?" He was legitimately confused until I told him it was mine and his tax money.

To tie this back to the quality of education, this was a mid-20s man who'd gotten his bachelors in pre-law and was in law school. He had no clue that the citizenry bankrolls the feds.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: whodeycin85, SpaceCoastVol and NEO
#404
#404
Is TN a welfare state or just a good place to retire without state income taxes?

Social Security and Medicare spending are huge components of the federal budget and those expenditures will follow retirees where ever they go to live.

Except for Memphis. It’s a democratic welfare city that skews the narrative that TN is an R state that takes more federal benefits than they are paying for.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Orange_Crush
#407
#407
utvolpj said:
And when the parents can't or don't pay?
Click to expand...
What percentage of the average school do they make up?

When I was growing up, there were kids who got 'free lunch'. I get it. There are exceptions. But they are not the majority. And when they get to high school, they can work it off around the school.

Oh, and right or wrong, free lunch was a stigma. Kids are cruel.
 
#408
#408
jwells said:
Get back to me with the kids draw a salary.

I think if you think feeding kids is wrong, it's a wrongheaded take, and likely a reflection on you as a person and teacher. Feeding hungry kids should not be even remotely an issue.

But to the point: when your job sends you to a conference to learn....they feed you.
Click to expand...

The question isn’t “is feeding kids the right or wrong thing to do”. You keep disingenuously proclaiming that.

The question is who should do it.

I think kids should brush their teeth and take baths, I don’t think their teacher should be scrubbing them down. I don’t think it’s the role of the IRS, department of education, department of energy, nor of any other government department to do so.

It’s beyond disingenuous and insanely pathetic to proclaim not wanting the department of education to do something means I don’t want the thing done.

Children were fed before school lunches. Children will be fed after if they were taken away. If the school is the only place your kid is fed, then we need to address not and that’s not an issue of people just being too poor. It’s blatant neglect
 
#410
#410
SpaceCoastVol said:
What percentage of the average school do they make up?

When I was growing up, there were kids who got 'free lunch'. I get it. There are exceptions. But they are not the majority. And when they get to high school, they can work it off around the school.

Oh, and right or wrong, free lunch was a stigma. Kids are cruel.
Click to expand...
But your statement didn't offer any exceptions. I think the numbers would surprise you given the current conditions

I'll just say one of the very last things I'd ever target is little kids getting being fed. That's a losing proposition
 
  • Like
Reactions: BernardKingGOAT and NashVol11
#411
#411
utvolpj said:
Churches will feed lunch to kids in public schools?
Click to expand...
Sure. I know of at least 15-20 churches in Hamilton County that actively buy school supplies for kids and teachers. They're looking for nearly any opportunity to serve the community's kids. Most Hamilton County/Chattanooga schools have a church meeting in them, and each of them are actively looking for ways to serve that school. If the schools shared names of underprivileged kids without food security, I guarantee you that churches would be standing in line to help.

Schools aside, I know of at least a dozen churches with food pantries for underprivileged families.

Now, consider my previous points per the lack of efficiency built into government waste. How much MORE willing will those church congregants be to serve those kids if they were keeping more of their paychecks with lower tax overhead that would come from us shrinking the government?
 
  • Like
Reactions: SlipKidVol
#412
#412
Orange_Crush said:
Sure. I know of at least 15-20 churches in Hamilton County that actively buy school supplies for kids and teachers. They're looking for nearly any opportunity to serve the community's kids. Most Hamilton County/Chattanooga schools have a church meeting in them, and each of them are actively looking for ways to serve that school. If the schools shared names of underprivileged kids without food security, I guarantee you that churches would be standing in line to help.

Schools aside, I know of at least a dozen churches with food pantries for underprivileged families.

Now, consider my previous points per the lack of efficiency built into government waste. How much MORE willing will those church congregants be to serve those kids if they were keeping more of their paychecks with lower tax overhead that would come from us shrinking the government?
Click to expand...
They can't actively serve hot meals daily inside the school. This isn't about food pantries or after school meals
 
  • Like
Reactions: BernardKingGOAT
#414
#414
utvolpj said:
They can't actively serve hot meals daily inside the school. This isn't about food pantries or after school meals
Click to expand...

Lmfao “they have to serve me! How dare they simply give me the money (food stamps) to buy food and free food (food banks)! They have to also actively serve me!”

Huh?
 
#417
#417
utvolpj said:
They can't actively serve hot meals daily inside the school. This isn't about food pantries or after school meals
Click to expand...
Who says they have to? The fed isn't manning the kitchens. They are financially supporting those who do, and if the gov't can, private citizens can. All we're doing is cutting out the feckless in this scenario.

And why not? Churches can't donate the things that schools cook? Their congregants can volunteer in lunch rooms.

If it's merely about "feeding the poor childrenz", why are you inventing defeaters here? If it's so important, one would think you'd be all about clearing the way for the willing. I'm starting to think that you just want to see kids starve, you evil person, you.
 
#418
#418
Vol8188 said:
Lmfao “they have to serve me! How dare they simply give me the money (food stamps) to buy food and free food (food banks)! They have to also actively serve me!”

Huh?
Click to expand...
Now you're just posting nonsense. Kids eat at school. Those with parents who can't provide much aren't going to be making breakfast and lunches for their kids every day. I actually explained that I see that with kids in the weekends.
 
#424
#424
utvolpj said:
Now you're just posting nonsense. Kids eat at school. Those with parents who can't provide much aren't going to be making breakfast and lunches for their kids every day. I actually explained that I see that with kids in the weekends.
Click to expand...

It takes me less than a minute a day. If you refuse to feed your child I have no issue with the parents being charged with neglect.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TN-POSSUM and Orange_Crush
#425
#425
Orange_Crush said:
That's when the state needs to step in and take the kids. There comes a time when poverty isn't the excuse anymore.
Click to expand...
So instead of just buying them lunch worth a couple bucks the state needs to take over their lives? Is this about saving money or just control?
 
  • Like
Reactions: BernardKingGOAT
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top