Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

#851
#851
Vol8188 said:
Curious question, do you like insurance companies?

If not, why support forcing people to purchase their product?

That’s a really hard thing for me to square away about left wing ideology. “Insurance companies bad. ACA good. ACA forced people to purchase products from bad companies. Insurance profits are bad. ACA greatly increased insurance profits”

How does that all work
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You are making things up again.

Where do you see "left wing" stating insurance companies are bad? Insurance companies are staffed by both democrats and republicans .

Who decided insurance or any business profit is bad?

I'm retired Navy, ACA didn't force me to buy squat
 
#852
#852
swampfoxfan said:
Are you aware some people drive without insurance?
Multiple traffic tickets or Dui can make the cost of auto insurance unmanageable for some .
Much like being born with congenital heart disease can make heath insurance unmanageable for some
The affordable health care act solved so much, why do magas hate it?
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I want you to really think this through. In your mind we should force the entire country to buy a product that you yourself believe is a bad product from people most on your side of the isle believe to be bad people.

We should all buy that product because otherwise charities and possibly government will have to pay (they still do today) for the few who are born with serious health issues?

Can you make that make sense for me
 
#853
#853
Vol8188 said:
Did those people just die in the streets before the ACA? I don’t remember stepping over bodies on my way to school before the ACA
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They do in Jamaica, in America Healthcare providers are required to provide lifesaving care.

The ACA provides insurance coverage to keep magas from bearing the cost of that care
 
#854
#854
Vol8188 said:
I want you to really think this through. In your mind we should force the entire country to buy a product that you yourself believe is a bad product from people most on your side of the isle believe to be bad people.

We should all buy that product because otherwise charities and possibly government will have to pay (they still do today) for the few who are born with serious health issues?

Can you make that make sense for me
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Please do think this through. I DO NOT BELIEVE HEALTHCARE INSURANCE IS A BAD THING. Clear enough
 
#855
#855
swampfoxfan said:
You are making things up again.

Where do you see "left wing" stating insurance companies are bad? Insurance companies are staffed by both democrats and republicans .

Who decided insurance or any business profit is bad?

I'm retired Navy, ACA didn't force me to buy squat
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Bernie Sanders’ has been talking about the evils of the insurance industry for at least a decade now. The murder of insurance ceos has been praised by many on the left, with some journalists going as far as posting photos of other insurance CEOs.

“I wasn’t forced to buy insurance because I already had it!”….why would that matter here? Unless you’re just trying to waste time and talk in circles, your government funded insurance adds nothing to this conversation.

Many on the left have been upset about insurance company profits. The claim that you are unaware of that is more evidence that you’re trolling, wasting everyone’s time, and in no way interested in engaging honestly.
 
#856
#856
swampfoxfan said:
They do in Jamaica, in America Healthcare providers are required to provide lifesaving care.

The ACA provides insurance coverage to keep magas from bearing the cost of that care
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So we agree the ACA isn’t needed to save people with congenital heart disease? That’s almost progress.

Next, the notion that it helps people. Do you think health costs have increased or decreased post ACA? The obvious answer is increased, dramatically. So how did that help “to keep magas from bearing the cost of that care”?
 
#857
#857
Vol8188 said:
So we agree the ACA isn’t needed to save people with congenital heart disease? That’s almost progress.

Next, the notion that it helps people. Do you think health costs have increased or decreased post ACA? The obvious answer is increased, dramatically. So how did that help “to keep magas from bearing the cost of that care”?
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Not going to engage with your made up circle running anymore. Have a good day
 
#858
#858
Vol8188 said:
Lmao…is this a joke right now? You want sources for basic things you should know about American history?

1. Here’s a link for FDR and employer based health insurance being a result of his insane policies that prevented raises

www.chicagotribune.com

Employer-based health care was a wartime accident

As a Republican-controlled Congress struggles to make good on its promise to repeal the Affordable Care Act, House Speaker Paul Ryan is quietly pushing a revolutionary change in the way health care…
www.chicagotribune.com www.chicagotribune.com

2. Are you really asking me for a link that Obama forced people to buy health insurance? Seems you should know this given you were an adult when this happened.

www.vox.com

A requiem for the individual mandate

The least-loved part of Obamacare will soon be gone.
www.vox.com www.vox.com

Anything I missed that you need?
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Yes, absolutely. Where's the proof of your claim that FDR and Obama invented the policy for insurance companies to employ DELAY (in granting approval for necessary surgical procedures), DENY (approval for necessary surgical procedures), and DEFEND (these underhanded, breach of contract acts, and get away with it). You know darn well what the initial discussion is about by MAGA-cally do end run around the issue to divert, deny, and lie.

And you purposely distorted the fact ole Donnie told his disabled nephew, disabled people should just die. You turned it into Don murdering them himself, personally. you MAGA things truly are an alien species.
 
#860
#860
volinbham said:
nearly a half dozen (or 5 including the all powerful ambassador to Canada).

hundreds of people contributed to Project 2025
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Maybe. However, the Liarindent denies he knew anything about it, didn't support it and the usual male bovine excretion he spews from his mouth and all orifices.
 
#862
#862
WoodsmanVol said:
Yes, absolutely. Where's the proof of your claim that FDR and Obama invented the policy for insurance companies to employ DELAY (in granting approval for necessary surgical procedures), DENY (approval for necessary surgical procedures), and DEFEND (these underhanded, breach of contract acts, and get away with it). You know darn well what the initial discussion is about by MAGA-cally do end run around the issue to divert, deny, and lie.
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Yes, let me prove a thing I never claimed…

Those three specific terms were actually in no way tied to our initial conversation and were just random buzzwords you brought up, seemingly to show your support for the recent assassination of a healthcare CEO.

The actual initial conversation was you making a claim about something coming and it being related to project 2025. Can you please enlighten us all?

What is this super scary thing coming involving the disabled and project 2025? I don’t want to be caught off guard.
 
#863
#863
85SugarVol said:
I heard disabled Americans were going to be the first ones sent to the camps. Or they’ll just send the vans for them.
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Great job twisting the truth into deflecting falsehood, 85SugarVol. You creatures do such a fine job of that. Just like your Liarindent.
 
#864
#864
Vol8188 said:
Yes, let me prove a thing I never claimed…

Those three specific terms were actually in no way tied to our initial conversation and were just random buzzwords you brought up, seemingly to show your support for the recent assassination of a healthcare CEO.

The actual initial conversation was you making a claim about something coming and it being related to project 2025. Can you please enlighten us all?

What is this super scary thing coming involved the disabled and project 2025? I don’t want to be caught off guard.
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Bye MAGA liar. Was nice to see you still employing the tried and true MAGA tactic of divert, deny, and lie. You do it very well.
No wonder X (Twitter) is losing so many clients so fast. They want to be rid of you MAGA aliens. Poor Elon scrambling to shore up the thus far, 24 million exodus. Creaures like you are costing him lots of moola. Good job.

The wheels on the MAGA bus go round and round, round and round. Boy, that old nursery rhyme details the MAGA tactic perfectly. Divert, deny, and lie.


Bye, but keep spinning in the bog of willful ignorance, and preferred arrogance. The baytch, Ms. Karma, will arrive soon enough.
 
#871
#871
WoodsmanVol said:
Vol8188 drives a bus that's goes round, and round. round, and round. Played your game too often before. You don't want an answer, you just want to spin around in circles. Find another toy who is dense enough to play your game. Oh, yeah, where's your source about FDR and Obama inventing the health insurance tactic of killing patients after milking them of so-called premiums? Try that for your roundaboutism.
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Well, since you're attributing it to MAGA/Trump, the same need for source applies.
 
#873
#873
WoodsmanVol said:
Source? Source? Source? Source? Source? Source?
An article from a credible source shows Trump told his nephew the disabled should just die. But never mind, you MAGAs can't accept the truth if it was a poker shoved up your butts and pulled from your left nostril. No point in even trying to talk to your alien species. Good night.
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That article is unconfirmed hearsay.
 
#874
#874
Vol8188 said:
Bernie Sanders’ has been talking about the evils of the insurance industry for at least a decade now. The murder of insurance ceos has been praised by many on the left, with some journalists going as far as posting photos of other insurance CEOs.

“I wasn’t forced to buy insurance because I already had it!”….why would that matter here? Unless you’re just trying to waste time and talk in circles, your government funded insurance adds nothing to this conversation.

Many on the left have been upset about insurance company profits. The claim that you are unaware of that is more evidence that you’re trolling, wasting everyone’s time, and in no way interested in engaging honestly.
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The Dems demonized health insurance providers, or they'd never have been able to get ObamaCare passed. They did so by ignoring the basic concepts of math. (If the Insurance companies don't charge enough to cover payouts, they will go bankrupt.)
 
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