Department of Government Efficiency - DOGE

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WoodsmanVol said:
Hail, hail, the gang's all here! I knew I'd drag oyu things out for your usual pack tactic. I win again.
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You make unhinged claims. People point it out. You resort to insults and try to attack in such a way that you think people won't reply in the future, and you'll be free to post unhinged claims without the need to defend. Ironically, you do it by claiming to WANT us to answer. And the wheels on your unhinged bus keep going round and round. You are one strange cat.

(To the forum: Notice that he doesn't actually ANSWER the criticisms. He just attacks and insults in such a way that he hopes we won't answer next time. He somehow thinks that admitting to being a simple troll is a good thing. lol)
 
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swampfoxfan said:
Sometime you magas are confusing. No one was forced to buy anything due to the affordable care act. It certainly encourages buying insurance or you were fined . The fine would help offset the cost of providing free medical care yo those with no coverage. Isn't that a biggie on the Maga agenda, no free health care?
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that what we called "forced".

pay for insurance at a much higher rate than you were previously paying, or pay the same money as a fine. either way you are being forced to pay money.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
Are you aware some people drive without insurance?
Multiple traffic tickets or Dui can make the cost of auto insurance unmanageable for some .
Much like being born with congenital heart disease can make heath insurance unmanageable for some
The affordable health care act solved so much, why do magas hate it?
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It jacked up my costs about 3x. At the time I was just over the poverty line and it screwed me out of a lot of money that I really needed just scraping by.

It forced to pay for services I would never need, that weren't previously required. Woohoo as a male, OBGYN visits were now required to be part of the plan coverage.

I lost my doctor, even though Obama said it wouldn't happen.

It removed a bunch of options for me as a young, relatively, healthy person.

One of those options were plans that paid for preventative care or screenings for various diseases/issues that run in my family that I want to be tested for. Its really great that they won't pay for the relatively cheap test that will identify an issue early, allowing for a very simple procedure to fix; but will instead pay for the very expensive and life altering procedure if its not caught early and fixed.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
Are you aware some people drive without insurance?
Multiple traffic tickets or Dui can make the cost of auto insurance unmanageable for some .
Much like being born with congenital heart disease can make heath insurance unmanageable for some
The affordable health care act solved so much, why do magas hate it?
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I am well aware of that and it's against the law to do so in many states

The affordable healthcare act is neither affordable nor did it provide universal coverage. According the Bernie Sanders 80 million are either non insured or under insured. That's worse than in 2010
 
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LouderVol said:
It jacked up my costs about 3x. At the time I was just over the poverty line and it screwed me out of a lot of money that I really needed just scraping by.

It forced to pay for services I would never need, that weren't previously required. Woohoo as a male, OBGYN visits were now required to be part of the plan coverage.

I lost my doctor, even though Obama said it wouldn't happen.

It removed a bunch of options for me as a young, relatively, healthy person.

One of those options were plans that paid for preventative care or screenings for various diseases/issues that run in my family that I want to be tested for. Its really great that they won't pay for the relatively cheap test that will identify an issue early, allowing for a very simple procedure to fix; but will instead pay for the very expensive and life altering procedure if its not caught early and fixed.
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Thanks to a Trump executive order, young healthy people have another option, short term health plans. They are not required to be Obamacare compliant and can be underwritten. Far cheaper than an Obamacare plan
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You make unhinged claims. People point it out. You resort to insults and try to attack in such a way that you think people won't reply in the future, and you'll be free to post unhinged claims without the need to defend. Ironically, you do it by claiming to WANT us to answer. And the wheels on your unhinged bus keep going round and round. You are one strange cat.

(To the forum: Notice that he doesn't actually ANSWER the criticisms. He just attacks and insults in such a way that he hopes we won't answer next time. He somehow thinks that admitting to being a simple troll is a good thing. lol)
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Note to the forum, I learned the tactic from MAGAs. If it works for them, why not me?
 
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Sea Ray said:
Thanks to a Trump executive order, young healthy people have another option, short term health plans. They are not required to be Obamacare compliant and can be underwritten. Far cheaper than an Obamacare plan
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Yeah, that would have been great for me at the time.

Now its not an issue, but it took years and cost me about 25k extra over that time, controlling for inflation.

There is a reason a lot of Americans lost private insurance during that time, and I was darn near one of them.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Even if that were true, all you're doing is admitting to the group that you are what you claim to hate. You really don't think these things through, do you?
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Sure, I figure if I can't convert you from your MAGA ways, I might as well join in and do what you do. Great plan, isn't it?
 
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Vol8188 said:
Yes, let me prove a thing I never claimed…

Those three specific terms were actually in no way tied to our initial conversation and were just random buzzwords you brought up, seemingly to show your support for the recent assassination of a healthcare CEO.

The actual initial conversation was you making a claim about something coming and it being related to project 2025. Can you please enlighten us all?

What is this super scary thing coming involving the disabled and project 2025? I don’t want to be caught off guard.
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Solyent Green is disabled people.
 
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#891
It should be canceled because of it's design aesthetics alone.

Only 93 delivered since they were originally ordered in 2022.

 
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CagleMtnVol said:
It should be canceled because of it's design aesthetics alone.

Only 93 delivered since they wereoriginally ordered in 2022.

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Original New York Post article from late February 2021.

"Oshkosh Defense has been contracted to build between 50,000 and 165,000 of the new trucks over the next 10 years..."

 
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#893
it looks like some of those gold carts that get dressed up as a baseball helmet at baseball stadiums. I seem to remember the Lookouts having something that looked very similar to that.
 
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LouderVol said:
Yeah, that would have been great for me at the time.

Now its not an issue, but it took years and cost me about 25k extra over that time, controlling for inflation.

There is a reason a lot of Americans lost private insurance during that time, and I was darn near one of them.
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I went three or four years without insurance once Obamacare passed. The company I work for (very, very small) started up with an insurance plan in 2018ish, if I remember right. Before that, I decided not to even bother, and once my wife and I got married it was even less of a question. We are young and healthy, so we were eating all sorts of the costs of that mess.

For example, the plans that were offered to me in Virginia (Bronze to Platinum or whatever it was) were almost all identical, except for maybe a few hundred dollars each month. On my (at the time, 2015ish) $42K salary I could pay a highly affordable monthly premium of $1,200 to get a plan with a $6,500 deductible and 60% coinsurance after the deductible. That was some insurance!

I remember my parents telling me I needed to get insurance, then I showed them the options I had and they said "well, I guess your decision makes sense.".
 
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ButchPlz said:
I went three or four years without insurance once Obamacare passed. The company I work for (very, very small) started up with an insurance plan in 2018ish, if I remember right. Before that, I decided not to even bother, and once my wife and I got married it was even less of a question. We are young and healthy, so we were eating all sorts of the costs of that mess.

For example, the plans that were offered to me in Virginia (Bronze to Platinum or whatever it was) were almost all identical, except for maybe a few hundred dollars each month. On my (at the time, 2015ish) $42K salary I could pay a highly affordable monthly premium of $1,200 to get a plan with a $6,500 deductible and 60% coinsurance after the deductible. That was some insurance!

I remember my parents telling me I needed to get insurance, then I showed them the options I had and they said "well, I guess your decision makes sense.".
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my work always provided health insurance. They provided a flat amount to everyone that covered the lowest option they provided, if you wanted any upgrades you paid for that. I went from paying like 50 bucks out of pocket, to almost 300 bucks out of pocket a month thanks to Obamacare. and that was after my work increased their payments by like 200 bucks or more a month as well. but their contribution no longer covered even the lowest option.

I think when it first hit I was making about 40k, so an extra 3000 dollars a year gone was a LOT of money.

funny how swampfox won't even acknowledge these issues, or let us know if they are valid complaints or not.
 
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LouderVol said:
my work always provided health insurance. They provided a flat amount to everyone that covered the lowest option they provided, if you wanted any upgrades you paid for that. I went from paying like 50 bucks out of pocket, to almost 300 bucks out of pocket a month thanks to Obamacare. and that was after my work increased their payments by like 200 bucks or more a month as well. but their contribution no longer covered even the lowest option.

I think when it first hit I was making about 40k, so an extra 3000 dollars a year gone was a LOT of money.

funny how swampfox won't even acknowledge these issues, or let us know if they are valid complaints or not.
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I pay about $300/month out of pocket now for an incredible and very comprehensive plan that my company bought out of Alabama. The company covers the rest for us. It's nice.

We still do most of our regular healthcare in the nice private clinics when we do a yearly visit to Peru (since it is still cheaper and you actually spend significant time with a doctor, and usually one trained in the US) but for $3600/year I don't mind having that kind of plan, especially since we'll have kids soon.
 
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ButchPlz said:
I pay about $300/month out of pocket now for an incredible and very comprehensive plan that my company bought out of Alabama. The company covers the rest for us. It's nice.

We still do most of our healthcare in the nice private clinics when we do a yearly visit to Peru (since it is still cheaper) but for $3600/year I don't mind having that kind of plan, especially since we'll have kids soon.
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yeah, my new office has some different options and I found something better that fit me. It doesn't do a whole lot for the typical doctor visits or prescriptions because I only need the bi-yearly check ups, and just whenever I am sick. But it covers the catastrophic stuff better than other plans.

I am engaged now, haven't figured out what we are going to do going forward, so that may change.
 
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