Depth issues - why?

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VolFan4Life87 said:
This has probably already been hashed out on VN, so pardon the thread but I'm hoping some folks more knowledgeable than me can weigh in.

Why has UT had depth issues at seemingly every damn position for multiple years now. We have walk-ons in our two-deep rotation, what is that crap? Have we not been recruiting enough bodies to fill all positions or what?
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Fulmer's last 3 classes were bad when you look at actual contributions. Kiffin's sole signing class wasn't much better. The one he left that Dooley finished has been the only one in the past 6 or 7 years that has been as good on gameday as they were on NSD.

The short answer is that the recruiting evaluations and decisions have been marginal to poor. Many of the talented players UT has signed going back to Fulmer's last 3 classes have washed out for academics, behavior, or some other reason.

Dooley also left some holes in recruiting classes like the ones that have shown up this year at CB and WR. They'll show up worse next year so brace yourself.
 
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There was a thread started over the weekend where the OP did a ton of research on this subject. I'd link it but am Mobile. It was good.
 
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vol66 said:
Of our QB's, RB's, WR's, TE's, and DB's...would any of them start for Bama, LSU, UGA, SC, UF?
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Yes. Randolph and McNeil would both stand a good chance. Coleman could but maybe not as early as he did at UT. Either of the RB's could be in the starting rotation at USCe and probably UF... and maybe even be the 2nd back at Bama considering their struggle to find someone.

Downs is a good talent at TE who is still under-utilized.
 
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The short version-Late in Fulmers tenure, a lot of the four and five star recruits didn't pan out. Combine that with some subpar recruiting. Then kiffin takes over, several of Fulmers recruits transfer. Kiffin bolts almost all of Kiffins recruits bolt or get booted. Then to compound the problem, Dooley recruits many subpar players and WALA! Horrible depth.
 
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sjt18 said:
Yes. Randolph and McNeil would both stand a good chance. Coleman could but maybe not as early as he did at UT. Either of the RB's could be in the starting rotation at USCe and probably UF... and maybe even be the 2nd back at Bama considering their struggle to find someone.

Downs is a good talent at TE who is still under-utilized.
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Wut? In what universe has Bama struggled to find a backup RB?
 
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Volfan2012 said:
The fact that a couple walk ons and some freshmen were able to beat out older players explains the situation were in right now.
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However...some of the walk-ons are actually better than the current rostered scholarship players...our best RB may be Summerhill and I think he is a walk-on...he is fast and cuts well...but, though, he is from Alabama. :eek:hmy:
 
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sjt18 said:
Yes. Randolph and McNeil would both stand a good chance. Coleman could but maybe not as early as he did at UT. Either of the RB's could be in the starting rotation at USCe and probably UF... and maybe even be the 2nd back at Bama considering their struggle to find someone.

Downs is a good talent at TE who is still under-utilized.
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I love our RBs but USCe has 2 really good ones in wilds and Davis. Mike Davis is possibly the best RB in the SEC, just sayin. Bama does not have RB problems. Florida im not sure.
Lane could be a beast and I think he's close to breaking out, but just hasn't done it. Neal should move back to WR IMO. Even though sommerhill* played during trash time. He has the best rushing stats on the team. Move him or hill to 2nd string and lane to 1st.
 
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sjt18 said:
Yes. Randolph and McNeil would both stand a good chance. Coleman could but maybe not as early as he did at UT. Either of the RB's could be in the starting rotation at USCe and probably UF... and maybe even be the 2nd back at Bama considering their struggle to find someone.

Downs is a good talent at TE who is still under-utilized.
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Starting to think Josh Smith could play in a lot of systems too. The kid is just a player.
 
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When Oku is running for Arkansas State, Cam Clear is catching touchdowns for aTm, DeAnthony Arnett is playing for Michigan St, Davante Bourque disappears into obscurity Tyler Bray had rather be 3rd string qb for Kansas City Chiefs than play his senior year, Darrington Sentimore had rather go undrafted than play for us, and about 20 more examples!!!! I don't know why we don't have any depth in key places!!!! JMHO
 
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vol66 said:
That's fair, who else?

Even if there's a few, it's not enough to compete with the upper tier SEC teams.
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Randolph.

A.J. would fit nice into Saban's scheme and so would McCullers at NT.

Maggit could go to a litter of schools.

Our entire offensive line would start at ANY school.
 
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i personally don't think we really know if depth is a problem

we played 1 real game - and they blasted our starters so fast the subs didnt have a chance to get in

so depth is uncertain - the fact that we don't have speed on defense is unquestioned however
 
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sjt18 said:
The one in which no runner besides Yeldon has over 50 yds or 7 carries through 2 games.
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Yeldon's true backup, Drake, didn't play against VT because he was in the dog house. None of our backs, Yeldon included, ran well against the Hokies because our O-line sucked.

Drake averaged 7.1 ypc against A&M. He averaged 6.7 in 2012 as the 3rd stringer.

Fowler averaged 6.9 as the 3rd stringer in 2011 (he missed all but a game and a half in 2012).

Bama is more than fine at RB.
 
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bamawriter said:
Yeldon's true backup, Drake, didn't play against VT because he was in the dog house. None of our backs, Yeldon included, ran well against the Hokies because our O-line sucked.

Drake averaged 7.1 ypc against A&M. He averaged 6.7 in 2012 as the 3rd stringer.

Fowler averaged 6.9 as the 3rd stringer in 2011 (he missed all but a game and a half in 2012).

Bama is more than fine at RB.
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What about the fresh from fla?
 
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sjt18 said:
Yes. Randolph and McNeil would both stand a good chance. Coleman could but maybe not as early as he did at UT. Either of the RB's could be in the starting rotation at USCe and probably UF... and maybe even be the 2nd back at Bama considering their struggle to find someone.

Downs is a good talent at TE who is still under-utilized.
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Not sure about that. Mike Davis is either 2nd or 3rd in the SEC in rushing right now.
 
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SCvol333 said:
i personally don't think we really know if depth is a problem

we played 1 real game - and they blasted our starters so fast the subs didnt have a chance to get in

so depth is uncertain - the fact that we don't have speed on defense is unquestioned however
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I think we knew depth was going to be a problem 6 months ago.
 
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bamawriter said:
Yeldon's true backup, Drake, didn't play against VT because he was in the dog house. None of our backs, Yeldon included, ran well against the Hokies because our O-line sucked.

Drake averaged 7.1 ypc against A&M. He averaged 6.7 in 2012 as the 3rd stringer.

Fowler averaged 6.9 as the 3rd stringer in 2011 (he missed all but a game and a half in 2012).

Bama is more than fine at RB.
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Vol fans hate the Drake.
 
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GAVol said:
I think we knew depth was going to be a problem 6 months ago.
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not sure i agree there

our main problems are:

1) QB can't throw
2) QB can't run
3) no speed at LB
4) inability to rush the passer

3 and 4 were the same problems our D has had for a couple of years now so no big shock and has nothing to do with depth

we need better players not more of them - its not like we held oregon until the 3-4th quarter and then worn down

our starters just weren't even close to good enough to hang
 
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vol66 said:
Of our QB's, RB's, WR's, TE's, and DB's...would any of them start for Bama, LSU, UGA, SC, UF?
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might as well throw LB and DE in the mix too - i would say CB as opposed to DB though as our safeties do have some talent

that group's talent level is up there with our Oline
 
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