Desperate to chase his lost relevance

#57
#57
Septic said:
If the GOP wants to regain any modicum of respectability to the middle, they need to stop kissing his fat orange ass.

The middle is where elections are won.
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If you haven’t figured it out yet, it’s not kissing his ass as much as it is the enjoyment of watching him torment the liberal simps
 
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volfanhill said:
Bc he is massively hated. Not his policies.Him. It's why he lost the last time. Elections are about turnout. And he's proven to turn out the masses who hate him.
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If you think that the masses will turnout to vote for Joe again then you are delusional. Hell, I think it was a good percentage (enough to turn the election) that wouldn't have voted for him the last time if they had known about Hunters dirt.
 
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DC_Vol said:
I just think it’s important to remember that candidates considered “the middle” are the ones responsible with where we are today. The debt, the consolidated federal power, the size of the government. Almost all of it.
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The ones who got what you just described done, are called the election winners. You can be an ideologue or you can reconcile that the middle is where elections, as I said, are won.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
If you haven’t figured it out yet, it’s not kissing his ass as much as it is the enjoyment of watching him torment the liberal simps
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Well clearly, tormenting the "liberal simps" is good for America. It worked out well for him, didn't it?
 
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Septic said:
The ones who got what you just described done, are called the election winners. You can be an ideologue or you can reconcile that the middle is where elections, as I said, are won.
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I actually didn’t disagree with you. Just reminding everyone the winners are from the middle. And they are the ones responsible. Keep on doing it if you are pleased with it.

Maybe it was a harder concept to grasp than I thought. Or are you just looking to argue?
 
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DC_Vol said:
I actually didn’t disagree with you. Just reminding everyone the winners are from the middle. And they are the ones responsible. Keep on doing it if you are pleased with it.

Maybe it was a harder concept to grasp than I thought. Or are you just looking to argue?
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I'm not sure what concept you believe wasn't grasped.

Do you believe we'd be better off see-sawing back and forth from the extremes? I certainly don't.
 
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Septic said:
Well clearly, tormenting the "liberal simps" is good for America. It worked out well for him, didn't it?
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He never had a chance with the liberal simp media. To say otherwise…. Like Luther would… is being oblivious. I’d like a classy president, but one that openly and firmly confronts liberal lunacy
 
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lawgator1 said:
Oh my God, the irony !!!

Have you ever seen a former POTUS go after his VP like this? Unreal.
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It may seem crazy to some but Trump is not about to let Pence gain a bigger foothold in the party and potentially run in 2024. He considers that he basically laid down and rolled over when it mattered at best. I dont think anyone has ever claimed that Trump is a forgive and forget Christian or anything.

If Trump doesnt run for 2024 (and he will decide publicly at least after Nov), then he is going to make sure everyone knows he is kingmaker to whoever does run. And he is not going to let that be Pence.

Right now at least, the far and away candidate is Desantis, and it is not even close. Many Trump voters might even prefer him to Trump himself. I certainly would rather risk his foreign policy unknown to get what I see as a very capable domestic political operation. He understands the gov machine. Granted, the fed is a whole nother level but still.

I am grateful for all Trump has done and he was the right man for the time, someone who was finally willing to try to take a wrecking ball to the establishment. He did not succeed as well as we would have hoped and many of those errors were self-inflicted - but few have fought against so much. Saying that, I think Trump now serves the movement he leads better as an ideological leader rather than a logistical one.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
He never had a chance with the liberal simp media. To say otherwise…. Like Luther would… is being oblivious. I’d like a classy president, but one that openly and firmly confronts liberal lunacy
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Good. I agree.

Can you elaborate on what a "simp" media is?
You're using that term in a odd vernacular.
 
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Septic said:
I'm not sure what concept you believe wasn't grasped.

Do you believe we'd be better off see-sawing back and forth from the extremes? I certainly don't.
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You felt the need to remind me again that the elections are won “the middle”, a point I never disagreed with. So I logically assumed you didn’t grasp the point I was making.

But to answer your question, I have no illusion things will change. The fed will continue to grow until the system can no longer sustain itself.

I’m open to trying something different if the option is available. I suppose it all rests in how you define extreme. What may seem extreme to you might be common sense to me.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump is so thin skinned he can take NO criticism. His ego is so fragile he just blasts anyone who dares question him.

He cannot be allowed to get anywhere near the WH ever again. Including on the tour.
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Trump is classless and needs to fade off into the sunset. Now your turn with Biden.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump is so thin skinned he can take NO criticism. His ego is so fragile he just blasts anyone who dares question him.

He cannot be allowed to get anywhere near the WH ever again. Including on the tour.
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He's still better than kamala or Susan Rice leading your crap party
 
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