Details about Obama's role

#76
#76
It would easily break the world record for JPGs and herp derp in one thread.
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#77
#77
Can we find a topic that gsvol and volfanjustin disagree on? I really want to see them debate something.
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That thread would cause a rupture in the fabrics of space/time and quite possibly result in the implosion of the universe.

I kid, fellas. But it does have epicness written all over it.
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#78
#78
It would be like the opposite of an unstoppable force hitting an immovable object.
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#83
#83
I consider most on here, pro obama.

If dumb posts were an arcade game on this board, the top ten high scores would all read VFJ. You keep outdoing yourself.

This board is fiscally conservative and socially moderate-liberal. I'd imagine the poll numbers on this board concerning how good of a job the POTUS is doing would be along the lines of the latest Rasmussen polls determining the same thing.

Now, if it's anything the VN political board rags on, it's a fool. You're being put on the same level with uber far right nutjobs like gs and joevol, and you're failing to realize it.
 
#84
#84
I suppose I could be considered leaning left, but only if the primary example of "right" is gsvol/joevol/vfj. I'm ambivalent toward abortion, could care less if gays want to marry, and I'm agnostic. On most other issues I'm pretty conservative. Leftist d-bags like LG like to call me a racist and David Duke-type righties like gsvol will call me a pudding-headed moron.

Wherever that middle-ground Sabbanochio staked out is located, I'm happy to occupy a spot right of center.
 
#85
#85
Just heard Holder say that it is still his and the President's intentions to close Gitmo, says it will make us safer.
 
#88
#88
Just heard Holder say that it is still his and the President's intentions to close Gitmo, says it will make us safer.

President George W. Bush, along with Donald Rumsfeld, had the same intentions: close the holding facility at Gitmo as soon as is operationally possible.

You'll only find those statements in their autobiographies, though...
 
#89
#89
President George W. Bush, along with Donald Rumsfeld, had the same intentions: close the holding facility at Gitmo as soon as is operationally possible.

You'll only find those statements in their autobiographies, though...

Big difference in that and what this admin is saying
 
#90
#90
Big difference in that and what this admin is saying

There is a big difference between with the current administration is saying and what they are doing.

This is called politics; President Obama is not the first president to engage in this practice.
 
#91
#91
There is a big difference between with the current administration is saying and what they are doing.

This is called politics; President Obama is not the first president to engage in this practice.

I understand they want it closed and they are trying to appeal to their far-left base.

I also am relieved it will not be closed because even this group of clowns realize it's not possible.
 
#95
#95
What would you do with them? Bring them to the states where you would have to give them rights and a trial? Release them back to the battle fields?

So, now the United States is a supreme deity who bestows certain rights to certain peoples and keeps them from others? Rights are inalienable and are not "given" by men; they certainly can be protected or violated by men, though.

The fact that there are so many that have been held at Gitmo without being convicted by a tribunal or by a court is an abortion of the entire concept regarding the rights of man. These men should have been subjected to a tribunal or trial at some point in the past ten years. There is plenty of blame to go around for this delay and there are few solutions for the conundrum we are in regarding the detainees being held indefinitely at Gitmo.
 
#96
#96
#97
#97
justin's got it right: Bush said he wanted to close Gitmo because it was the right thing to do, Obama said he wanted to close Gitmo so he could appease the far-left libtards.
 
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