Dez Bryant-like Suspension for Pearl?

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Emmert discusses subject of coaches lying to NCAA - CBSSports.com

"NCAA president Mark Emmert said Tuesday that he believes coaches who lie to NCAA investigators should be subject to the same type of punishment given to student-athletes who lie to NCAA investigators.

'I certainly believe [the same guidelines] should apply, of course," Emmert said. "[They should apply] at least as much [as they apply to student-athletes].'"
 
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Did Dez, on his own will, go back to the NCAA and confess? I am hoping, not certain, that that will act as a mitigating factor when they're considering the punishment.
 
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I'm keeping my fingers crossed, but the longer this drags on the more pessimistic about the whole affair I become
 
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Did Dez, on his own will, go back to the NCAA and confess? I am hoping, not certain, that that will act as a mitigating factor when they're considering the punishment.
No but I do believe he was tearful in his apology.
 
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Did Dez, after realizing he was caught in a lie, go back to the NCAA and confess? I am hoping, not certain, that that will act as a mitigating factor when they're considering the punishment.
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Emmert discusses subject of coaches lying to NCAA - CBSSports.com

"NCAA president Mark Emmert said Tuesday that he believes coaches who lie to NCAA investigators should be subject to the same type of punishment given to student-athletes who lie to NCAA investigators.

'I certainly believe [the same guidelines] should apply, of course," Emmert said. "[They should apply] at least as much [as they apply to student-athletes].'"

Not even close!! Dez lied about to much contact with Neon Dion!! What he lied about got him in as much trouble as lying!! Pearl will not get that treatment!!
 
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Did Dez, on his own will, go back to the NCAA and confess? I am hoping, not certain, that that will act as a mitigating factor when they're considering the punishment.

It doesn't appear so, as he categorically denied all inquiries as to his relationship with Sanders until the announced punishment. Only later did he attempt to come clean with investigators, ostensibly, in hopes of mitigating the damage of his earlier denials.

While some will choose to believe that BP's situation is completely different - insofar as he came forth and admitted having previously lied - it's actually not.

Like Dez, Pearl didn't come clean as a matter of conscience, but rather, only came forward after learning that those others whom he attempted to coerce into corroborating his lies had failed to do so.

Essentially, both only confessed once they knew that they were caught - the only difference being that Dez waited for the official sanctions to be announced - and Pearl (having seen the writing on the wall) did not.

From the article, I believe that there are some important - albeit cryptically presented - points to greatly heed (when thinking about BP's punishment):

Tennessee has docked Pearl's pay and banned him from recruiting off campus for a year, and the SEC has suspended Pearl for eight league games despite the fact that the school still hasn't received a notice of allegations from the NCAA. A notice of allegations is expected to arrive no later than January. Among other things, Emmert made it clear in a back-and-forth hypothetical about possible punishments that the NCAA's Committee on Infractions could suspend a coach (in this case, Pearl) from coaching over and above what any league (in this case, the SEC) might do. Furthermore, Emmert did not dispute the notion that a suspension from coaching in the NCAA tournament even if the coach's team is allowed to participate could serve as a form of punishment for coaches who violate rules.

"That would be a really interesting outcome," Emmert said.
If I am not mistaken, none of the recruits who were involved in the now infamous BBQ eventually signed with Tennessee, meaning, the "team" itself was neither directly involved in the transgressions (that was BP, alone), nor have they in any way benefitted from it (as those players are elsewhere). While the team can (and typically is) punished for the transgressions of a single player / coach / booster.....a strong case could be made for an exception here, as each of the two major violations (e.g. the BBQ, subsequent lies) are uniquely, singularly and self-admittedly (thanks to BP's confession, albeit tear-stained) on Pearl's shoulders, alone.

Perhaps I am misguided in my belief that the 'AA isn't as inept and bungling as many believe them to be. However, I believe that they will not only attempt to provide a suitable punishment for the violation which occurred, but also, one which is most appropriately placed upon the greatest source of the original offense, and which reduces the damage caused to those uninvolved and / or innocent others, wherever possible or practicable.

While I don't believe that it will be the only punishment imposed (I think that you will see some scholarship reductions, too, and possibly more restrictions on recruiting as well), I do believe that suspending Pearl from coaching in one (or two) 'AA tourneys would fit these objectives quite nicely, and Emmert's comments suggest the same.

And don't for a second believe that the 'AA won't enjoy (finally) being able to put to rest the whole, "It's always the team / program / players / fans who are punished - and not the coach who did it" allegation to rest, once and for all, either. They will undoubtedly relish it.

While careful not to say too much, at the very least - he tipped his hand.
 
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I do not want Pearl gone, but if it happens, who would be a good replacement.....an assistant or someone else??? names?
 
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I do not want Pearl gone, but if it happens, who would be a good replacement.....an assistant or someone else??? names?
Bert Bertlecamp seems to know a lot about ball.... lets say TJ takes over and wins a title do we have a Fulmer/majors situation?
 
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Not even close!! Dez lied about to much contact with Neon Dion!! What he lied about got him in as much trouble as lying!! Pearl will not get that treatment!!

Wrong.

When Bryant was questioned about his meeting with Sanders (jogging at a track) and then accompanying him to his home for dinner (with his girlfriend in tow, and neither ate) - he lied and said that it never happened.

Later he was suspended for the season. Why?

Well, it's hard to argue that either the impromptu meeting, subsequent texting or even going to Sanders home for dinner lead to the penalties - because the 'AA themselves said that NONE OF THOSE ACTIONS WERE VIOLATIONS OF ANY BYLAW(S), NOR THREATENED HIS ELIGIBILITY OR AMATEUR STATUS.

So, he was suspended for lying - and that's it - because that's the only reason that remains.

And if you don't take my word for it, here's how Dez later described it on FB:

“This is why I’m suspended. … I went to Deion sanders house … and the NCAA found out. … They asked me if I had been to his house I told them no. … I thought it was a violation … but it wasn’t … so I told them I went to his house. … I lied to them and I shouldn’t have … and I’m not suspended for the rest of the season. … I’m sorry OSU.!”


I don't choose to condone Pearl's actions, nor do I feel that they should (or can) be either minimized or explained away. In fact, it's the height of irony that it is this exact same fanbase who so often lauds Dooley's insistence on only accepting "high-character" players - but who are then so readily willing to defend another coach so inarguably incapable of meeting them, himself. I take it to mean that his defenders must feel a closeness to him, being of such equally inadequate character, themselves (no doubt resulting from poor parenting).

However, for those misguided apologists amongst you who do feel such a need, I'd stop trying to insist that his case is entirely unlike Bryant's, because it isn't. I would also stop attempting to coax your inner child to sleep by soothing his heaving sobs with the nonsensical assumption that the acts he committed are of primary importance, and not his lying about them (i.e. "It's just a BBQ, and some extra calls - big deal!"), as to what the 'AA will ultimately decide to do.

You might be in for an equally rude and abrupt awakening.
 
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Coach Pearl has proven that he's sincerely sorry about what happened, and he has already been punished severely.

Yet numerous people with various agendas insist on dragging his name through the mud and pretty much throwing our basketball program under the bus and Coach Pearl into the cattle car, figuratively speaking. It's utterly disgusting.
 
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Coach Pearl has proven that he's sincerely sorry about what happened, and he has already been punished severely.

Yet numerous people with various agendas insist on dragging his name through the mud and pretty much throwing our basketball program under the bus and Coach Pearl into the cattle car, figuratively speaking. It's utterly disgusting.

Because he said he was sorry?
 
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Because he said he was sorry?

And he cried. Don't forget the cried, too.

Out of true remorse for the pain which he had caused this, his beloved University.

You can practically hear the 'AA patting their hands clean of punishing him any further, upon seeing them, too. An emotional lot, those investigators.
 
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Coach Pearl has proven that he's sincerely sorry about what happened, and he has already been punished severely.

Yet numerous people with various agendas insist on dragging his name through the mud and pretty much throwing our basketball program under the bus and Coach Pearl into the cattle car, figuratively speaking. It's utterly disgusting.

Some may have an agenda for Pearl for what he did early in his career, but honestly it's just the way the media is, they harp on anything negative and then just keep talking and talking until it's over. 6 months after the punishment has been served (NCAA), see who talks about it then, they will move on to the next idiot who messes up.
 
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Did Dez, on his own will, go back to the NCAA and confess? I am hoping, not certain, that that will act as a mitigating factor when they're considering the punishment.

Also, its worth noting the Bryant wasnt sure if what he did (Hanging out with Neon Deion) was actually an NCAA violation. He was suspended simply for lying to the NCAA. Pearl not only lied, but tried to cover it up, then only went back to the NCAA when they already knew everything. I wouldnt glorify him for giving himself up.
 
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Apparently this article stemmed from a dinner that Emmert had with 8 or so writers from around the country. Apparently Gary Parrish was one of these writers and I heard him discussing it on his radio show today.

He echoed much of what was covered in this article, especially in relation to Bryant's suspension. He mentioned that he had gotten the impression from Tennessee (i.e. Pearl, Hamilton, etc.) that they were confident that the worst may be over and that Tennessee's imposed penalties along with the 8 game suspension from Slive would go a long way in the end.

He then went on to say that his feeling after listening to Emmert talking about holding coaches accountable (not mentioning this case in particular) that things were going to end up being much worse that those penalties already levied. He said that he got the feeling that the NCAA would basically hold the stance that the way to remedy this issue would be for Pearl to be terminated, but since the 'AA can't terminate Pearl, they would make sanctions on Pearl harsh enough that UT may have no choice but to terminate him.

From that, I imagined he was elaborating that the sanctions would be in the realm of a 1-2 season suspension.

He also said that the letter of allegations is not expected for AT LEAST another month, and that this thing will play out at least through the summer. My worry for the program is that if it drags out that long and UT is forced to terminate Pearl bc sanctions are so heavy, it will be really late in the game to get a suitable replacement.
 
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My worry for the program is that if it drags out that long and UT is forced to terminate Pearl bc sanctions are so heavy, it will be really late in the game to get a suitable replacement.
Only if UT hasn't already been doing their due diligence. If Hamilton doesn't already have people working the back channels to line up a quality coach if the 'AA nukes Pearl, he's rankly incompetent.
 
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Hat, my opinion is that this won't hit the university hard. Pearl will get punished, but UT could avoid all problems by firing him - and hiring someone of equal status. Do you think the NCAA will come down on the university itself?
 

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