Dez Bryant-like Suspension for Pearl?

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hatvol96 said:
Only if UT hasn't already been doing their due diligence. If Hamilton doesn't already have people working the back channels to line up a quality coach if the 'AA nukes Pearl, he's rankly incompetent.
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I guess my concern is that Hamilton will not necessarily do the due diligence on the belief that any remaining penalties will not be bad enough for him to have to fire Pearl.

Hat, in the event that all of this came to fruition and a change needed to be made, who are some names that would be a good fit here and are realistic gets?
 
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JuicyBrucey said:
Coach Pearl has proven that he's sincerely sorry about what happened, and he has already been punished severely.

Yet numerous people with various agendas insist on dragging his name through the mud and pretty much throwing our basketball program under the bus and Coach Pearl into the cattle car, figuratively speaking. It's utterly disgusting.
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Agreed. Much overblown on the tube. Scandal gives the analysts something interesting to talk about during a lull in the game.
 
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Shot0fClarity said:
Hat, my opinion is that this won't hit the university hard. Pearl will get punished, but UT could avoid all problems by firing him - and hiring someone of equal status. Do you think the NCAA will come down on the university itself?
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I wouldn't think so. However, they don't have to directly penalize the university for the sanctions they deliver to have a detrimental effect on UT.
 
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GoVols2003 said:
I guess my concern is that Hamilton will not necessarily do the due diligence on the belief that any remaining penalties will not be bad enough for him to have to fire Pearl.

Hat, in the event that all of this came to fruition and a change needed to be made, who are some names that would be a good fit here and are realistic gets?
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Gregg Marshall, Lon Kruger, Chris Mooney, and Tim Jankovich.
 
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Tenacious D said:
It doesn't appear so, as he categorically denied all inquiries as to his relationship with Sanders until the announced punishment. Only later did he attempt to come clean with investigators, ostensibly, in hopes of mitigating the damage of his earlier denials.

While some will choose to believe that BP's situation is completely different - insofar as he came forth and admitted having previously lied - it's actually not.

Like Dez, Pearl didn't come clean as a matter of conscience, but rather, only came forward after learning that those others whom he attempted to coerce into corroborating his lies had failed to do so.

Essentially, both only confessed once they knew that they were caught - the only difference being that Dez waited for the official sanctions to be announced - and Pearl (having seen the writing on the wall) did not.

From the article, I believe that there are some important - albeit cryptically presented - points to greatly heed (when thinking about BP's punishment):


If I am not mistaken, none of the recruits who were involved in the now infamous BBQ eventually signed with Tennessee, meaning, the "team" itself was neither directly involved in the transgressions (that was BP, alone), nor have they in any way benefitted from it (as those players are elsewhere). While the team can (and typically is) punished for the transgressions of a single player / coach / booster.....a strong case could be made for an exception here, as each of the two major violations (e.g. the BBQ, subsequent lies) are uniquely, singularly and self-admittedly (thanks to BP's confession, albeit tear-stained) on Pearl's shoulders, alone.

Perhaps I am misguided in my belief that the 'AA isn't as inept and bungling as many believe them to be. However, I believe that they will not only attempt to provide a suitable punishment for the violation which occurred, but also, one which is most appropriately placed upon the greatest source of the original offense, and which reduces the damage caused to those uninvolved and / or innocent others, wherever possible or practicable.

While I don't believe that it will be the only punishment imposed (I think that you will see some scholarship reductions, too, and possibly more restrictions on recruiting as well), I do believe that suspending Pearl from coaching in one (or two) 'AA tourneys would fit these objectives quite nicely, and Emmert's comments suggest the same.

And don't for a second believe that the 'AA won't enjoy (finally) being able to put to rest the whole, "It's always the team / program / players / fans who are punished - and not the coach who did it" allegation to rest, once and for all, either. They will undoubtedly relish it.

While careful not to say too much, at the very least - he tipped his hand.
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Mcrae signed with UT.
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The more I hear, the more I think that sanctions on the university/team will be minimal, while Pearl will be hit hard with the sanctions .
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hatvol96 said:
However, they don't have to directly penalize the university for the sanctions they deliver to have a detrimental effect on UT.
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What type of sanctions would you be talking here? If Pearl is gone, how could sanctions they deliver hurt UT without actually penalizing them?
 
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tvolsfan said:
What type of sanctions would you be talking here? If Pearl is gone, how could sanctions they deliver hurt UT without actually penalizing them?
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If Pearl has to leave, he'll be going as the most successful basketball coach in program history. While I don't like the guy, that's a substantial penalty to the university and the athletic department.
 
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hatvol96 said:
If Pearl has to leave, he'll be going as the most successful basketball coach in program history. While I don't like the guy, that's a substantial penalty to the university and the athletic department.
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Stand up post.
Thought I'd quote it so it doesn't disappear.
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#36
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Any idea at all on when the verdict is coming down? I keep eharing December, but it's half over as is....
 
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tigervol9802 said:
Any idea at all on when the verdict is coming down? I keep eharing December, but it's half over as is....
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That's just the Notice of Allegations. Pearl will go in front of the Infractions Commitee in February and the final verdict will likely be handed down June.
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hatvol96 said:
If Pearl has to leave, he'll be going as the most successful basketball coach in program history. While I don't like the guy, that's a substantial penalty to the university and the athletic department.
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That makes sense, but if we managed to hire another good coach, would there still be a detrimental effect lingering on?
 
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tvolsfan said:
That makes sense, but if we managed to hire another good coach, would there still be a detrimental effect lingering on?
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There will be some lingering recruiting effect, just because of the amount of time the program will have been in a holding pattern waiting to see what happens. Hiring a quality coach would certainly mitigate the damage.
 
#41
#41
Thanks. I remember in one of your editions of the Trap you said you thought UT would likely have to terminate Pearl. Do you still think that's the case? It would be upsetting, because I really feel like he would be able to do big things if he maintained the style of play that served us well over the last year or so.
 
#42
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tigervol9802 said:
Any idea at all on when the verdict is coming down? I keep eharing December, but it's half over as is....
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My theory on the timing is that it will come out in the new year during the media blitz leading up to the NC game. This way the NCAA looks as though its competent and can police its members. Just a guess......
 
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hatvol96 said:
Yes, especially after reading Mark Emmert's comments.
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Hat, do you really think UT would fire Pearl even with a year suspension. They seem to be completely supportive of keeping him regardless of the outcome of the investigation. Of course if he were suspended more than a year, there would be no choice but to terminate him.
 
#46
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BasketvolsFan said:
Hat, do you really think UT would fire Pearl even with a year suspension. They seem to be completely supportive of keeping him regardless of the outcome of the investigation. Of course if he were suspended more than a year, there would be no choice but to terminate him.
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Notice that Emmert's comments indicated that coaches would be held to at least the same standards as players and that the idea of barring a coach from the NCAA Tournament is one he finds interesting. Unless I completely misread Emmert's comments, and the columns created by the guys who were there indicate my take is accurate, a one year suspension is the best case scenario.
 
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GoVols2003 said:
He echoed much of what was covered in this article, especially in relation to Bryant's suspension. He mentioned that he had gotten the impression from Tennessee (i.e. Pearl, Hamilton, etc.) that they were confident that the worst may be over and that Tennessee's imposed penalties along with the 8 game suspension from Slive would go a long way in the end.

He then went on to say that his feeling after listening to Emmert talking about holding coaches accountable (not mentioning this case in particular) that things were going to end up being much worse that those penalties already levied.
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As they should be.
 
#48
#48
If that is the case, I see no alternative but to fire Pearl. Our program would take such a serious hit and recruiting would reach a point where no elite player would come, we couldn't afford to keep Pearl regardless of his previous success with the program. His actions could actually completely erase all the good things he has achieved for the program. Still completely unbelievable that he would put himself and the program in this situation.
 
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Shot0fClarity said:
Hat, my opinion is that this won't hit the university hard. Pearl will get punished, but UT could avoid all problems by firing him - and hiring someone of equal status. Do you think the NCAA will come down on the university itself?
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Because the NCAA has a long-established history of punishing the coach and not the program? :blink:
 
#50
#50
There have been few instances like this where it is completely open season on the coach because of his actions.
 
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