Did Fulmer fire Sanders midseason?

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GAVol said:
The best job he ever did was in 2004. I'm convinced there was something going on in 2005 that we still don't know about.
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Graduation of Cedric Houston, Schaeffer kicked out of school, Ainge pilled out, Gerald Riggs injured. The arrival of Urban and the return of Spurrier. Pretty much a perfect storm for disaster.
 
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Many bad years of tennessee football has a way of dulling the memories but fulmer was never one to throw coaches under the bus. In fact his problem was quite the opposite, blind loyalty to guys who no longer got the job done. Had he been looking to scapegoat sanders there were many chances to do it prior to '05. That period of tennessee football was almost as frustrating as now. We had almost as much raw talent as the mid 90's yet never could put it all together.
 
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BAVol said:
Many bad years of tennessee football has a way of dulling the memories but fulmer was never one to throw coaches under the bus. In fact his problem was quite the opposite, blind loyalty to guys who no longer got the job done. Had he been looking to scapegoat sanders there were many chances to do it prior to '05. That period of tennessee football was almost as frustrating as now. We had almost as much raw talent as the mid 90's yet never could put it all together.
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Exactly. Fulmer had this incredible loyalty to assistants who either lacked the drive or skill to move up to a higher level, even as they were failing in their primary job.

I came up with this thread a few years ago: http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/96886-fulmer-lack-coaching-tree.html

That was so long ago that I had a post in there that pointed out what a great coach Jerry Sandusky was, without having to qualify it with anything else. Paterno had longtime assistants who didn't move on, but they were still developing a lot of talent and producing All-Americans. Fulmer's longtime assistants couldn't make that claim.
 
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Imo what Mack brown has done these last 4 years is worse than fuller's last 4 because of the lack of talent Texas faces and the immense talent they've had to work with. Texas fans really should be ready to see him go
 
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It doesn't really matter these days because we have a new staff and new hope on the hill. Sanders is now Jimbo's problem at FSU and Fulmer is still Krispy Kremes problem anywhere...let it go.
 
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BAVol said:
Many bad years of tennessee football has a way of dulling the memories but fulmer was never one to throw coaches under the bus. In fact his problem was quite the opposite, blind loyalty to guys who no longer got the job done. Had he been looking to scapegoat sanders there were many chances to do it prior to '05. That period of tennessee football was almost as frustrating as now. We had almost as much raw talent as the mid 90's yet never could put it all together.
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A lot more truth to this than the other stuff.
 
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Gramps said:
Sanders was Fulmers first scapegoat.
Fulmer was the de facto Offensive Coordinator all along anyway since David Cutcliffe resigned to be the Ole Miss head coach. He would not turn Sanders loose to do his thing.
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that is not accurate gramps. Fulmer did not call plays while the head coach.. ever..
 
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chattavol420 said:
Imo what Mack brown has done these last 4 years is worse than fuller's last 4 because of the lack of talent Texas faces and the immense talent they've had to work with. Texas fans really should be ready to see him go
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texas just might offer saban $10m. :crazy:
 
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Ohio Vol said:
Exactly. Fulmer had this incredible loyalty to assistants who either lacked the drive or skill to move up to a higher level, even as they were failing in their primary job.

I came up with this thread a few years ago: http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/96886-fulmer-lack-coaching-tree.html

That was so long ago that I had a post in there that pointed out what a great coach Jerry Sandusky was, without having to qualify it with anything else. Paterno had longtime assistants who didn't move on, but they were still developing a lot of talent and producing All-Americans. Fulmer's longtime assistants couldn't make that claim.
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I agree on the offensive side of the ball. Coach Chavis developed a ton of talent and sent many to the league.
 
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Sanders resignation ends long tenure with Vols - College Football - ESPN

Tennessee (3-4) is averaging 16.1 points and 315 yards of offense per game. They haven't averaged 30 points a year in this pass-happy generation of college football since 2001. Sanders isn't happy with the lack of offense, either. But the problems have begun to affect his wife and daughters and he decided that he would be better off trying to coach somewhere else.

There was some real crappy stuff said about Randy and it became way too personal but it was coming from the fans/press not Fulmer. If anything Fulmer was loyal to a fault but like GA I believe something else was going that we know nothing about.

If anything Fulmer was loyal to a fault.
 
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jjay2518 said:
Why was Clawson's offense the polar opposite here compared to anywhere else he's coached?
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the players did not buy into it.. kind of like last years defensive players not buying into the 3-4. especially none of the QBs. hard to implement any offense if QBs struggle with it.

some players did lobby with Fulmer to take over offense but he would not do that. they continued to try and run Clawsens offense and didn't revert back to the Cutcliffe offense. Does anyone think that??
 
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