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Jxn Vol said:
Go ahead and and give them the trophy Fauchi. You can suck a sack of dix.
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You're getting way too upset when I'm just screwing around.

This decision is nonsense. I can't come up with any good reason why the NCAA or the county suddenly decided to test asymptomatic, vaccinated players. It's even weirder given that they let NC State play the previous game despite the first kid already having tested positive. What, exactly, changed after that game that made them feel the need to start testing everyone else?

The only explanation I can come up with is that they got word that NC State was dishonest about who was vaccinated. But to come up with any explanation assumes that the PTB put even a moment's thought into their procedures.
 
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bamawriter said:
You're getting way too upset when I'm just screwing around.

This decision is nonsense. I can't come up with any good reason why the NCAA or the county suddenly decided to test asymptomatic, vaccinated players. It's even weirder given that they let NC State play the previous game despite the first kid already having tested positive. What, exactly, changed after that game that made them feel the need to start testing everyone else?

The only explanation I can come up with is that they got word that NC State was dishonest about who was vaccinated. But to come up with any explanation assumes that the PTB put even a moment's thought into their procedures.
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I’m sick of the stupidity. And you are adjacent to the stupidity based on your comments.
 
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wmcovol said:
Because NCState had 1 player test positive for Covid, did the ncaa pull all nonvaccinated players off the field? If true, that’s total ********.
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The players and the coaches have made their decisions. Sometimes bad decisions result in actions which they don't like. They need to learn that one lives with their decisions and not to blame other people for their mistakes.
 
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bamawriter said:
I've never seen any actual evidence that corroborates that claim, so there is nothing for me to trust.

I'm cofident that certain cases of terminal disease have counted as Covid deaths; health officials have admitted as much. It's often difficult to determine the extent to which a comorbidity impacted the result. For instance, my grandfather had advanced Alzheimer's. It was going to kill him, but the prognosis gave him another 2 or 3 years. Covid got into his care facility and he was the 5th of 11 total deaths. He had a terminal disease for which there is no cure, but he was still alive before he caught Covid, so how should his death be classified?

But, to the extent that the numbers are inflated by comorbid cases, we also know that some states undercounted their cases. Andrew Cuomo had a book to sell and didn't want anyone to know how many old people he'd murdered, so his team fudged the numbers.
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VOLINVONORE said:
The players and the coaches have made their decisions. Sometimes bad decisions result in action which they don't like. They need to learn that one one lives with their decisions and don't blame other people for their mistakes.
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Breathing is a decision?
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
Taking a vaccine or not taking a vaccine is a decision. In this case, it definitely can affect breathing/living when/if they get Covid.
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You’re also ignoring completely the potential side effects that are being hid from the American people such as damage to heart & other vital organs that might not be 99% curable. Thousands have died from these vaccines but they ignore that.
No one knows the long term effects on young women taking it on their ability to have healthy children in the future. That’s a risk entirely too great for me to support vaccines for young people & children.

Those with underlying health conditions such as smokers, heart disease, obesity, diabetes should get the vaccines. Of course, they’re conditions have nothing to do with their being selfish, right? Facts are 80% of all health problems are lifestyle related.

Certain segments of the government exposed our most vulnerable population the most to this virus. The death count soared immediately. If those “leaders” had protected the most vulnerable the outcome could have been far better but it may not have accomplished the political goal of this mess.
 
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wmcovol said:
You’re also ignoring completely the potential side effects that are being hid from the American people such as damage to heart & other vital organs that might not be 99% curable. Thousands have died from these vaccines but they ignore that.
No one knows the long term effects on young women taking it on their ability to have healthy children in the future. That’s a risk entirely too great for me to support vaccines for young people & children.

Those with underlying health conditions such as smokers, heart disease, obesity, diabetes should get the vaccines. Of course, they’re conditions have nothing to do with their being selfish, right? Facts are 80% of all health problems are lifestyle related.

Certain segments of the government exposed our most vulnerable population the most to this virus. The death count soared immediately. If those “leaders” had protected the most vulnerable the outcome could have been far better but it may not have accomplished the political goal of this mess.
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Political goal? What in the hell are you talking about? We are talking about a novel virus that started a global Pandemic which has killed millions in the World, over 600,00 in the US. I am amazed that we have accomplished as much to control it, despite the fact that so many people have refused to take advantage of the most effective vaccine ever created. One has to realize that we still have the opportunity to save lives and suffering if more people would take the vaccine. Those who refuse are the ones will end up suffering the most.
 
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BilboTN said:
Yeah, God forbid a person make a decision for themselves to not be a guinea pig for big pharma. Since these "vaccines" aren't approved by the FDA, I applaud the players for making their own decisions instead of being pressured into it.
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The FDA gave Moderna, Pfizer, and JJ EUAs. The scientific rigor and burden of proof that is required to obtain an EUA is heavy. Not sure what your point is but to spread misinformation...
 
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Matt2496 said:
Just to demonstrate the absurdity of this, young people in that age group have less than a .1% chance of dying from COVID.

Clearly, they are trying to make an example out of them. Effectively saying “see, here’s what happens if you don’t get the vaccine, you might not win a championship”.
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You do realize that death is not the only health metric worth tracking? I would hope you also realize that a decision to to get vaccinated affects others and not just yourself. But yeah that’s what the NCAA is doing... making an example out of players that choose not to get vaccinated... 😂. GTFOH
 
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bamawriter said:
Vaccines tend to speed up the process and do so much more safely. Reaching herd immunity to polio the old fashioned way would have been really unpleasant.
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I guess they shouldnt have done all their testing and used the first vaccine available right? Why even bother testing at all? It's called a vaccine so it must be safe.
 
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VOLnVANDYland said:
You do realize that death is not the only health metric worth tracking? I would hope you also realize that a decision to to get vaccinated affects others and not just yourself. But yeah that’s what the NCAA is doing... making an example out of players that choose not to get vaccinated... 😂. GTFOH
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It may not be the only metric but it is the primary metric worth tracking. Pandemics are known for how many they kill. The overall death rate of COVID is less than 1%. For the aforementioned age demographic, it's less than .1%.

You know, you're right. It's so comforting knowing that the NCAA truly has the best wishes of grandma and obese people at heart. Them pulling NC state out of the college world series most certainly did great wonders for those demographics cause there are lots of obese and old people on these teams. Saving grandma one unvaccinated baseball team at a time I suppose. This really has nothing to do with making an example out of them but the NCAA's genuine concern.
 
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LouderVol said:
I guess they shouldnt have done all their testing and used the first vaccine available right? Why even bother testing at all? It's called a vaccine so it must be safe.
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Are you saying that they haven't tested the current vaccines?
 
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NEO said:
So you just dodged.

Congrats!

Now explain how players already vaccinated got the virus. Seems your infallible vaccination is very fallible.
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I don't believe they did. There is something about this story that makes absolutely no sense, even by NCAA standards.
 
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Interesting that we never hear about folks that died after getting the vaccine. There are 3 that I know of in West TN that were under 40 with no noted health issues. One was a doctor.

Placing the vaccine on a pedestal without long term data is irresponsible and quite frankly stupid. Folks that should know better have succumbed to the fear.
 
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