Did you like Pres. Bush or not?

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VOLS INC. said:
Yeah and i also understand how that voting works. It's a crock. half the time these politicians don't know what they're voting for or on and definitely not what affect it is going to have. Major issues that cause a public outcry like health-care are carefully dissected other than that when it comes to 99% of the crap that gets voted on, i bet if you asked any politician, any, they couldn't tell you off the top of their head what they voted for and why. I'm not going to eat obamas lunch for that nor would i McCains or any republicans. Just bad government structure.
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If he did not know what he was voting for than he is more of an idiot than I thought, that arguement really doesn't fly. He and everyone in govt has to be held accountable for his or her votes. Their votes are the best way to evaluate their stance on the issues.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Ok so now you have me intrigued and i am just dying to know how you would fix this mess. Since it's so easy and all
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tax cuts, allow large companies like GM to fail and enter into a real bankruptcy filing, stop bending over backwards for labor unions, avoid disastrous "climate change" treaties, tax cuts, and tax cuts
 
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MG1968 said:
tax cuts, allow large companies like GM to fail and enter into a real bankruptcy filing, stop bending over backwards for labor unions, avoid disastrous "climate change" treaties, tax cuts, and tax cuts
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oh i see get back to the true republican way of thinking. If you give the wealthy business owners tax cuts than it will cause a trickle down affect, create more jobs, employ more people. Yeah unfortunanly all that happens when you give these multi-billion dollar business owners a taxx break. They just keep the extra money and live an even more lavish lifestyle. Im not gonna lie i don't have all the answers but i think that way of thinking is why the richest 1% of americans possess more wealth than
the combined wealth of the bottom 90%
 
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VOLS INC. said:
oh i see get back to the true republican way of thinking. If you give the wealthy business owners tax cuts than it will cause a trickle down affect, create more jobs, employ more people. Yeah unfortunanly all that happens when you give these multi-billion dollar business owners a taxx break. They just keep the extra money and live an even more lavish lifestyle. Im not gonna lie i don't have all the answers but i think that way of thinking is the richest 1% of americans possess more wealth than
the combined wealth of the bottom 90%
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I can name at least three times in US history when tax cuts spurred economic growth. Kennedy, Reagan, and Bush 43.

name one time "bottom up" economics worked. Name one country that has prospered with top marginal rates approaching 60%.

go ahead, try.
 
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Russ Beaton is a socialist idiot. And if he's not a socialist, he's a Keynesian, which is almost as bad.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
oh i see get back to the true republican way of thinking. If you give the wealthy business owners tax cuts than it will cause a trickle down affect, create more jobs, employ more people. Yeah unfortunanly all that happens when you give these multi-billion dollar business owners a taxx break. They just keep the extra money and live an even more lavish lifestyle. Im not gonna lie i don't have all the answers but i think that way of thinking is why the richest 1% of americans possess more wealth than
the combined wealth of the bottom 90%
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The normal falsehoods always told by the left. First of all corporations should not be taxed at all, they are not people. If you cut or eliminate taxes on businesses the companies will hire employees and/or give raises to employees. First of all I am not rich, I am middle class. But if the rich have more money it helps us all. They buy houses, boats, clothes, go out to eat. These actions alone help keep the people employeed. Has a poor person ever created a single job?
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Bush was a train wreck. No fiscal responsibility whatsoever. He's like his successor in that regard. Bush was so bad that federalized healthcare has become a real possibility.

The media hammers the guy over foreign policy, but it was his strength. Our pacifist, enlightened media just can't stand the fact that the world is populated by greedy, self interested folks in power andcthat leadership on that stage requires some bravado.

Bush was also a victim of a supportive congress. For Washington to be effective, we need gridlock to some degree. Most of our fiscal responsibility comes via no votes in congress. Bush had none.

Finally, as bad as Bush was, Gore and Kerry would have been unfathomably worse.
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. . . and then there was how every time he spoke, you felt like a parent watching your kid perform in a school play.
 
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MG1968 said:
Russ Beaton is a socialist idiot. And if he's not a socialist, he's a Keynesian, which is almost as bad.
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wow. big surprise you responded that way.did you even read the article. You know the problem with extreme socialism and extreme capitalism is that they are too extreme.nonetheless it matters not because obama will get re elected because the republican party will once again fail to produce a good candidate and we will see if obama's policies work. I am far from a socialist or hardcore democrat. i just think we should give the man a chance. If all decisions end up hurting this country the way bush's did i guess ill be eating crow and remembering the great days of the clinton administration. He might of gotten some he** in the oval office but he sure could run a country.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
wow. big surprise you responded that way.did you even read the article. You know the problem with extreme socialism and extreme capitalism is that they are too extreme.nonetheless it matters not because obama will get re elected because the republican part will once again fail to produce a good candidate and we will see if obama's policies work. I am far from a socialist or hardcore democrat. i just think we should give the man a chance. If all decisions end up hurting this country the way bush's did i guess ill be eating crow and remembering the great days of the clinton administration. He might of gotten some he** in the oval office but he sure could run a country.
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yeah, I read the article, and Mr. Beaton gives a laundry list of Progressive talking points, but offers nothing in the way of actual evidence to back up his claim that tax cuts hurt the economy.

btw, I have read the Constitution. I know that taxation is necessary, but only for the 18 enumerated powers outlined in Article I Section 8. The so-called "necessary and proper" clause applies only to those enumerated powers.

Clinton was a one-term wonder boy if the GOP doesn't split the government in 1994. BPV is dead on when he said that a large part of Bush's problem was a GOP led congress that got too happy with spending money that wasn't theirs.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
wow. big surprise you responded that way.did you even read the article. You know the problem with extreme socialism and extreme capitalism is that they are too extreme.nonetheless it matters not because obama will get re elected because the republican part will once again fail to produce a good candidate and we will see if obama's policies work. I am far from a socialist or hardcore democrat. i just think we should give the man a chance. If all decisions end up hurting this country the way bush's did i guess ill be eating crow and remembering the great days of the clinton administration. He might of gotten some he** in the oval office but he sure could run a country.
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The great days of Clinton? I don't recall any. Hussein has been in office for almost a year. His policies don't work, they have been tried many times and socialism fails everytime. First example of his failed policies, when he took office unemployment was about 6 or 7%, in order to pass his stimulus package he said if we do nothing unemployment will reach 8%. Wow, we did pass it and its 10.2%. I recall Emanuel saying never let a crisis go to waste, they used the bad economy to pay off their radical left wing groups and to gain more control over us.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
Ok so now you have me intrigued and i am just dying to know how you would fix this mess. Since it's so easy and all
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I didn't say it was easy, nor do I believe it a function of the government.

You can bet your ass that I wouldn't have pulled off a stimulus package, I wouldn't even remotely consider more federalization of the healthcare system and I would damn sure be trying to figure out how to make the world a better place more small and midsize business owners. Those are the folks employing Americans.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
nonetheless it matters not because obama will get re elected because the republican party will once again fail to produce a good candidate and we will see if obama's policies work. I am far from a socialist or hardcore democrat. i just think we should give the man a chance. If all decisions end up hurting this country the way bush's did i guess ill be eating crow
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so you're a moderate but want to give Obama's policies a chance? Not sure you really understand the word moderate if that's the case. If his plans are implemented we will be digging out from under this huge gov't for years and I'm not sure we could ever get out.

The only people that will vote for the man a second time are those who were snowed into doing it once already. We all need to hope someone with some common sense can move into the WH in the near future or we're all in trouble
 
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utvolpj said:
so you're a moderate but want to give Obama's policies a chance? Not sure you really understand the word moderate if that's the case. If his plans are implemented we will be digging out from under this huge gov't for years and I'm not sure we could ever get out.

The only people that will vote for the man a second time are those who were snowed into doing it once already. We all need to hope someone with some common sense can move into the WH in the near future or we're all in trouble
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these same statements were echoed when bush was up for re-election too
 
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this thread has gone on long enough.

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