Diego Pavia granted another year of eligibility

[Freak]

Vandy QB Pavia granted injunction, can play in '25

A federal judge in Tennessee granted an injunction Wednesday that allows Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia to pursue another year of eligibility and could represent another significant blow to the NCAA's ability to enforce its own rules.

www.espn.com

Sounds like he wants some money too!

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Great
We get to hear the gush fest about Dora’s play pal for another year.

 

[OrangeInKy]

Great
We get to hear the gush fest about Dora’s play pal for another year.

Look at the other side, We get to put him on the ground again. Over and over.

 

[Firebirdparts]

This decision kind of makes it sound like you could play college ball forever.

 

[Volfan1000]

Great
We get to hear the gush fest about Dora’s play pal for another year.

We will send Diego to another defeat in Knoxville next season.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

This decision kind of makes it sound like you could play college ball forever.

Yep. The logical next step is someone who can't make it in the NFL but can get a decent NIL, say a QB like Tebow, sues because "the NCAA is limiting his earning potential" by saying he's out of eligibility. As a matter of fact, I'd think Pavia has very limited chances at his size in the NFL so he may sue again next year.

 

[ENGRVOL]

Vandy QB Pavia granted injunction, can play in '25

A federal judge in Tennessee granted an injunction Wednesday that allows Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia to pursue another year of eligibility and could represent another significant blow to the NCAA's ability to enforce its own rules.

www.espn.com

Sounds like he wants some money too!

lol vandy will not win in a bidding war. He is gone.

I know that Auburn signed Arnold but if I was Freeze I would sign this guy to avoid any chance of losing to him for the 4th year in a row.

 

[CAVPUT]

Wasn't his appeal based loosely on his time in Juco shouldn't count? We get a player who plays something like 5 snaps too many, and I'd bet the farm his appeal is denied. How can Pavia's appeal be justified?

 

[feathersax]

We will send Diego to another defeat in Knoxville next season.

Yep. Multiple body slams in Neyland Stadium next season for the mouthy little commode-door.

 

[hog88]

Wasn't his appeal based loosely on his time in Juco shouldn't count? We get a player who plays something like 5 snaps too many, and I'd bet the farm his appeal is denied. How can Pavia's appeal be justified?

They used the fact that prep school and junior hockey doesn’t count against eligibility so Jr college shouldn’t. He’ll probably win in the end.

 

[Dudleys87]

This decision kind of makes it sound like you could play college ball forever.

I thought the same thing. I a little creative wording and you can play forever.

 

[VolsSince78]

Wondering if Miles Kitselman has any interest in playing another season in college?

He’s listed on UT’s roster as playing 3 games in 2021 at a Kansas JUCO, then 2 seasons at Bama, and this year for the Vols. He may be planning to try the NFL now, regardless of how the Diego Unchained court decision played out.

If Kitselman hasn’t already clarified, maybe a Vol reporter could ask a coach or Kitselman about his plans.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Wondering if Miles Kitselman has any interest in playing another season in college?

He’s listed on UT’s roster as playing 3 games in 2021 at a Kansas JUCO, then 2 seasons at Bama, and this year for the Vols. He may be planning to try the NFL now, regardless of how the Diego Unchained court decision played out.

If Kitselman hasn’t already clarified, maybe a Vol reporter could ask a coach or Kitselman about his plans.

Miles looks like an NFL tight end to me. Go get paid while you can.

 

[NighthawkVol]

Wondering if Miles Kitselman has any interest in playing another season in college?

He’s listed on UT’s roster as playing 3 games in 2021 at a Kansas JUCO, then 2 seasons at Bama, and this year for the Vols. He may be planning to try the NFL now, regardless of how the Diego Unchained court decision played out.

If Kitselman hasn’t already clarified, maybe a Vol reporter could ask a coach or Kitselman about his plans.

Yep. And this also gives Larry Johnson an additiona year of eligibility.

 

[WillisWG]

Wasn't his appeal based loosely on his time in Juco shouldn't count? We get a player who plays something like 5 snaps too many, and I'd bet the farm his appeal is denied. How can Pavia's appeal be justified?

They argued that the eligibility rule that counts junior college seasons toward an athlete’s four years of eligibility constituted an unlawful restraint on his ability to earn NIL compensation, even though JUCO can earn NIL.

Kinda opens the door for all JUCO guys

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

They argued that the eligibility rule that counts junior college seasons toward an athlete’s four years of eligibility constituted an unlawful restraint on his ability to earn NIL compensation, even though JUCO can earn NIL.

Kinda opens the door for all JUCO guys

In some states high school can earn NIL so that's not the test, I think. They considered that JUCO is like high school, not under NCAA control, so it doesn't count under NCAA eligibility.

In that, not so much in football but basketball, European pro players who never went to college and might be 30+ could potentially enroll in NCAA schools to play because those European leagues aren't under NCAA control.

 

[chadch72]

Here is the new plan. Recruit an OL. Have them attend Juco that runs similar system and have them bulk up for two years in their S&C program. Then transfer to UT with full eligibility.

 

[WillisWG]

In some states high school can earn NIL so that's not the test, I think. They considered that JUCO is like high school, not under NCAA control, so it doesn't count under NCAA eligibility.

In that, not so much in football but basketball, European pro players who never went to college and might be 30+ could potentially enroll in NCAA schools to play because those European leagues aren't under NCAA control.

NIL was part of the test, so I see it as no NIL (labor market), no case. 'those decisions were grounded in a pre-NIL world.” He added rules in those cases were “designed to keep commercial interests out of college sports” whereas in an NIL world, college athletes are unambiguously engaged in commercial transactions with the NCAA’s blessing.

Campbell also reasoned that, based on a review of Pavia’s evidence, it appears the “challenged eligibility rules harm competition.” The judge noted that former JUCO players lose the chance to enjoy the same amount of time in the NCAA D-1 labor market compared to players who only attend D-1 schools. That means former JUCO players lose out on “competitive advantages and NIL compensation” especially since D-1 offers “significant advantages over junior college football.” Campbell highlighted “more exposure, potentially better competition and coaching, and financial advantages due to the NIL opportunities disproportionately offered to Division I athletes” as key advantages.

So no JUCO player has played in a comparable NIL market as D1 players, it is that simply. If JUCO playing time doesn't count against eligible is fine with me.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

NIL was part of the test, so I see it as no NIL (labor market), no case. 'those decisions were grounded in a pre-NIL world.” He added rules in those cases were “designed to keep commercial interests out of college sports” whereas in an NIL world, college athletes are unambiguously engaged in commercial transactions with the NCAA’s blessing.

Campbell also reasoned that, based on a review of Pavia’s evidence, it appears the “challenged eligibility rules harm competition.” The judge noted that former JUCO players lose the chance to enjoy the same amount of time in the NCAA D-1 labor market compared to players who only attend D-1 schools. That means former JUCO players lose out on “competitive advantages and NIL compensation” especially since D-1 offers “significant advantages over junior college football.” Campbell highlighted “more exposure, potentially better competition and coaching, and financial advantages due to the NIL opportunities disproportionately offered to Division I athletes” as key advantages.

So no JUCO player has played in a comparable NIL market as D1 players, it is that simply. If JUCO playing time doesn't count against eligible is fine with me.

My thought is toward the Europeans. When older guys start to enroll in college to play even though they have pro experience, it will be bizarre.

I grew up watching the college only US Olympic basketball team playing against Soviets and others who were essentially pro players. We may see the reverse now as those players come to college when they are older for a little NIL money.

 

[hog88]

My thought is toward the Europeans. When older guys start to enroll in college to play even though they have pro experience, it will be bizarre.

I grew up watching the college only US Olympic basketball team playing against Soviets and others who were essentially pro players. We may see the reverse now as those players come to college when they are older for a little NIL money.

I think the NCAA can maintain the exclusion of "pro athletes". NIL is technically not a pay for play so once you have gotten paid to play I think the NCAA is within it's rights to deny eligibility.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I think the NCAA can maintain the exclusion of "pro athletes". NIL is technically not a pay for play so once you have gotten paid to play I think the NCAA is within it's rights to deny eligibility.

True, those those rules are bendy.

Jackson Ross played pro "Australian football" before coming to punt for UT. That game is closer to rugby so I suppose it falls under an exemption.

 

[Volfan76]

I still have trouble wrapping my mind around the mentality of the NCAA. I don't see how they didn't see this coming. Their unwillingness to be reasonable has opened the door for players to challenge any and every rule they come up with. Any judge in America now has a precedent to overturn anything that they deem unfair now. They have really dug their own grave.

 

[butchna]

Boon to junior colleges who had been fading in this new era of portals. Its last saving grace was as a last ditch option for non-qualifiers and/or barely recruited development talent. Now they’re finishing schools for better athletes who may have played out of position in high school. Expect the occasional four star level athlete to slum a year imo.

 

[LittleCat]

Even more of a negative for high schoolers. Why would a team take a chance on a lower rated high schooler that they know will take time to develop when they can go get a 1 or 2 year juco who still has 4 years of eligibility?

 

[WillisWG]

Even more of a negative for high schoolers. Why would a team take a chance on a lower rated high schooler that they know will take time to develop when they can go get a 1 or 2 year juco who still has 4 years of eligibility?

Not a bad take