Difference between a good Defense and a Great Defense.

#27
#27
DaddyChad said:
I’m still a little concerned by how our DBs play. Not the result but the fact they never even get their head around to try to locate the ball.
Click to expand...
You should read the threads from last time CWM was our DB coach.
 
#30
#30
MOOOOONEY said:
I understand that some you are frustrated that the secondary didn’t have an interception and gave up 100 yards in the air.

I also understand that that the same folks upset with the secondary giving up 100 yards passing played high school (or lower level) football for a coach who ran a double wing or wing T that didn’t have 100 yards passing in a season.

This 2023 and some of you are so 1960. It’s very hard in today’s college football to hold a team under 150 yards in the pass game.
Click to expand...
Again. Results were fine. My only gripe was the fact the DBs still do not get their heads around. It’s early though, hoping we finally get that skill down this year. Hard to gripe about anything on the starting defense today.
 
  • Like
Reactions: orangebloodgmc
#31
#31
lifeisdeep said:
Maybe those of you born ten minutes ago would do well to learn the difference between defending a bottom-tier ACC team and the SEC teams that our secondary will soon be facing. Here’s a hint: it’s not a small difference.
Click to expand...

You mad bruh?

The defense did what they wanted to today. Continually pressure the QB with front 4, stuff the run, and not give up a big play all while basically playing a vanilla scheme.
 
  • Like
Reactions: -GiveHim6-, Vol in Buckeye Land and onevol74
#33
#33
jonnon111 said:
You should read the threads from last time CWM was our DB coach.
Click to expand...
Don’t have to read the threads I lived that. Martinez has gotten a lot of guys to the league that’s not really arguable. That said both here and Georgia he wore out his welcome with the fans with how he coached the corners.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jonnon111
#35
#35
Rocky Top T said:
We will see about the defense later. Virginia was not good on offense
Click to expand...
Keep doubting our guys upfront! We are only going to get better there!!!! I said before the season started and I will say it again. Garner is building and developing players. West and Pearce both played well, they are only going to get better. GBO
 
  • Like
Reactions: walkenvol, Vol in Buckeye Land, MemphisVol77 and 1 other person
#36
#36
Woodlawn VOL said:
Keep doubting our guys upfront! We are only going to get better there!!!! I said before the season started and I will say it again. Garner is building and developing players. West and Pearce both played well, they are only going to get better. GBO
Click to expand...
Ain't worried about d line, secondary is my concern
 
#38
#38
NATHAN05 said:
This.......I get most teams are pass happy and are going to get completions and yards, it's the head around that makes no sense and I can't help but think it's taught because NO ONE seems to do it. There were INTs to be had if we got our heads around
Click to expand...
And if that’s the case, what is the benefit of doing that?
 
#42
#42
cherokeeeVOL said:
Only concern I have is our defensive backs still not turning for the ball.
Click to expand...
I thought one of the commentators brought this up as well, wondering "if that's the way they are coached" ?! If I'm not mistaken a defensive quality control coach was brought in during the offseason, and that group is clearly the "weak linc" on the defense from a talent and performance perspective, and that's directly at Martinez' feet. If they don't improve drastically, I'd say he's gone.
 
#44
#44
Woodlawn VOL said:
Keep doubting our guys upfront! We are only going to get better there!!!! I said before the season started and I will say it again. Garner is building and developing players. West and Pearce both played well, they are only going to get better. GBO
Click to expand...
Pearce is fast and athletic - he is going to have a big year.
 
  • Like
Reactions: CedarHillVol, #1HomeGrownUTVOL, Big Al Orange and 1 other person
#45
#45
901 Orange said:
Yes its definitely taught. It cracks me up every time someone says "why won't he get his head turned around". It's actually a technique that alot of DB coaches are using. I think Hadden had 2PBU's today doing it. They're teaching them to play through the WR's hands. It's got some pros and cons just like every other technique.
Click to expand...
Seems like a lot of interceptions are a result of a DB getting help that a QB doesn’t recognize. I wonder how many interceptions you really miss by emphasizing the PBU over the INT.
 
  • Like
Reactions: cherokeeeVOL
#46
#46
MOOOOONEY said:
Last year after the opener I was critical of the lack of sacks, QB pressure, and 3rd down defense vs Ball State, but what a difference a year makes.

The front 4 controlled this game from the onset. They stuffed the run all game (except for 1 drive) and continually pressured Virginia in the pass game.

Sacks:

Vs Ball State - 0
Vs Virginia - 4

3rd down defense:

Vs Ball State - 36%
Vs Virginia - 28%

Total defense:

Vs Ball State - 343 yards
Vs Virginia - 201 yards

I really like this group of linebackers. This may be the most talented group of linebackers since the early 2000’s.

The secondary looked much improved (of course constant pressure from the front 4 helps)

Kudos to Tim Banks and the defensive staff. After year 1 I didn’t think they would or could bring in the players to turn the defense around but over the past 2 years they’ve been able to bring in some very talented players both from the high school ranks and the portal and develop some of the older players on the roster into contributors. They have put themselves in a position to earn a big payday this year.

If the defense continues to jell and gets a little better each week then we beat Georgia at home to win the East.

Go Vols!
Click to expand...
Hard to say considering it was Virginia. They certainly looked better. I think that drive that you mentioned was largely our 3rd string DL. I could be wrong.
 
  • Like
Reactions: walkenvol and orangebloodgmc
#47
#47
MOOOOONEY said:
I understand that some you are frustrated that the secondary didn’t have an interception and gave up 100 yards in the air.

I also understand that that the same folks upset with the secondary giving up 100 yards passing played high school (or lower level) football for a coach who ran a double wing or wing T that didn’t have 100 yards passing in a season.

This 2023 and some of you are so 1960. It’s very hard in today’s college football to hold a team under 150 yards in the pass game.
Click to expand...
My like is conditional. Yeah many of us are from the past. However, bad technique and poor understanding of what they are or are not seeing and understanding these thing makes for poor to average play.
 
#48
#48
901 Orange said:
Yes its definitely taught. It cracks me up every time someone says "why won't he get his head turned around". It's actually a technique that alot of DB coaches are using. I think Hadden had 2PBU's today doing it. They're teaching them to play through the WR's hands. It's got some pros and cons just like every other technique.
Click to expand...

I do say it out loud even though I know it is a taught technique. I am not even as worried about how it affects the lack of interceptions. What is more important, keeping your eye on the ball or keeping an eye on the receiver? I’d like to think both, but I understand this technique. What worries me the most is I think it is susceptible to pass interference penalties. Past games have proven this true. Maybe better athletes will be able to use this technique without getting a penalty.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Big Al Orange
#50
#50
HalfullVol said:
Fewer INT opportunities when the QB is sacked or running for his life and then knocked out of the game.
C’mon man
Be better
Click to expand...
Wrong
C’mon man
Be better
Most who have actually played football would say getting pressure on the QB increases the chance of INTs
The defense overall was impressive. DBs are definitely the weakest unit of it. They did have some good PBUs but there were INTs there to be had.
 
  • Like
Reactions: orangebloodgmc
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top