Discussion of gay rights, religion, abortion...oh yeah, and Pete Rose

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T-TownVol said:
the question that i answered is as far as i went back in the thread, i did not read your situation, we have been foster parents in the system and are now adoptive parents, i know every situation is different, i will go back and read the whole thread
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The government in Ohio told my wife and I that our house did not meet the square footage requirement to adopt.

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i am against the whole gay thing but i think pretty soon they will be able to get married.everything is changing and we have to be ready for it whether we like it or not.i mean if i was 20 years old back in the 1960's and someone told me one day we would have a black president and gays will be able to marry i would laugh. now we do have a black president and more then likely gay marriage will be coming.
 
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T-TownVol said:
my brush is from 5 years in the "system" thank you, i know that you think your job is to stimulate the thread, but that is ignorance
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Not at all....... we tried to adopt and was not allowed due to the government formula in Ohio and I know a lesbian couple who love their foster kids more than their own lives.

Not all gays are evil and are going to turn foster kids into gays.
 
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Dustin4Vols said:
i am against the whole gay thing but i think pretty soon they will be able to get married.everything is changing and we have to be ready for it whether we like it or not.i mean if i was 20 years old back in the 1960's and someone told me one day we would have a black president and gays will be able to marry i would laugh. now we do have a black president and more then likely gay marriage will be coming.
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This reminds me of something that really grinds my gears.

Here in Florida, Gay marriage is illegal, and has been for some time. Last November there was an amendment up for vote called the "Marriage Protection Act" which its supporters played off as a gay marriage vote when it, in fact had nothing to do with gay marriage whatsoever. What the amendment did do is make the only way for someone to receive benefits from their partner if they were married. I have several friends who have children and live together, but are not married. For their own personal reasons, they chose not to wed. Now their girlfriends and children can't use the better benefits of the male partner (in this case).

What gets me about this is that most of the people I talked to that voted for this bill (which subsequently passed) were under the impression that it was a gay marriage vote, and it's supporters allowed it to pass in this manner without bringing to light what it really entailed.

I really think the misdirection of the advertisement of this amendment was dispicable, and hurt many many families in Florida, simply because they don't have a certificate that says they're a family.
 
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Volingatorland said:
This reminds me of something that really grinds my gears.

Here in Florida, Gay marriage is illegal, and has been for some time. Last November there was an amendment up for vote called the "Marriage Protection Act" which its supporters played off as a gay marriage vote when it, in fact had nothing to do with gay marriage whatsoever. What the amendment did do is make the only way for someone to receive benefits from their partner if they were married. I have several friends who have children and live together, but are not married. For their own personal reasons, they chose not to wed. Now their girlfriends and children can't use the better benefits of the male partner (in this case).

What gets me about this is that most of the people I talked to that voted for this bill (which subsequently passed) were under the impression that it was a gay marriage vote, and it's supporters allowed it to pass in this manner without bringing to light what it really entailed.

I really think the misdirection of the advertisement of this amendment was dispicable, and hurt many many families in Florida, simply because they don't have a certificate that says they're a family.
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We had something similar in Ohio.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
Not at all....... we tried to adopt and was not allowed due to the government formula in Ohio and I know a lesbian couple who love their foster kids more than their own lives.

Not all gays are evil and are going to turn foster kids into gays.
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have you been through the 40 hours of training that it takes to be approved to foster or adopt?
there are "standards" that have to be met, it is a nobel thing you want to do but it is a government agency and the rules, even though most are crap, will not be overlooked
 
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T-TownVol said:
because they were trying to force the lifestyle on him and the other 4 boys in there home
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That is wrong. and I will agree that in this specific situation, the foster parents should have not been involved. Trying to force a sexual orientation on someone is like putting a square peg in a round hole, it just doesn't fit without great force, and I would consider that abuse. I don't see this as the case in most gay adoptions though, as it is my belief that the gay and lesbian community are the strongest believers in "be who you are, not what society says you should be"

It's just as bad as the son of the man that comes out, and is forced to "be" straight.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
The same thing I asked 85, you would doom these two boys to go back with their parents, why?
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I did not say that now did I, once again, i have not read the particular situation you are referring to, i just responded to the question about gays

not trying to skip out, but i have to go make dinner
 
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T-TownVol said:
have you been through the 40 hours of training that it takes to be approved to foster or adopt?
there are "standards" that have to be met, it is a nobel thing you want to do but it is a government agency and the rules, even though most are crap, will not be overlooked
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We got kicked out during the preliminary screen when they are creating the dossier.

We appealed and we were denied again.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
We got kicked out during the preliminary screen when they are creating the dossier.

We appealed and we were denied again.
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like i said, most of the regs have nothing to do with providing a good home, they were written by the same people that run our public schools
my advise is to stay involved with the children and make sure that they do not go back to an abusive or dangerous situation
 
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T-TownVol said:
like i said, most of the regs have nothing to do with providing a good home, they were written by the same people that run our public schools
my advise is to stay involved with the children and make sure that they do not go back to an abusive or dangerous situation
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It was twin girls and they got a good home.

:)
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
It was twin girls and they got a good home.

:)
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That is good

We tryed to adopt three black brothers ages 4,6,& 8 and we were denied because their case worker was black and said she would not place them in a white home, that was three years ago and the boys are still in foster care, splain that?
 
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