Do our players respect CCM?

#27
#27
VolGee4 said:
As Sparty said, I don't believe effort is the problem. Fans like to throw around the word "quit" too often. It is easy to throw around, and fans will say it because they don't want to admit that their team is simply not as good as the other. The late season runs by CCM's teams seem to show that they play for him. I said back then that they seemed like they would run through a wall for him, especially the first year where we were below or at .500 into January. I agree with others that some strategy and scheme appears to be lacking to add to my belief that the team, while talented, has limitations. CCM has to be able to scheme to those limitations.
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Spot on, completely agree with this.
 
#28
#28
Chris4Vols22 said:
There's plenty to like minus us not playing up to expectations this year. Not saying he's a great coach or that we will get a Final Four under him, but the way people act around here, you'd think we're 6-10 right now.
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With the talent we have on the court right now, it feels like 6-10.
 
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#29
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checkerboards09 said:
Im just gonna say what's on everyones mind.....why the hell did BP have to f*** up?
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That's a question I've often asked myself: Why did Bruce Pearl fess up. Frank Haith never fessed up and he's still coaching. Calipari has never admitted to his serial violations and he's still coaching. There's no fairness in the equation.
 
#30
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Special Ed said:
That's a question I've often asked myself: Why did Bruce Pearl fess up. Frank Haith never fessed up and he's still coaching. Calipari has never admitted to his serial violations and he's still coaching. There's no fairness in the equation.
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Good one Ed. lol
 
#33
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BruinVol said:
99% of what I have seen has been positive from the players but lately especially stokes has gotten fairly loose lipped IMO.


Here is another example of a comment that I am sure CCM wouldn't like not to be out there.

@JaysonSwain: RT @andybreal: #Vols Jarnell Stokes sounds off on #UT 's matchup w/ #Arkansas ,"They lack size and length so we should dominate them."..


Just seems to me he is losing his grip on especially stokes
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Here's the full quote..

Ben Fredrickson...

Here's Stokes' full, less sexy quote about how UT and Arkansas compare in the rebounding department: "We should be in pretty good shape rebounding-wise. They lack size and length, so I think we will be able to dominate them inside the paint. But they're also playing away from their home. Luckily, we don't have to play them in their environment, or they would be a totally different team."
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Here's the full quote..

Ben Fredrickson...

Here's Stokes' full, less sexy quote about how UT and Arkansas compare in the rebounding department: "We should be in pretty good shape rebounding-wise. They lack size and length, so I think we will be able to dominate them inside the paint. But they're also playing away from their home. Luckily, we don't have to play them in their environment, or they would be a totally different team."
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^^I don't see how that's really that much different.
 
#35
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I don't get how they are lacking size and length with 2 6'10 bigs.? Can somebody help me here.

Now if he mentioned being young, I would def agree. But....???
 
#36
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BigZiti09 said:
^^I don't see how that's really that much different.
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One sounds like, they are small, we should completely dominate them.

The other sounds like, they are small, and we are big, we should rebound well.

There's a big difference IMO of saying we should rebound well, and we should dominate the entire game.
 
#37
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Lefteye said:
I don't get how they are lacking size and length with 2 6'10 bigs.? Can somebody help me here.

Now if he mentioned being young, I would def agree. But....???
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Their bigs are skinny, but definitely not lacking length.

Portis can also shoot so either Maymon or Stokes is gonna have to guard him 20 feet out.
 
#38
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bleedingTNorange said:
One sounds like, they are small, we should completely dominate them.

The other sounds like, they are small, and we are big, we should rebound well.

There's a big difference IMO of saying we should rebound well, and we should dominate the entire game.
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IMO, one sounds like "they are small, we should dominate them"

..the other sounds like...
"they are small, we should dominate them at rebounding"

Close enough to be twisted into bulletin board material by Mike Anderson without the help of a media member tweet.
 
#39
#39
BigZiti09 said:
IMO, one sounds like "they are small, we should dominate them"

..the other sounds like...
"they are small, we should dominate them at rebounding"

Close enough to be twisted into bulletin board material by Mike Anderson without the help of a media member tweet.
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It's weird, I can understand what both of you guys are saying at the same time. You gotta admit that the whole quote does take a good bit of the edge off. If Stokes just said "blah blah, we will dominate them" in one concise quote, that's pretty harsh compared to his more analytical assessment.
 
#40
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Chris4Vols22 said:
It's weird, I can understand what both of you guys are saying at the same time. You gotta admit that the whole quote does take a good bit of the edge off. If Stokes just said "blah blah, we will dominate them" in one concise quote, that's pretty harsh compared to his more analytical assessment.
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The quote was taken out of context. But it is a good example of why you teach your players to give "coach speak" in interviews.
 
#41
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BigZiti09 said:
The quote was taken out of context. But it is a good example of why you teach your players to give "coach speak" in interviews.
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You saying he should have just left out the "dominate" part? I can agree with that even though I don't really have a problem with it to begin with.
 
#42
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Chris4Vols22 said:
You saying he should have just left out the "dominate" part? I can agree with that even though I don't really have a problem with it to begin with.
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Only problem I with throwing out the "dominate" word is the last time we were suppose to dominate a team down low was NC State. :)
 
#44
#44
Chris4Vols22 said:
You saying he should have just left out the "dominate" part? I can agree with that even though I don't really have a problem with it to begin with.
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I don't have a problem with him saying it really. My point is just that the actual quote and the quote "taken out of context" aren't really that different.

He says we should dominate them in the paint and then goes on to say basically that we shouldn't have a problem with them because they suck on the road.
 
#45
#45
BigZiti09 said:
I don't have a problem with him saying it really. My point is just that the actual quote and the quote "taken out of context" aren't really that different.

He says we should dominate them in the paint and then goes on to say basically that we shouldn't have a problem with them because they suck on the road.[/QUOTE]

Ben that you?

He said they were a different team at home. You said they suck on the road.
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#46
#46
BigZiti09 said:
IMO, one sounds like "they are small, we should dominate them"

..the other sounds like...
"they are small, we should dominate them at rebounding"

Close enough to be twisted into bulletin board material by Mike Anderson without the help of a media member tweet.
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IMO there's a big difference between saying we should dominate a team, and we should dominate in a certain category.

I'm not talking in terms of bulletin board material, a coach can find that anytime he wants. The issue many took, was a media member omitting parts of the quote to make it sound as if he was almost talking $hit about Arkansas.
 
#47
#47
Lefteye said:
BigZiti09 said:
I don't have a problem with him saying it really. My point is just that the actual quote and the quote "taken out of context" aren't really that different.

He says we should dominate them in the paint and then goes on to say basically that we shouldn't have a problem with them because they suck on the road.
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Ben that you?

He said they were a different team at home. You said they suck on the road.
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I said "basically."

That's what it sounded like to me. He said something about them being a different team at home. So what does that say about them on the road?
 
#48
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BigZiti09 said:
The quote was taken out of context. But it is a good example of why you teach your players to give "coach speak" in interviews.
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Which is exactly what was said afterwards by UT AD members. They said you wonder why players are told to give such bland answered, this is exactly why.
 
#50
#50
Chris4Vols22 said:
There's plenty to like minus us not playing up to expectations this year. Not saying he's a great coach or that we will get a Final Four under him, but the way people act around here, you'd think we're 6-10 right now.
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Preach it. All I want us to do is in the big dance it's been too long
 
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