Does anyone really think this incoming recruiting class will be that good?

[Stoked]

Cofer is a 3* per Scout, Rivals, and 247.
Austin is a 3* per Scout and Rivals; but 247 has him as a 4* but a composite 3*.

Really doesn't matter, watch their tape. They'll most likely be bumped up. Regardless I've watched enough of them to know that they'll be legit. Can't say for sure about the other two. But Cofer is breaking back boards. He's just was we need. The question is will we get them all if there is a coaching change?

 

[Kusotate]

Really doesn't matter, watch their tape. They'll most likely be bumped up. Regardless I've watched enough of them to know that they'll be legit. Can't say for sure about the other two. But Cofer is breaking back boards. He's just was we need. The question is will we get them all if there is a coaching change?

I think Austin will have the easiest transition of the two, the kid is an exceptional talent that can create shots and penetrate to the basket.

Cofer is good but undersized for a college PF.

 

[Stoked]

I think Austin will have the easiest transition of the two, the kid is an exceptional talent that can create shots and penetrate to the basket.

Cofer is good but undersized for a college PF.

Undersized? Cofer is 6'7. Taller and way more athletic than Maymon and he has held his own just fine in college. 6'7 is undersized in the NBA but not college.

 

[Kusotate]

Undersized? Cofer is 6'7. Taller and way more athletic than Maymon and he has held his own just fine in college. 6'7 is undersized in the NBA but not college.

Cofer is 6'7 but he weighs less than Cornish.... Maymon and Stokes are short for their position but they have to body weight to help with positioning and rebounding.

 

[ShowSomePride]

Austin is severely underrated. ESPN has pretty good basketball recruiting coverage and at one point Austin was a top 50 player on there and labeled the top defensive pg in the class. Not sure why his other rankings tanked but its easy to see from his film that he is very talented.

 

[Stoked]

Cofer is 6'7 but he weighs less than Cornish.... Maymon and Stokes are short for their position but they have to body weight to help with positioning and rebounding.

Good thing they make weight benches

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Kenneth Faried was listed at 6'7" 190lbs coming out of high school, Cofer is listed at 6'8" 205lbs.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I know this is pointless, and doesn't ultimately matter, but just a thought. How would the perception and outlook of Tennessee basketball be, if Martin landed the guys he finished 2nd for?

5* Kevon Looney
5* Jaquan Lyle
5* Austin Nichols
4* Jonathan Williams lll

 

[JackHVFL]

Biggest problem with Martin is his lazy recruiting. He is a horrible talent evaluator, and settles for projects. Maybe this group is different, but based on Martin's past, I'm not feeling that confident.

He's also a lazy coach. He's always sitting down, never showing emotion. I forget the game (maybe Mizzouri) but he was sitting down with like 15 seconds left and he had to stand up and walk over to the ref to call a timeout and that cost us 5 valuable seconds.
It's getting ridiculous how little emotion he shows...

 

[Stoked]

I know this is pointless, and doesn't ultimately matter, but just a thought. How would the perception and outlook of Tennessee basketball be, if Martin landed the guys he finished 2nd for?

5* Kevon Looney
5* Jaquan Lyle
5* Austin Nichols
4* Jonathan Williams lll

One of top 2 and we'd at least have some hope going into next year. Any of the bottom two would have made this team a lot better and again would bring hope for next year.

 

[JackHVFL]

Two things: Can Tennessee sign any more players?

Also, it seems as if very few of the players know their role on the team like Florida is so great at.
We have stokes taking long jumpshots and setting screens around the perimeter, when he needs to stay in the block.
We have Armani Moore taking jump shots, and dear lord I hope I never have to see another one.
The team has no direction whatsoever on offense, and that is Cuonzo's largest fault.

 

[Rudy123]

Honest question, does anyone on here believe that this incoming class will be special as they say it is? Sure, they're good players but lets not forget, we are losing most of our players after this season so next year could actually be worse for us if Martin is retained. (Which I hope to goodness he isn't) Does anyone think this incoming class is a little overrated?

They will not make an immediate impact because they have too many freshmen at key position. 2014 will be another 5 win season.

2015 will be an 8 win season! 2016 will be a 10 win season! 2017 could be an 11 or 12 win season IF the juniors of 2016 don't declare for the NFL. If the seniors play in 2017, we win 11 or 12 games for the season. 12 regular season games, an S.E.C. Championship game and a bowl game....

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Anywho...as some have already said, I don't see anyone calling this class "special". It's not like people are talking about this class like thy are the football class, saying this is the class that leads us to a national championship.

I think you've got 4 really solid players, that will all be major contributors. I think they're much better than the Reese, Q's, Edwards, ndiayes, Washpuns etc. They're likely not on the level of a Stokes, but more so on the level of Josh Richardson. Nothing wrong with that though IMO, as Richardson has developed very nicely and I'm excited to see what he brings next year.

I have said it previously and I stand by it, I think you've got a group full of winners in next years class. Kids with a different attitude and mindset than the majority of what's currently on the roster. Larry Austin currently has his team 30-0 last time I saw and playing for a state title, the guys are just winners.

The talent level may not be at a level it is this year, but I think you'll see the team next year play much more as a unit and a much more balanced squad. I don't think you'll have a guy averaging 20ppg, and I don't think 99% of your scoring will comes from the starting 5.

Jmo

 

[Stoked]

They will not make an immediate impact because they have too many freshmen at key position. 2014 will be another 5 win season.

2015 will be an 8 win season! 2016 will be a 10 win season! 2017 could be an 11 or 12 win season IF the juniors of 2016 don't declare for the NFL. If the seniors play in 2017, we win 11 or 12 games for the season. 12 regular season games, an S.E.C. Championship game and a bowl game....

Wut

 

[bleedingTNorange]

He's also a lazy coach. He's always sitting down, never showing emotion. I forget the game (maybe Mizzouri) but he was sitting down with like 15 seconds left and he had to stand up and walk over to the ref to call a timeout and that cost us 5 valuable seconds.
It's getting ridiculous how little emotion he shows...

People see what they want, check my avi. You don't have to beg Calipari to be successful, plenty of coaches sit for portions of the game. Sitting down isn't what's making this years team underachieve.

 

[JackHVFL]

They will not make an immediate impact because they have too many freshmen at key position. 2014 will be another 5 win season.

2015 will be an 8 win season! 2016 will be a 10 win season! 2017 could be an 11 or 12 win season IF the juniors of 2016 don't declare for the NFL. If the seniors play in 2017, we win 11 or 12 games for the season. 12 regular season games, an S.E.C. Championship game and a bowl game....

Wrong sport LOL

and JFYI, the football class will be special... and many will make immediate impact IMO

 

[bleedingTNorange]

They will not make an immediate impact because they have too many freshmen at key position. 2014 will be another 5 win season.

2015 will be an 8 win season! 2016 will be a 10 win season! 2017 could be an 11 or 12 win season IF the juniors of 2016 don't declare for the NFL. If the seniors play in 2017, we win 11 or 12 games for the season. 12 regular season games, an S.E.C. Championship game and a bowl game....

Uhm wrong sport?

 

[germanicus]

I know this is pointless, and doesn't ultimately matter, but just a thought. How would the perception and outlook of Tennessee basketball be, if Martin landed the guys he finished 2nd for?

5* Kevon Looney
5* Jaquan Lyle
5* Austin Nichols
4* Jonathan Williams lll

This is something all the "but Coach K had crap records for his first three years and turned out to be an all time great" folks miss. K had the Number 1 recruiting class int he country locked up going into his third season at Duke.

What you just laid out there would be the equivalent of what K had in the bank and, yes, that would give me reason to say give the guy another year.

The question would still remain, what is he going to do with them? CCM has yet to show any kind of coherent system for utilizing talent. Yes, he seems to do a decent job of improving individuals, but is totally lost at putting them together to maximize the team.

 

[orangeluvr]

Good enough for Pearl to coach up.

Bruce does have a knack for coaching up players he didn't recruit. :yes:

 

[Fijivol72]

I agree with all of those except lazy recruiter. He has pulled in two 5 stars and was really close to getting 2 more. What stopped him was his playing style and lack of tourney experience. His in game coaching is awful but his recruiting isn't bad IMO.

I don't follow bb recruiting so I will go with you, including everything else is absolutely true.

 

[Stoked]

I don't follow bb recruiting so I will go with you, including everything else is absolutely true.

The thing about Martin's recruiting is he locks in on a couple highly rated players and spends all his time and energy on them to get them. For example last year, he went around the nation following Hubbs and Nichols. He really banked on getting both of them and then rounding the class out with AJD. It almost worked for him but he didn't realize Nichols was a momma's boy and would surprise everyone and stay home. He lucked into getting Thompson, but he was almost left with a class of just just AJD and Hubbs because he put so much time into 2 recruits.

This year it was a little different and he did do better with signing a couple top 150 guys, but failed to close on his top 2 targets again Lyle and Looney.

He also fails to recruit shooters. He loves to get high character guys (which don't get me wrong is good) but they are usually raw offensively, but are athletic and good at defense. Then tries to develop them into shooters (like what he did with Richardson.) He needs shooters and above the rim post players and has failed to recruit these types of players.

 

[BigZiti09]

I would say that this class is underrated but still not much above average. We have 4 SEC caliber players. Austin and Cofer are the two biggest gets IMO. Really like those guys.

Really could have benefited from Lyle or Looney.

All these guys are going to be around the caliber of Richardson or Darius Thompson it would appear.

 

[Stoked]

I would say that this class is underrated but still not much above average. We have 4 SEC caliber players. Austin and Cofer are the two biggest gets IMO. Really like those guys.

Really could have benefited from Lyle or Looney.

All these guys are going to be around the caliber of Richardson or Darius Thompson it would appear.

Need to a shooter

 

[Lefteye]

Austin and possibly Cofer are the ones that could be a grade ahead of JRich and DT. IMO

As for Martin being a lazy recruiter, I don't think he is lazy he just doesn't get enough offers out there. Tennessee has sold itself for a long time. So start throwing out the amount of offers schools like Memphis does and see if a kid or his mom or meemaw falls in love with our fine university, even if you don't expect to have a shot at the kid.

 

[PanicVol]

The only people that think this is a good class are UT fans. They might end up being amazing, but given our track record, i doubt it........sorry.