Does anyone really think this incoming recruiting class will be that good?

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volbeast33 said:
his best class.....yes...............comparedto the rest of the country...........not so much.......some do have some potential though
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I've never really compared UT's classes in basketball to the rest of the country. Even Bruce Pearl wasn't bringing in top classes in the country.
 
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HBCButch said:
I've never really compared UT's classes in basketball to the rest of the country. Even Bruce Pearl wasn't bringing in top classes in the country.
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Before Pearl hung himself with the lies and getting others to lie, he 'did more with less' than anyone I remember in recent CBB.

What I question now is if Pearl is brought back, what parent who cares is going to send their kid to be coached by a proven liar, who got caught, destroyed his coaching career, his assistants careers, and brought shame on his school? I wouldn't.
 
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I think Cornish could be the x factor in this recruiting class in that he could be a McRae type scorer by his sophomore season while Austin could be the answer to the point guard position but I think Darius Thompson begins the 2015 season at point guard.

CCM is getting players from Illinois and Louisiana, a couple of states that UT has not had a lot of basketball players from in the past.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Damn, beat me to it lol.

As you said, we obviously won't be near the same level of talent, but I'll take a balanced offense over a 2 player dominant offense anyday.

We are easy to scout, we've got 2 guys that you really gotta worry about, that's it. If you've got 5-7 guys who are all capable of putting up double digits that makes thinks ally tougher.

Obviously wayyyyyy too early but I could see...

Richardson 14
Hubbs 13
Austin 10
Davis 7
Moore 7
Cofer 7
Thompson 6
Cornish 6

That's 70ppg right there, and with possibility of Richardson or Hubbs adding more.
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You leave Turman out, who I hope will be more than just a statue we've seen from big men in the past and present. I'm really looking forward to having a big that can score more points than I could at 51 yo. Give me 5 shots and I'll make 2. That's 4 points and 4 points more than Yemi or Ndaiye average(d). I'm really sick of it actually. Makes me want to puke.
 
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HBCButch said:
Other people wanted some of the players Cuonzo has gotten to, especially in the '14 class.
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Not the same people who wanted the players pearl acquired. The talent returning is dreadful and the incoming recruiting class is subpar. Who knows what in the world will convince you blind fools of the disaster that is on the horizon.
 
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BOP said:
Other people wanted the players he recruited.
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Go back and look at the 4 stars who we either never got to use(don't count), didn't work out for whatever reason(just as good as never having gotten them in other words) and tell me how great his classes were. What is this? Fantasy league? What could have been league?
 
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BOP said:
Not the same people who wanted the players pearl acquired. The talent returning is dreadful and the incoming recruiting class is subpar. Who knows what in the world will convince you blind fools of the disaster that is on the horizon.
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If Austin was still ranked a top 50 player would you be saying the same thing? You're making judgements based off rankings without evaluating the players yourself. Sure, it's not an all-star class, but it has good potential.
 
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ShowSomePride said:
If Austin was still ranked a top 50 player would you be saying the same thing? You're making judgements based off rankings without evaluating the players yourself. Sure, it's not an all-star class, but it has good potential.
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Noone on this site has evaluated any of these players theirself.
 
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sport3500 said:
I think Cornish could be the x factor in this recruiting class in that he could be a McRae type scorer by his sophomore season while Austin could be the answer to the point guard position but I think Darius Thompson begins the 2015 season at point guard.

CCM is getting players from Illinois and Louisiana, a couple of states that UT has not had a lot of basketball players from in the past.
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If Austin can get the job done at the point, we will have a good basketball team. Just think how good the last 2-3 teams would have been if we had a PG.
 
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HBCButch said:
mmmmm, go back and look at the classes. In retrospect they weren't. But keep polishing those 6, 7 and 9 recruiting class trophies.
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Though it ended poorly for a few, while they were here most actually played very well and won at a program best level. They were top 10 classes that actually produced top 10 type results on the court.

Ramar Smith came in and averaged 11 points, 3.1 assists, 3 rebs, and 1.1 steals a game as a freshman. UT was consistently ranked in the top 10 and Ramar Smith started for a sweet 16 team that was a bucket away from knocking off the #1 seeded national runner up.

Duke Crews averaged 8 points, 5 rebounds and shot 52% from the floor and was obviously a part of the same team accomplishments Ramar was.

Wayne Chism was, imo, one of the top forwards to ever play at UT. Beautiful 4 year career and key member of the best 4 year stretch of basketball ever played here.

Marques Johnson transferred. Bust for here.

Josh Tabb was a similar level recruit to what our top guys are this class. Good UT career, solid defensive player and very successful team accomplishments while here.

Cam Tatum was a very good 4 year player for UT. Scored over 1000 points here, 10th all-time on the UT 3 pointers made list. One of 8 UT players ever to have 1000 points, 400 rebounds, 200 assists.

Emanuel Negedu was looking like he'd be a very good player, sadly his heart wasn't going to allow that.

Bobby Maze averaged 9 points, 3.2 assists and shot 49 percent from the floor. Team did a lot of winning with Maze at the point. Was also a solid defender.

Scotty Hopson was a First team All-SEC player. Put up great stats throughout his career.

Renaldo Woolridge never quite managed to get beyond having a few big moments rather than a steady career. Bust compared to ranking.

Tobias Harris one and done first round NBA draft pick.

Trae Golden is the most strangely vilified player in Vols history to me. Despite rocky relationship with Martin, averaged 13 ppg, was named 2nd team All-SEC and the most improved player of the year in the SEC in 2012 by SI.

Jordan McCrae has turned into an All SEC player and contender for SECPOY. If the Vols had the record most of us agree they should have had this year, Jordan would be on All-America lists.
 
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Thompson has a lot of potential... he just needs to get bigger (not too hard to do) and improve his jumpshot.
 
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The goal is always to make the NCAA tourney. There are 36 at large bids and 32 automatic bids available. Of the 32 automatic bids, in my estimation apx 20 of those are for lower ranked conferences (part of what makes the tourney fun). This means UT has to be one of the best 48 teams in the country along with having a bit of luck to reach the tourney.

Earlier it was stated the current class is ranked 49th. What was the 2013 class rated with Hubbs, Davis, and Thompson? If Stokes is gone as expected, we've got Richardson and not much else from the prior 2 classes. Hard to envision this group as being ranked in the top 75 by the recruiting services. If CCM returnes, that's a pretty steep hill to climb if he has to coach the talent up that far.

Without some stout transfers or if Stokes surprises us all and returns, then next season is looking pretty bleak if we're depending on Richardson and a bunch of mid-rated freshmen and sophmores to lead us to success. Richardson's a good piece, but not a bell cow to build a team around IMHO. Hubbs might be good but who knows? The rest will need to grow into quality SEC types same as Richardson did. I simply cannot see any way next season isn't a rough one for UT.
 
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ShowSomePride said:
If Austin was still ranked a top 50 player would you be saying the same thing? You're making judgements based off rankings without evaluating the players yourself. Sure, it's not an all-star class, but it has good potential.
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Yeah, I don't think signing 1 top 50 player and 3 3 stars will get the job done. He is not a top 50 player though either.
 
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At the end of the day, it's the kind of class that might work out to be pretty good in year 3-4 if it stays together and everyone develops nicely. Basically the mid-major method.

As we've saw from Kentucky, trying to depend on 3-4 NBA first rounders can be tough when they're freshmen. Having to lean heavily on our 100-150 type recruits in year one and two is unfair to them and makes things rough on UT. That's what happens when your coach takes on a boat load of projects and they don't work out.
 
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Jimmy Hyams was talking to someone on his show today. If anyone heard it, thats basically how I feel about our recruiting.
 
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JackHVFL said:
Thompson has a lot of potential... he just needs to get bigger (not too hard to do) and improve his jumpshot.
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He has to develop the ability to bend at the waist in defending. He is always straight up from the waist down on D. It really interferes with his ability to move laterally against a quick opponent which is almost always the case against an opposing PG.
 
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