Does Brian Kelly seem like a good coach to you, smh

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He doesn't seem to do any motivation or actual coaching. I mean I have seen coaches lose it but then they turn it around to build the player up. Or I have seen Spurrier pull a qb and throw his visor then come back and have him playing better during the game. Kelly seems to be good at a gameplan and designing an offense but he sucks during gameday. No way that team feels it can compete. No way. Especially the qb that played an awesome game. If anything doesn't go Kelly's way he totally loses it. He has no poise. Doesn't seem like somebody who should have a top job.
 
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I think he's good. ND just does not have the resoures to compete with the SEC conference for talent in the South. When's the last time they beat out Bama or Fl for a recruit in this area? The SEC will not even schedule ND anymore because they don't even want the team playing in our market. Now the Big 10 has expanded and is putting a fence around the North recruiting market, so ND is slowly getting squeezed out of the North as well.
 
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I wanted Kelly to replace Failure. Good thing I'm not the AD. Dooley is way better than Kelly. I think the one year Kiffin fiasco was worth getting Dooley.
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vols-1 said:
I think he's good. ND just does not have the resoures to compete with the SEC conference for talent in the South. When's the last time they beat out Bama or Fl for a recruit in this area? The SEC will not even schedule ND anymore because they don't even want the team playing in our market. Now the Big 10 has expanded and is putting a fence around the North recruiting market, so ND is slowly getting squeezed out of the North as well.
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Good point. ND is blacklisted in a way. I never thought of it that way. They really can't compete. Maybe that's why Kelly is losing it reality has set in. Because usf and mich aren't that good and he's 0-2.
 
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ND has more resources than Cincinnati. This ND team couldn't beat Kelly's Cincinnati teams.
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Love it when ND get's beat. Kelly will be 0-3 this time next week. Any team that gives up 28 points in the 4th quarter - deserves to lose. Looks like Kelly's boys need some conditioning.
 
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bamacheats said:
ND has more resources than Cincinnati. This ND team couldn't beat Kelly's Cincinnati teams.
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So then what's his problem? ND should be 2-0 this year and lost 2-3 games last year they should have won.
 
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Honestly don't see why any kid would like to play for him, seems like a prick.
 
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iuvol2012 said:
Charlie Weis left behind a huge trainwreck personnel-wise, especially the defense.
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Yeah but 2 years worth? It usually takes one season to figure out who is god and then get the new recruits in the second year. Kelly's defenses at Cincy were weak as well. Maybe ND needs to stopp going after offensive geniuses and start trying to hire well rounded or defensive minded coaches. Seems as though a defensive coordinator is harder to find these days.
 
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volberry said:
Yeah but 2 years worth? It usually takes one season to figure out who is god and then get the new recruits in the second year. Kelly's defenses at Cincy were weak as well. Maybe ND needs to stopp going after offensive geniuses and start trying to hire well rounded or defensive minded coaches. Seems as though a defensive coordinator is harder to find these days.
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Yeah. I'd say just by watching various games of theirs in the last few years that it was about 3 or 4 years worth of defensive personnel trainwrecks. Just my opinion though.
 
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iuvol2012 said:
Yeah. I'd say just by watching various games of theirs in the last few years that it was about 3 or 4 years worth of defensive personnel trainwrecks. Just my opinion though.
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Exactly how long does it take a coach to get the defense he needs? Are they looking at 2013. That's 4 years under Kelly.
 
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volberry said:
Yeah but 2 years worth? It usually takes one season to figure out who is god and then get the new recruits in the second year. Kelly's defenses at Cincy were weak as well. Maybe ND needs to stopp going after offensive geniuses and start trying to hire well rounded or defensive minded coaches. Seems as though a defensive coordinator is harder to find these days.
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Wasn't Willingham a d guy?
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knucklehead_vol said:
Wasn't Willingham a d guy?
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Forgot about that. So basically ND is not capable of putting together a complete team in modern times. They cannot have a decent lineup like the last few BCS champs? Meaning they will not be able to compete. Still interesting that this has happened to them. Seems like the only traditional powerhouse who couldn't do this with the right coach.
 
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volberry said:
So then what's his problem? ND should be 2-0 this year and lost 2-3 games last year they should have won.
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A lot of recruits can't meet the higher admission requirements of ND. ND can't go into the cities and find scholars that want to go to a Catholic school, so that's when South Florida steps in. Plus their trying to compete with state universites. It's no coincidence that University of Tennessee has set up campus's close to border states, now it can get easier access to the surrounding states schools. But ND is just one University.
 
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Escape Goat said:
Nowhere near as bad as what Dooley inherited, and the Vols are 2-0
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Somewhat agree. However, their recruiting classes have been top of the line for a long time.
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tim said:
Somewhat agree. However, their recruiting classes have been top of the line for a long time.
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That's what I'm saying. There is no excuse for that garbage team to be 0-2. Granny thinks they will be 10-2 and play for NCC.
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vols-1 said:
A lot of recruits can't meet the higher admission requirements of ND. ND can't go into the cities and find scholars that want to go to a Catholic school, so that's when South Florida steps in. Plus their trying to compete with state universites. It's no coincidence that University of Tennessee has set up campus's close to border states, now it can get easier access to the surrounding states schools. But ND is just one University.
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Makes sense but it seems as though there is no excuse really. They use to get top recruits who met standards so there is a reason they are going to other places besides academics.
 
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volberry said:
Makes sense but it seems as though there is no excuse really. They use to get top recruits who met standards so there is a reason they are going to other places besides academics.
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I think its more like the other schools have slowly lowed their standards since integration to get the players in while ND has not. Not hard to see ND is still mostly white players[not there's anything wrong with that:)]
 
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vols-1 said:
I think its more like the other schools have slowly lowed their standards since integration to get the players in while ND has not. Not hard to see ND is still mostly white players[not there's anything wrong with that:)]
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Ummm, Standford, Ucla, and Michigan have high standards. Yet they beat ND.
 
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volberry said:
Ummm, Standford, Ucla, and Michigan have high standards. Yet they beat ND.
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ND is 7-2 against Stanford in the last nine games. And Notre Dame is 4-0 all-time against UCLA.

Now Michigan on the otherhand, They will do anything it takes to beat Ohio State(in any sport), just read about the Michigan basketball scandal.
 
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vols-1 said:
A lot of recruits can't meet the higher admission requirements of ND. ND can't go into the cities and find scholars that want to go to a Catholic school, so that's when South Florida steps in. Plus their trying to compete with state universites. It's no coincidence that University of Tennessee has set up campus's close to border states, now it can get easier access to the surrounding states schools. But ND is just one University.
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the same thing that happened to the academies in the 50's and 60's in happening to ND.

army and navy both have national titles but have been irrelevant in the big picture for years
 
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