Does McGwire deserve the HOF??????

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OK this is a big time heated question???

I say yes.
As a rookie he blasted 48 homeruns, and was a toothpick.
He is one of the most well known powerhitters of all time.
He has NEVER failed a drug test, plus he retired in 01 and steroids werent banned in baseball until 02.
The supplement, ANDRO, that he was taking was an over the counter drug. Not illegal.
He helped save baseball in 98 with Sosa. Has 583 carrer homeruns.
And for ppl who wanna scream how juiced he was, chew on this. The balls have been juiced since early 90s. And for all those poor pitchers who had to face these guys, who knows how many of the pitchers were also juiced.
I hope yall come strong with your arguments. My vote is YES.


Hat, I expect you to have a great argument here.
 
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checkerboard_charly said:
OK this is a big time heated question???

I say yes.
As a rookie he blasted 48 homeruns, and was a toothpick.
He is one of the most well known powerhitters of all time.
He has NEVER failed a drug test, plus he retired in 01 and steroids werent banned in baseball until 02.
The supplement, ANDRO, that he was taking was an over the counter drug. Not illegal.
He helped save baseball in 98 with Sosa. Has 583 carrer homeruns.
And for ppl who wanna scream how juiced he was, chew on this. The balls have been juiced since early 90s. And for all those poor pitchers who had to face these guys, who knows how many of the pitchers were also juiced.
I hope yall come strong with your arguments. My vote is YES.


Hat, I expect you to have a great argument here.
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Guess I will say no. But I don't have strong argument. Just don't really like they guy, him or Sosa or Bonds.
 
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checkerboard_charly said:
OK this is a big time heated question???

I say yes.
As a rookie he blasted 48 homeruns, and was a toothpick.
He is one of the most well known powerhitters of all time.
He has NEVER failed a drug test, plus he retired in 01 and steroids werent banned in baseball until 02.
The supplement, ANDRO, that he was taking was an over the counter drug. Not illegal.
He helped save baseball in 98 with Sosa. Has 583 carrer homeruns.
And for ppl who wanna scream how juiced he was, chew on this. The balls have been juiced since early 90s. And for all those poor pitchers who had to face these guys, who knows how many of the pitchers were also juiced.
I hope yall come strong with your arguments. My vote is YES.


Hat, I expect you to have a great argument here.
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Hell yeah he deserves the HOF. He came to the NL which was a pitcher's league at the time and made some of those guys look silly. And if you notice only a handful of players in the NL have been talked about as "Juiced". More players in the AL have been accused and have stated they had used them, like half the Yankees.

McGwire deserves it and if someone doesn't vote for him just because he used "Andro" then they are a poor judge of character and don't understand that McGwire along with Sosa brought baseball back in the late 90's.

Very good post CC.
 
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checkerboard_charly said:
Why??
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I guess because the way you(not just you), but anyone has to throw all the disclaimers up like, never failed a drug test or steroids were not illegal until 02. Just crap like that. OJ was never criminally convicted of murder, but I am pretty sure he did it.
 
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checkerboard_charly said:
OK this is a big time heated question???

I say yes.
As a rookie he blasted 48 homeruns, and was a toothpick.
He is one of the most well known powerhitters of all time.
He has NEVER failed a drug test, plus he retired in 01 and steroids werent banned in baseball until 02.
The supplement, ANDRO, that he was taking was an over the counter drug. Not illegal.
He helped save baseball in 98 with Sosa. Has 583 carrer homeruns.
And for ppl who wanna scream how juiced he was, chew on this. The balls have been juiced since early 90s. And for all those poor pitchers who had to face these guys, who knows how many of the pitchers were also juiced.
I hope yall come strong with your arguments. My vote is YES.


Hat, I expect you to have a great argument here.
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He absolutely deserves in, I mean if you don't let him in you are turning this whole thing into a witch hunt. And who is to say how many pitchers facing him weren't juicing? It's the pompous media types that are making "an example" of him to try and prove a point about them not standing for this, its an absolute joke.

p.s. He hit 49 home runs in 1987 as a rookie,still a record.:thumbsup:
 
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I'm conflicted on whether or not I think he should be put in... but I don't think he has a chance after that performance in Congress last year.
 
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Is there some requirement about character when voting on the HOF? Or am I completely making that up?
 
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I say yes. The homerun race between McGwire and Sosa, IMO was almost single-handedly responsible for the nation getting interested again in baseball.

Now I know it's still the case that nobody outside of New York and Boston really cares that much about baseball, but think of where it would be if the hard feelings after the strike carried through to this day.
 
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I would say no because of the steroids but then we'd never have another player ever getting into the HOF
 
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vols kick balls said:
If Rose dont get in nobody does.
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Ty Cobb got in with no problem. Baseballs problem is they take up causes when it suits them. In 98 when they needed a shot in the arm McGwire and Sosa gave it to them and don't believe the GMs and Execs didn't know what was going on but now that the public backlash has taken place they throw all the blame on the players. Baseball showing its cowardice yet again.
 
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1) The remark I made was purposely loose and off the cuff. Get your facts straight, I am sure he has lied at some point, whether it was on tape is another story.

2) If your reasoning makes you feel better, then yeah for you.
 
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Has nobody else considered the importance of the homerun race of '98? I honestly believe that race between McGwire and Sosa is among the most important and impactful events in the history of baseball.

And for that alone, I'd vote both of them in.
 
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milohimself said:
Has nobody else considered the importance of the homerun race of '98? I honestly believe that race between McGwire and Sosa is among the most important and impactful events in the history of baseball.

And for that alone, I'd vote both of them in.
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Baseball would have made it without that, it just expedited the process.
 
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