Does Obama stand a chance againts McCain?

#51
#51
volsforever27 said:
I know everyone keeps harping on how unpopular Bush is, but he's been president for 8 years... somebody must have liked him, at least more than Gore and Kerry. McCain will be trying to appeal to the moderates... I honestly believe he thinks he can win without the conservative vote. So Bush won't be as much as a factor as some might think. Bush doesn't mean a Dem victory in November.
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You underestimate how many idiot homers are in America on both sides.

Some people will elect a strawberry douche into office so long as they are are a Rep or Dem.
 
#52
#52
SWIL said:
You underestimate how many idiot homers are in America on both sides.

Some people will elect a strawberry douche into office so long as they are are a Rep or Dem.
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I get what your saying, my point is a lot of people seem to think that Bush's popularity (or lack thereof) means Obama is guranteed a win.
 
#54
#54
Obama has such a commanding presence that he just lost a primary 2 to 1. He's a virtual steamroller.
 
#58
#58
the fact that there is even remotely a debate here speaks volumes to the unworthiness of the socialists being fronted by the dems.
 
#62
#62
Yea it is fun, especially during the offseason with no football or basketball to get excited about.
 
#63
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allvol123 said:
Obama has such a commanding presence that he just lost a primary 2 to 1. He's a virtual steamroller.
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Sort of like giving up a field goal in the fourth quarter with a 4-TD lead. He'll still win unless lurid pictures or videos of him emerge in the next month.

I don't know who's saying he's a steamroller. In fact, I don't know if anyone has said any candidate since Clinton in '96 was a steamroller.
 
#64
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TennNC said:
Sort of like giving up a field goal in the fourth quarter with a 4-TD lead. He'll still win unless lurid pictures or videos of him emerge in the next month.

I don't know who's saying he's a steamroller. In fact, I don't know if anyone has said any candidate since Clinton in '96 was a steamroller.
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Yea a FG with a 4TD lead in the 4th, in an intrasquad game. You'd think someone that built such a big lead could put away the competition. Might not be the savior the Ds think he is. Damn, you'd think the Ds couldn't possibly screw up winning after 4 years of Bush, AGAIN.
 
#65
#65
allvol123 said:
Yea a FG with a 4TD lead in the 4th, in an intrasquad game. You'd think someone that built such a big lead could put away the competition. Might not be the savior the Ds think he is. Damn, you'd think the Ds couldn't possibly screw up winning after 4 years of Bush, AGAIN.
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Don't forget that Obama didn't campaign there, Clinton did, and it's a state that is perfectly suited for the Clinton type voter. I highly doubt the Obama campaign is concerned about West Virginina numbers, it's like the GOP sweating over D.C. returns.
 
#66
#66
Obama is doing the smart thing by saying "Voting for McCain is like voting a third term for Bush" very smart but very wrong IMO. He is saying the things that he needs to win. McCain will not be able to fire back with Wright or his wifes quotes for fear of being called a racist.
 
#67
#67
615 Vol said:
Don't forget that Obama didn't campaign there, Clinton did, and it's a state that is perfectly suited for the Clinton type voter. I highly doubt the Obama campaign is concerned about West Virginina numbers, it's like the GOP sweating over D.C. returns.
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So why did he not campaign there? Knew he could not win a democartic primary there? And what is a Clinton "type" voter? Are there many of these in the general election?
 
#68
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allvol123 said:
So why did he not campaign there? Knew he could not win a democartic primary there? And what is a Clinton "type" voter? Are there many of these in the general election?
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Do you not know what type of voters appeal to each candidate? Anyways, low-income, white blue collar workers such as coal miners come to mind as a "Clinton type voter" to me. Why should he campaign there? It makes more sense to be in Missouri and Michigan right now working on general election voters. John McCain has had a nice head start so why give him any more time when Obama knows he will be in the general election.
 
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615 Vol said:
Do you not know what type of voters appeal to each candidate? Anyways, low-income, white blue collar workers such as coal miners come to mind as a "Clinton type voter" to me. Why should he campaign there? It makes more sense to be in Missouri and Michigan right now working on general election voters. John McCain has had a nice head start so why give him any more time when Obama knows he will be in the general election.
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You knew the type, so I wanted to see what is was from you. So WV people don't vote in the general election? And he is going to have a problem getting the low-income, white blue collar workers in the general election? You'd think his message of "change" would permeate all demographics.
 
#70
#70
In "religious" states Obama will not fare well because of the Wright issue. Most religious people do not take to well to the kind of statements that were made.
 
#72
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allvol123 said:
He cleaned up in NC, so that can't be it.
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NC has a much larger black population than WV. Obama will own the black demographic. The religious white demographic will be very hard for him to win over after some of the statements people associated with him have made.
 
#73
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SWIL said:
Take into consideration that the Dems. are still fighting amongst the front runner, and this current chart is not surprising.

Things will change once Obama takes full command. It's his election to lose, IMO.
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There are also tons of traditionally red states well within reach for Obama on that map.
 
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