Does Pearl mirror Fulmer as far as coaching goes?

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Both need exceptional athletes to be successful? That seems to be the case.
 
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utfantilidie said:
Both need exceptional athletes to be successful? That seems to be the case.
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Pearl was able to win with Dane Bradshaw on the court. This team is less successful, yet more athletic than Pearl's first two teams at UT.

That said, I think all coaches need "exceptional athletes" if they're going to win big.
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
Pearl was able to win with Dane Bradshaw on the court. This team is less successful, yet more athletic than Pearl's first two teams at UT.

That said, I think all coaches need "exceptional athletes" if they're going to win big.
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Nobody's winning at the level we're after without the best athletes. Part of being the best coach is getting the best athletes and THEN making them do what you need them to do within the team game.
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
Pearl was able to win with Dane Bradshaw on the court. This team is less successful, yet more athletic than Pearl's first two teams at UT.

That said, I think all coaches need "exceptional athletes" if they're going to win big.
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Experience goes a long way. So does composure and effort. That said, I wouldn't be too down on the team. Not many players in the country could have shut down Meeks last night.
 
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utfantilidie said:
Both need exceptional athletes to be successful? That seems to be the case.
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What the heck ... the basketball team is struggling, obviously. But we suffered through 10 years of crap with Fulmer. Yes, he sprinkled in some good years, but on the whole, he underachieved greatly.

Pearl is a very good motivator and incredibly driven. We'll be fine. This team is underachieving. That's true. But, no one in their right mind should've thought that this team would come close to last year's team. Just remember Buzz Petersen and be thankful for Bruce. And, as someone else said, who doesn't need talent? Phil Jackson is considered one of the best basketball coaches of all-time, and he's had Jordan, Kobe, Pippen, and Shaq. That helps.
 
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What Pearl has been able to do is remarkable in itself leading up to this year. We have a young team and it's showing in a lot of ways. Give him time. All coaches need some talent to be successful, coaching alone isn't going to get the job done.

Any comparison between the two men is silly at this point IMO.
 
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Volfan8282 said:
What the heck ... the basketball team is struggling, obviously. But we suffered through 10 years of crap with Fulmer. Yes, he sprinkled in some good years, but on the whole, he underachieved greatly.

Pearl is a very good motivator and incredibly driven. We'll be fine. This team is underachieving. That's true. But, no one in their right mind should've thought that this team would come close to last year's team. Just remember Buzz Petersen and be thankful for Bruce. And, as someone else said, who doesn't need talent? Phil Jackson is considered one of the best basketball coaches of all-time, and he's had Jordan, Kobe, Pippen, and Shaq. That helps.
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the youth and we're better than we were 10 years ago excuses have to stop at some point.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
the youth and we're better than we were 10 years ago excuses have to stop at some point.
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I agree, but we are young. There's no doubt about that. And aside from Chism and Smith, all of the other veterans are not very good to be real honest. Bruce has been here for what? 4 years? Teams go through ups and downs. When you lose somebody like Lofton and even Jajuan Smith, you can't underestimate that. They completely opened up the floor and allowed for a lot more work in the paint and for slashing to the basket. Every team just zones us because we can't hit the backboard from 10 feet. UT hasn't been relevant for 25 years prior to Pearl getting here ... it amazes me that people think we should be top 5 or 10 program now that we got to #1 last year.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
you think he'd have scored 50 against Duke?
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Joe Smith for Maryland used to go off against Duke. I don't remember if he ever got 50, but he got 40 a few times. No one is immune to a performance like that. But, UT is still not very good on defense.
 
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Volfan8282 said:
Joe Smith for Maryland used to go off against Duke. I don't remember if he ever got 50, but he got 40 a few times. No one is immune to a performance like that. But, UT is still not very good on defense.
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a post guy that you don't have the size or athletes to handle is very different than a guy shooting uncontested jumpers.
 
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JAllen18 said:
Did Pearl need successful athletes at Wisconsin-Miluwakee? This team is young. Plain and Simple.
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Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Give him time. No top player in their right mind would have seriously considered coming to this school in the last 20 years, maybe more. Now because of Pearl, these players will find their way to the hill. Be patient. I know it is hard, but be patient.

Just one other note. Just five years ago, we would not have been this upset and disappointed. It would have been the norm and not even worth talking about. Instead, I find myself watching VOL BB games on the internet. Who would've thunk it.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
a post guy that you don't have the size or athletes to handle is very different than a guy shooting uncontested jumpers.
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That's true. I don't know what the answer is because I refuse to believe that Pearl isn't teaching them. It's just not translating on the court. Some of it is ability and some of it is inexperience. I'm hoping it's more inexperience than ability because that will change for sure.
 
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Volfan8282 said:
That's true. I don't know what the answer is because I refuse to believe that Pearl isn't teaching them. It's just not translating on the court. Some of it is ability and some of it is inexperience. I'm hoping it's more inexperience than ability because that will change for sure.
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we have many refusing to believe that the coaching / teaching is part of the issue. It's clearly a part of the issue, but I don't think it's the teaching. I think it's the lack of demanding.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Nobody's winning at the level we're after without the best athletes. Part of being the best coach is getting the best athletes and THEN making them do what you need them to do within the team game.
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Pearl feel apart as a bench coach last night. At some point he had to make someone other than Meeks beat you. Meeks should have been a "no touch" player in the second half. He obviously wasn't. And if it was the players fault for not doing what he said, then they should have been on the bench. Either way, Pearl failed in one of his annual "circle" games.

When Meeks made a wide open three pointer for his 50th point while Maze was cheating down to the free throw line wrapped up the night in a nice little package.
 
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Pearl has helped our program tremedously from a recruiting stand point and notoriety. Our half court game hasn't really impressed me during his tenure. We've lived off pressure defense and the three ball for three years. Now were too big to press effectively and we have no three point shooters.
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
He had a helluva performance, no doubt about it.

But there aren't many teams across the country that would have surrendered 50 to him like the Vols did.
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At some point pride on your home court has to come into play.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
When Meeks made a wide open three pointer for his 50th point while Maze was cheating down to the free throw line wrapped up the night in a nice little package.
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That about sent me over the edge.

I would be willing to bet one of the walk-ons could have face guarded Meeks and done a much better job than the garbage on display last night.
 
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