Does Pearl mirror Fulmer as far as coaching goes?

#26
#26
Cartervol said:
Pearl has helped our program tremedously from a recruiting stand point and notority. Our half court game hasn't really impressed me during his tenure. We've lived off pressure defense and the three ball for three years. Now were too big to press effectively and we have no three point shooters.
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Bingo.
 
#27
#27
Cartervol said:
Pearl has helped our program tremedously from a recruiting stand point and notority. Our half court game hasn't really impressed me during his tenure. We've lived off pressure defense and the three ball for three years. Now were too big to press effectively and we have no three point shooters.
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I agree and got chastised for saying Pearl recruited the wrong players to execute his successful style in another thread.
 
#28
#28
At least this season should stop all the talk/fear of losing Pearl to a big time basketball program.
 
#29
#29
UT IE 95 said:
How many years of college basketball experience did we have on the floor last night compared to UK?
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Exactly. This "youth" excuse is absurd. Tyler, Chism, Prince, even Maze is an upperclassmen and started at PG for OU. That's actually a pretty veteran team by college bball standards.

We just need to face facts that we aren't very good. If it were a "youth" issue we should be getting better and not worse during the season.
 
#30
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Jaytrain5 said:
Pearl was able to win with Dane Bradshaw on the court. This team is less successful, yet more athletic than Pearl's first two teams at UT.

That said, I think all coaches need "exceptional athletes" if they're going to win big.
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Oh for a heavy dose of Bradshaw effort right now...
 
#31
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UT IE 95 said:
I agree and got chastised for saying Pearl recruited the wrong players to execute his successful style in another thread.
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No, your dead right with that assumption. Its evident by the guards that are running circles around our big, taller, slower defenders.
 
#33
#33
JZVOL said:
That about sent me over the edge.

I would be willing to bet one of the walk-ons could have face guarded Meeks and done a much better job than the garbage on display last night.
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Back in my playing days I had the duty one night to blanket the other team's best (aka only) player. My coach told me to be in that guy's face all night. If he goes to the bathroom, I go to the bathroom. At the end of the night I needed to know what kind of underware he was wearing and what kind of deoderant he used.

Our guys never got that instruction to cover the hottest guy on the planet last night. Coaching failure.
 
#34
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UT IE 95 said:
How many years of college basketball experience did we have on the floor last night compared to UK?
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We lost to UK because we could not stop Meeks. We put Hopson, Tatum, Maze and Prince on him. 3 of those guys have never played in the SEC and Prince just does not play defense on anyone.

We just do not have a guard that can defend, beside Tabb and he plays point guard.
 
#35
#35
Yes, let's all start dissing Bruce Pearl so that he leaves for another gig and then see where UT basketball falls in relevance. Bunch of whiny babies!!

I'm absolutely hate the, "what have you done for me lately" attitude so many fans have these days.
 
#37
#37
UT IE 95 said:
What did you think of Hopson's first shot last night?
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don't remember it. that the airball where he was hit on the elbow to no call and then they ticky tacked Chism on the other end for nothing?

If you can tap elbows and get away with it, it's the way to defend shooters. In the NBA, it's a defensive lesson.
 
#40
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JAllen18 said:
We lost to UK because we could not stop Meeks. We put Hopson, Tatum, Maze and Prince on him. 3 of those guys have never played in the SEC and Prince just does not play defense on anyone.

We just do not have a guard that can defend, beside Tabb and he plays point guard.
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When I read this, I think you are saying it's a coaching problem rather than a "youth" problem.
 
#41
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JoeVols said:
Exactly. This "youth" excuse is absurd. Tyler, Chism, Prince, even Maze is an upperclassmen and started at PG for OU. That's actually a pretty veteran team by college bball standards.

We just need to face facts that we aren't very good. If it were a "youth" issue we should be getting better and not worse during the season.
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Smith and Chism yes. Prince just isn't very good. And Maze is essentially a sophomore. That's not an upperclassman in my opinion. You don't get really any experience playing at a CC... at least not like playing against Kansas and Kentucky. And that's also not true about getting better/worse ... the sign of a young team is inconsistency. I would not be surprised if we have another upswing and downswing before the season is over.
 
#42
#42
BigPapaVol said:
don't remember it. that the airball where he was hit on the elbow to no call and then they ticky tacked Chism on the other end for nothing?

If you can tap elbows and get away with it, it's the way to defend shooters. In the NBA, it's a defensive lesson.
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It was a foul, but I was laughing about the airball since it had just come up earlier in the day.
 
#44
#44
UT IE 95 said:
Back in my playing days I had the duty one night to blanket the other team's best (aka only) player. My coach told me to be in that guy's face all night. If he goes to the bathroom, I go to the bathroom. At the end of the night I needed to know what kind of underware he was wearing and what kind of deoderant he used.

Our guys never got that instruction to cover the hottest guy on the planet last night. Coaching failure.
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I was disappointed that Bruce Pearl did not use the "Stephen Curry" defensive game plan on Meeks in the second half. Which is, as soon as Meeks would touch the ball, 2 or 3 guys would be all over him.
 
#48
#48
The problem that I see is an extreme lack of leadership. I expected that Tyler Smith and Wayne Chism would take the reigns of leadership this year. Bottom line, it hasn't happened.

No one, on the court, holds these guys accountable when they make mistakes. Every time there is a breakdown, there is a person responsible for that breakdown. In other words, someone fell short of their responsibility.

When you have young guys running around cluelessly making the same mistakes, especially on defense, someone has to stand up and make them accountable. This is especially important when you have a young team.

Until someone steps up to the leadership role, it is going to be a long year.
 
#49
#49
Some interesting posts on this subject.

As I have stated from the start I have never been a big fan of CBP, but I have always said he can coach and motivate.

As to comparison with CPF...no comparison in many many ways, some to the plus for Pearl and some to the plus for Phil.

It is always important to remember that we are not privy to practices, chalk talks, half time adjustments, etc. which means we do not know what Pearl tried to do to counter Meeks, what was practiced, ad infinitum.

I will say I thought Meeks was having one of those rare nights when he was in the "zone" and might have scored 30 on a double team. I have played,coached, grew up in a basketball coaching family, etc. and some days some kids just have the touch, the feel, and can't be stopped...regardless of the effort.

My guess is that Pearl will get things worked out. Improvement will be noted, but it is ironic and kind of amusing to me to see all of the criticism CBP has received this season when for the last 2 he was deemed the Messiah for UT basketball.
 
#50
#50
orange+white=heaven said:
I just don't know why the Pearl trademark defense so quickly evaporated...
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Teams were doing a better and better job of breaking it last year. The more time that you have to scout it, the better prepared you are going to be.

A lot of it has to do with getting set. When UT comes out of a timeout, they do a decent job. After a made basket, though, they just don't get set to defend it and somebody usually has a breakdown.
 
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