Dont blame Peterman

[Orangeslice13]

The grounding call was BS as well.

Edit:
From now on all incomplete passes that do not make the line of scrimmage will be called grounding. The Vol receivers in the area don't matter. All that matters is the ball didn't make the line of scrimmage.


Now stop quoting me. We've covered this 10 times in this thread.

In case you missed the edit.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Butch Jones recruited Peterman too. Peterman narrowed his choices to Cincy and UT before choosing UT.

I feel confident in the staff's abilities to coach up Peterman, much like Worley has been.

Butch seems to think Peterman is the future.
I've not been impressed with either Peterman or Dobbs. I'm hoping that CBJ can coach him up because he's going to be the guy.

 

[American Pig]

World of difference between him and Worley. Justin was confident, knew where to go with the ball, got it out on time and accurately in the face of similar pressure many times. And then there was Peterman....the exact opposite.

Football players are not appliances. You can't just plug a new one in and expect equivalent results. Of course Justin is vastly more comfortable and confident. He's played about 2000% more reps in the system and has 100% of the experience. A quarterback cannot read anything when he is being pounded by blitzing linemen within two seconds of every snap.

 

[American Pig]

I'm with the OP. I don't blame Peterman at all. Personally I don't think the offense put him in a good position to succeed when he came in. The line didn't block well while he was in there. I blame the blocking for the grounding call. The playcalling seemed to change as well. They got away from the short passes and when they called it the receivers dropped them. I don't think the team was prepared for him to play at all. That needs to change. It really does

That's exactly what I saw. Two dropped short passes and one successful nice pass. I also wonder why Lane refused the hand-off and Peterman is blamed. Peterman stuck that ball in Lane's midsection and Lane never tried to wrap it up. The rest was just relentless blitzes and collapsing offensive line.

 

[1972 Grad]

Football players are not appliances. You can't just plug a new one in and expect equivalent results. Of course Justin is vastly more comfortable and confident. He's played about 2000% more reps in the system and has 100% of the experience. A quarterback cannot read anything when he is being pounded by blitzing linemen within two seconds of every snap.

On the Sports Source show this morning, they said that Peterman was either sacked or knocked down on 7 of his 10 dropbacks, and all in 3 seconds or less.

 

[KBVol]

I'm with the OP. I don't blame Peterman at all. Personally I don't think the offense put him in a good position to succeed when he came in. The line didn't block well while he was in there. I blame the blocking for the grounding call. The playcalling seemed to change as well. They got away from the short passes and when they called it the receivers dropped them. I don't think the team was prepared for him to play at all. That needs to change. It really does

I have a much different take. I saw a kid come in to a situation that was way to big for him. I seriously doubt the play calling changed at all. I just saw Peterman be unsure with where to throw the ball and as a result, hold the ball too long. As soon as Worley came back in he was quick and decisive with the ball with similar pressure that Peterman had. The contrast in how each handled similar situations was striking imo.

 

[1972 Grad]

I have a much different take. I saw a kid come in to a situation that was way to big for him. I seriously doubt the play calling changed at all. I just saw Peterman be unsure with where to throw the ball and as a result, hold the ball too long. As soon as Worley came back in he was quick and decisive with the ball with similar pressure that Peterman had. The contrast in how each handled similar situations was striking imo.

I have a different take than you. I believe that Georgia had a good def co-ord, who decided to bring the house on a qb with about 2 quarters of SEC experience, confident that he wouldn't be able to handle it. When Worley came back in, the d-co was afraid to bring the house out of fear that Worley would burn them.

As it turns out, Georgia has good coaches who did the right thing. Maybe our's could have adjusted better. As I said, Peterman was either sacked or knocked down in 3 seconds or less on 7 of his 10 dropbacks. That isn't a lot of time for an inexperienced qb.

 

[armchair]

Peterman looks insecure and indecisive. On the intentional grounding, he clearly saw the Vol open in the flat as the defender rushed at him. He should have thrown the ball. It wouldn't have gained much--but better than what what we ended up with--a bad penalty because he tried to elude the defender and couldn't. He doesn't look like a guy who is capable of beating good SEC teams.

 

[boxerpupsrcool]

If Worley(heaven forbid) has a season ending injury we're screwed.

I was thinking the same thing. however, so far he's took a beating and hasn't missed a beat except for that helmet to the elbow which probably did cost us the game. Oh well Florida should be a win. Will be nice to see muschomp writhing around on his hot seat. One has to ask how much longer he can make it as gators head coach.

 

[KBVol]

I have a different take than you. I believe that Georgia had a good def co-ord, who decided to bring the house on a qb with about 2 quarters of SEC experience, confident that he wouldn't be able to handle it. When Worley came back in, the d-co was afraid to bring the house out of fear that Worley would burn them.

As it turns out, Georgia has good coaches who did the right thing. Maybe our's could have adjusted better. As I said, Peterman was either sacked or knocked down in 3 seconds or less on 7 of his 10 dropbacks. That isn't a lot of time for an inexperienced qb.

Don't disagree that Peterman saw a lot of pressure. But so did Worley, and he handled it much, much better.

 

[MustafaRasta]

Don't disagree that Peterman saw a lot of pressure. But so did Worley, and he handled it much, much better.

Wouldn't that be expected though?

He had the reps and the practice time as well as the game experience.

I'm not saying Petermen is a world beater and yea he looked rattled.

Georgia did bring heavy blitz though and I was more surprised that our play calls on Offense did not adjust for that.

Fumble on the exchange was on Lane, NP stuck that ball right in his belly for the exchange.

 

[American Pig]

On the Sports Source show this morning, they said that Peterman was either sacked or knocked down on 7 of his 10 dropbacks, and all in 3 seconds or less.

Well there ya go! That's consistent with what we saw.
I can't imagine how any reasonable person would expect productive results. Peterman has no experience with how these plays develop, so he is naturally more cautious and holds the ball a little longer to think about the options. When you add blitzing linebackers crashing through untouched, it becomes impossible to make reads or get anything done.

 

[1972 Grad]

Don't disagree that Peterman saw a lot of pressure. But so did Worley, and he handled it much, much better.

He ( Worley ) should handle it better. Peterman has only played maybe 3 quarters or less in an SEC game, and possibly one quarter in mop up duty against somebody like Ga. State or Montana State, or W. Ky or somebody, where he handed off the ball to run out the clock. I don't think that you can simulate what he faced Sat. on the practice field.

 

[BeecherVol]

On the Sports Source show this morning, they said that Peterman was either sacked or knocked down on 7 of his 10 dropbacks, and all in 3 seconds or less.

One would think we would have figured out they were sending 7 because he was in the game and countered the pressure.
Instead we put him in a no win situation and thats exactly what happened.

 

[KBVol]

He should handle it better. Peterman has only played maybe 3 quarters or less in an SEC game, and possibly one quarter in mop up duty against somebody like Ga. State or Montana State, or W. Ky or somebody, where he handed off the ball to run out the clock. I don't think that you can simulate what he faced Sat. on the practice field.

Truth is, if I hadn't witnessed Peterman's half of football vs Florida last year, I'd probably have a fully different view of his play yesterday. But I did see it, and it's seered in my brain for all eternity.

 

[American Pig]

I have a much different take. I saw a kid come in to a situation that was way to big for him. I seriously doubt the play calling changed at all. I just saw Peterman be unsure with where to throw the ball and as a result, hold the ball too long. As soon as Worley came back in he was quick and decisive with the ball with similar pressure that Peterman had. The contrast in how each handled similar situations was striking imo.

You saw a kid come in to an impossible situation with no experience or feel for how these plays develop. Naturally, he will be more cautious making reads. He had zero time to make reads or do anything because Georgia brought the house after him on every down, the O-line evaporated, and Bajakian didn't adjust properly. Peterman never had a chance.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

On the Sports Source show this morning, they said that Peterman was either sacked or knocked down on 7 of his 10 dropbacks, and all in 3 seconds or less.

Wow. For the record, I don't blame Peterman at all and still feel that we haven't seen him in a favorable situation yet to effectively judge him as a QB.

 

[govols/cc]

You saw a kid come in to an impossible situation with no experience or feel for how these plays develop. Naturally, he will be more cautious making reads. He had zero time to make reads or do anything because Georgia brought the house after him on every down, the O-line evaporated, and Bajakian didn't adjust properly. Peterman never had a chance.

He looked just as good as he did last year when he started a game.

 

[MustafaRasta]

Truth is, if I hadn't witnessed Peterman's half of football vs Florida last year, I'd probably have a fully different view of his play yesterday. But I did see it, and it's seered in my brain for all eternity.

You gotta "snap and clear" brutha.

 

[92volalum]

It is all about learning.

Okla game, Worley fumbled. Croom missed a sure touchdown and we lost the game.

UGA game. We gave up two fumbles and we lost the game.


OUR OPPONENTS ARE (NOT) BEATING US. WE ARE CAUSING OURSELVES TO LOSE THE GAMES BY OUR OWN MISTAKES.......

Eliminate the mistakes and we will win!!!!!

True n with a small adjustment to play calling we continue some critical drives also..

 

[volinbama256]

Other than that peterman looked solid

Waht you talking bout willis!?

 

[govols/cc]

Waht you talking bout willis!?

Sarcasm

 

[KBVol]

You gotta "snap and clear" brutha.

I can't be the only cat on here with PTSD after that Peterman debacle in last year's Florida game. Kid's a hard worker, has a great attitude, shows great resiliency (guarantee you Butch loves him for this), and by all accounts is a great teammate and practice player. But when the lights come on ......

 

[KBVol]

You saw a kid come in to an impossible situation with no experience or feel for how these plays develop. Naturally, he will be more cautious making reads. He had zero time to make reads or do anything because Georgia brought the house after him on every down, the O-line evaporated, and Bajakian didn't adjust properly. Peterman never had a chance.

Why was it an impossible situation? Worley was getting blitzed and pressured behind the same poor OL as Peterman, not only yesterday, but in the Oklahoma game, too. This is big boy football and Peterman's our backup qb. He has to be poised and ready to go....according to how he practices it sure seems the coaches think he will be. Also, the notion that Bajakian just left him hung out to dry with his play calling is just silly to me. I saw two UT QBs getting pressured yesterday. Worley got rid of the ball quickly and on time while Peterman held the ball a count longer which let the pressure effect him much more .....that's why Justin is the starter and Nathan is his backup.

 

[American Pig]

I can't be the only cat on here with PTSD after that Peterman debacle in last year's Florida game. Kid's a hard worker, has a great attitude, shows great resiliency (guarantee you Butch loves him for this), and by all accounts is a great teammate and practice player. But when the lights come on ......

Peterman was thrown into the Florida game much the same way - and broke his finger as he was ravaged by relentless Florida blitzes. The 'debacle' began after he broke the finger and tried to play through it.

Peterman was a highly rated four star QB coming out of high school. He didn't earn that rating by choking when the lights came on. There has to be a better way to develop him than throwing him in cold to the SEC dogs to be pummeled after the starter gets knocked out by the same dogs.