Emmanuel Negedu has been CLEARED to play again

#101
#101
The_Orange_Pearl said:
I don't see why this is so hard for some people to understand... Just because a doctor says Negedu can play doesn't mean Pearl has to agree it to it.

I love Negedu and if Pearl wants him to play, cool. If not, then I'm with Bruce. Pearl's decision > doctors and fans opinions. Negedu can play... Just not with the Vols unless Pearl changes his mind

It's really not that hard to understand and Pearl shouldn't be getting flack for his decision. I wouldn't want to watch him collapse after I made the decision to put him out on the floor. I also wouldn't want to subject the team to watching him die if the worst case scenario happened. F that...

If this makes Pearl feel more comfortable then I don't know who anyone thinks they are to tell him what to do. Not to mention, if Negedu died, it might ruin his career. If you had a business that involved physical activity, would you want to hire someone with a pace maker? If something happens, you're getting sued and your business is going under.

To add to this... a friend I grew up with had to get a pacemaker when he was like 15. At the age of 17, I remember we were taking a test and he got caught cheating. He get so nervous and worked up that he ended up on the floor unconscious. An ambulance was called and a defibrillator was used. So yeah... I wouldn't want to be responsible with making the decision to play Negedu. Who cares if the doctor says it's okay. Pearl is free to make his own choices.
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If a doctor says he is 100% good to go, there is no reason to not let him back on the team.
 
#102
#102
Is this what he has?

With athletes ICDs can be a particularly thorny subject. According to Dr. Mark Estes, an electrophysiologist and director of the New England Cardiac Arrhythmia Center, ICDs are not made to withstand vigorous activity, so athletes who have them are generally advised not to participate in intense sports. Some athletes, though, opt to ignore that advice. Last year, Belgian soccer pro Anthony Van Loo collapsed during a game and was shocked back to life by his ICD. Rachel Lampert, an associate professor of medicine at Yale University runs a registry that tracks athletes -- 241 of them so far -- who participate with ICDs, in the hope of learning more about how ICDs function during sports.
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#103
Velo Vol said:
There's a slight chance he could die every time he gets in a car. Since when is life risk-free?
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Two unrelated situations. Would you drive your car 80 miles an hour on an 8 hour road trip knowing that there was a slight defect that could cause you to wreck and potentially die?
 
#104
#104
kidbourbon said:
This really isn't that complicated. Negedu gets clearance from a doctor, maybe a second doctor, maybe a third doctor. UT should insist that at least two of those doctors are not affiliated with the University.

And then even after all that, UT doesn't allow him to play until he signs a waiver of liability that protects the University from a lawsuit filed by or on behalf of Negedu.

The doctors can be sued for malpractice all day. But if the University takes the above steps, they are okay.
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Yep. That's my point.
 
#105
#105
The_Orange_Pearl said:
I don't see why this is so hard for some people to understand... Just because a doctor says Negedu can play doesn't mean Pearl has to agree it to it.

I love Negedu and if Pearl wants him to play, cool. If not, then I'm with Bruce. Pearl's decision > doctors and fans opinions. Negedu can play... Just not with the Vols unless Pearl changes his mind

It's really not that hard to understand and Pearl shouldn't be getting flack for his decision. I wouldn't want to watch him collapse after I made the decision to put him out on the floor. I also wouldn't want to subject the team to watching him die if the worst case scenario happened. F that...

If this makes Pearl feel more comfortable then I don't know who anyone thinks they are to tell him what to do. Not to mention, if Negedu died, it might ruin his career. If you had a business that involved physical activity, would you want to hire someone with a pace maker? If something happens, you're getting sued and your business is going under.

To add to this... a friend I grew up with had to get a pacemaker when he was like 15. At the age of 17, I remember we were taking a test and he got caught cheating. He get so nervous and worked up that he ended up on the floor unconscious. An ambulance was called and a defibrillator was used. So yeah... I wouldn't want to be responsible with making the decision to play Negedu. Who cares if the doctor says it's okay. Pearl is free to make his own choices.
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You are absolutely on target. Other folks seem more concerned about his possible contributions to the team than his life. Some are just living in fantasy land on this issue.
 
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#107
alumvol08 said:
Two unrelated situations. Would you drive your car 80 miles an hour on an 8 hour road trip knowing that there was a slight defect that could cause you to wreck and potentially die?
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So you're saying most cars are made perfect with no defects?
 
#109
#109
Bassmanbruno said:
So you're saying most cars are made perfect with no defects?
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No. However, when you know of an obvious defect it could be negligent to just drive across the country. The point was "driving a car is risky so it is okay to take a risk and play basketball" is not a good comparison in this situation when you are talking about a player that has had a major issue with his heart and is wanting to return and play basketball for a top program in a major conference.
 
#110
#110
alumvol08 said:
No. However, when you know of an obvious defect it could be negligent to just drive across the country. The point was "driving a car is risky so it is okay to take a risk and play basketball" is not a good comparison in this situation when you are talking about a player that has had a major issue with his heart and is wanting to return and play basketball for a top program in a major conference.
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So, you're saying a pacemaker is a defect....no way.
 
#111
#111
No, what he is saying is if you were aware of a life threating defect, would you just ignore it and risk death? These responses are getting to be absurd.
 
#112
#112
BasketvolsFan said:
No, what he is saying is if you were aware of a life threating defect, would you just ignore it and risk death? These responses are getting to be absurd.
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Negedu needs to quit being a wimp; using the fact that he was dead for a few minutes in Pratt Pavillion and now the fact that he has a pacemaker to keep him from playing ball is just being a pansy.
 
#113
#113
You are right LawVol, why is there even any discussion about his playing? He had already let the team down by not playing this year. Why let a little life threating situation keep you off the basketball court?
 
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#117
LawVol13 said:
Negedu needs to quit being a wimp; using the fact that he was dead for a few minutes in Pratt Pavillion and now the fact that he has a pacemaker to keep him from playing ball is just being a pansy.
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Agree. Geesh, I played with a swollen spleen and liver. E-Man will be fine. :p
 
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#118
#118
alumvol08 said:
There is a difference between not living in fear and just being a moron asking for your heart to explode. We aren't talking about some phobia of heights, it's a heart. You can't exactly will yourself around a heart condition. Again, if all the doctors say he's 100% fine then I don't see a problem. However, if there is just a slight chance he could die then it's not worth it for anyone.
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You do realize there is a chance your heart will stop today. Are you going to limit your activity based on that risk?
 
#119
#119
UT IE 95 said:
You do realize there is a chance your heart will stop today. Are you going to limit your activity based on that risk?
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Who do you think has a better chance of that happening, someone whose heart has quit previously and now has a pacemaker or someone with no heart problems? Stupid comparison.
 
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#120
UT IE 95 said:
You do realize there is a chance your heart will stop today. Are you going to limit your activity based on that risk?
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There is a major difference in not engaging in activity if you don't know you have a problem and doing the same thing when you are aware of a potential life threating condition. Why don't you give up this stupid argument. If you jump in front of a train, you are much more likely to die than standing away from the train and waiting for it to pass.
 
#121
#121
UT IE 95 said:
You do realize there is a chance your heart will stop today. Are you going to limit your activity based on that risk?
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I don't think it is so hard to understand this. Yes, there are risks everywhere. There is always going to be a risk that you could die or something could happen. However, when you have had a heart attack, technically died, and have a pace maker placed in your chest there is an increased risk of death that is not shared with everyone else that do not have these defects in society. To act like Negedu's risk is less than the majority of people is idiotic and short sighted.
I never said there are not risks in the world. I just think it is not a valid comparison to compare Negedu's situation to the risks of a person that does not have this heart condition.
 
#122
#122
The_Orange_Pearl said:
I don't see why this is so hard for some people to understand... Just because a doctor says Negedu can play doesn't mean Pearl has to agree it to it.

I love Negedu and if Pearl wants him to play, cool. If not, then I'm with Bruce. Pearl's decision > doctors and fans opinions. Negedu can play... Just not with the Vols unless Pearl changes his mind

It's really not that hard to understand and Pearl shouldn't be getting flack for his decision. I wouldn't want to watch him collapse after I made the decision to put him out on the floor. I also wouldn't want to subject the team to watching him die if the worst case scenario happened. F that...

If this makes Pearl feel more comfortable then I don't know who anyone thinks they are to tell him what to do. Not to mention, if Negedu died, it might ruin his career. If you had a business that involved physical activity, would you want to hire someone with a pace maker? If something happens, you're getting sued and your business is going under.

To add to this... a friend I grew up with had to get a pacemaker when he was like 15. At the age of 17, I remember we were taking a test and he got caught cheating. He get so nervous and worked up that he ended up on the floor unconscious. An ambulance was called and a defibrillator was used. So yeah... I wouldn't want to be responsible with making the decision to play Negedu. Who cares if the doctor says it's okay. Pearl is free to make his own choices.
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What?! You're using a story about a friend cheating to somehow tie to E? Seriously?

So let's say Pearl tells him no to playing at UT. He goes to Pine Tree State and collapses and dies on the court because they have no staff and no facilities. Pearl now lives with the decision to send the young man away from a school with the staff and facilities to save him - which they had already demonstrated once.

Yeah, that sounds much better from a clear conscious position.
 
#123
#123
UT IE 95 said:
What?! You're using a story about a friend cheating to somehow tie to E? Seriously?

So let's say Pearl tells him no to playing at UT. He goes to Pine Tree State and collapses and dies on the court because they have no staff and no facilities. Pearl now lives with the decision to send the young man away from a school with the staff and facilities to save him - which they had already demonstrated once.

Yeah, that sounds much better from a clear conscious position.
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So, Pearl should let him play in anticipation of him collapsing again just because we would be in better position to save him? Wow, I guess this would be admitting that he is at a greater risk of this happening than me and you. What about that.
 
#125
#125
LawVol13 said:
Who do you think has a better chance of that happening, someone whose heart has quit previously and now has a pacemaker or someone with no heart problems? Stupid comparison.
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I know he's had full medical treatment on his heart and a specialist is staking his career on clearing him to play. Have you have a cardiologist clear you recently?
 
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