ESD? Do you dig it?

Do you like the Early Signing Day?

  • Yes gives the kids the chance to get into the school they want and get the process over with.

    Votes: 160 57.8%

  • No it's boring & coaching changes put the kids at a disadvantage if they are pressured to sign early

    Votes: 75 27.1%

  • Whatever baby yoda thinks because I am a slave to the disney machine

    Votes: 42 15.2%
  • Total voters
    277
#26
#26
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drvenner said:
I was originally all for it because it let some kids be finished with the process earlier, but after having viewed it a couple of years, I think it does put the athletes at a little disadvantage because of potential coaching changes. I know players commit to the school, technically, and not the coaches, but we all know that the coaches have a huge influence on that decision.
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That's probably why more players will go back to waiting for February and esd will be more for players that are absolutely sure. Having the option is good but more players will realize the consequences and it will balance out.
 
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#28
#28
I would prefer doing away with ESD. Just have NSD in February, but if any kids decide they want to go ahead and sign early then let them.
 
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#29
#29
I think lil nickie wanted esd, and lil nickie got what he wanted.
Does bammer sign 25 this year or does lil nickie have another loophole we don't know about yet?
 
#30
#30
I think there's a lot of pros to ESD:

1. Coaches are able to "lock in" a percentage of their class, and then have time to look for "backup plans" if it doesn't go their way. It feels like recruiting is much less "scramble to get your guy" nowadays. I think that is a good thing in terms of giving coaches time to really evaluate who they want, and set boards. You may have a surprise in December, but you have a month and some change to try to evaluate and find other options. I like that.

2. It does allow for student-athletes to be able to shut down their recruitment and enjoy the holidays without having to worry about a million texts/phone calls/visits.

3. It allows for late bloomers who have developed well in their senior season to get their tapes evaluated after ESD, and have a better shot at landing in a good spot for NSD. If your season ended in December, and coaches weren't on you until this year, you may not have gotten a fair shot. I feel like what we see most is that those who sign on ESD have been pursued since early high school. The period between ESD accounts for a lot of "diamond in the rough" type players whose senior seasons propelled them further.

4. Having more of the class filled out, coaches are able to focus on bowl prep, and on evaluating and recruiting future classes. I feel like this can only be a good thing.
However, there are also cons:

1. For schools that are making coaching changes, ESD really puts them at a disadvantage. Ole Miss/Mizzou/Arkansas for example, have 13 days to put a coach in place, and even then, there are position coaches and coordinators that have to be filled. This makes the relationship building difficult, and will likely set those schools back a year.

2. It does put pressure on the student athletes to make decisions sooner, for fear of missing the boat. This could cause a lot more rushed decisions, and eventually more transfers down the road.

3. For teams whose trajectories are skepticized (such as Tennessee at the moment), ESD happens before a bowl performance. What happens if Tennessee draws Michigan or Penn State, and suddenly blows them out? Would that make a recruiting difference? It might, but it only would matter for those not signed. (Of course, the inverse of this is true as well)

4. I feel like it makes National Signing Day less special, personally. I used to treat National Signing Day as a holiday, but now, it's the Early Signing Day that has been the "holiday." You can look at it as two Christmases, but I do feel like it takes away some from the kids who wait.
 
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#31
#31
I'd like to sign an entire top class early (ESD), focus on the bowl/playoffs after that, and get as many new guys early-enrolled as possible.
 
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#32
#32
Pane di mais said:
I'd like to sign an entire top class early (ESD), focus on the bowl/playoffs after that, and get as many new guys early-enrolled as possible.
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I think that would be the dream scenario, and that's what most people push for. I know Drew Hughes (director of recruiting) said they are definitely pushing to sign most of the class in December. I don't see why you would want to postpone a player signing, UNLESS you think you have someone better who may wait until February. In that case, you run the risk of losing them both. But, the reward could outweigh if it pays off.
 
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#33
TNHopeful505 said:
I think that would be the dream scenario, and that's what most people push for. I know Drew Hughes (director of recruiting) said they are definitely pushing to sign most of the class in December. I don't see why you would want to postpone a player signing, UNLESS you think you have someone better who may wait until February. In that case, you run the risk of losing them both. But, the reward could outweigh if it pays off.
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That's why lil Nickie wanted it, "back when bammer used to be in the playoffs."™
Edit: I so hope bammer gets beat in a bowl, I don't care if they are playing the Ayotollah.
 
#36
#36
Crazy Ivan said:
I would prefer doing away with ESD. Just have NSD in February, but if any kids decide they want to go ahead and sign early then let them.
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If a player has decided before Feb then he should be able to use an option to declare the recruitment over as someone else here suggested. If any teams try to contact him after that then it should a recruiting violation. Kids have enough pressure on them already. It may eliminate some of the grandstanding a few players do during their recruitment. I would also create a minimum age a recruit can be offered, maybe 16 years. Offering someone in the 8th grade is ridiculous.
 
#38
#38
I voted yes. It gives the coaches a chance to focus their efforts on other recruits and not have to worry about the ones that are ready to get the process over with.
 
#39
#39
When I first saw this poll, I thought I could take ESD or leave it, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized that I miss the way NSD used to feel like a holiday. The early period is spread out over a few days, and NSD in Feb has become very anticlimactic. It’s just not quite as exciting to me as it was when everything went down on the same day.

I also think the potential is there for a lot of kids to get shafted with coaching changes in the new system, and it does seem to be more stressful on the coaches.
 
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#43
#43
bignewt said:
I voted No, I like the traditional signing day. This early stuff sucks.
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I like it because it allows the kids to get to school faster if they graduate early. Faster into the strength and conditioning and puts them ahead of their peers.... although if you are a freak like Henry TooToo then it doesn’t matter when you start the school or foosball......
 
#44
#44
cHiZzLeVOL said:
I like it because it allows the kids to get to school faster if they graduate early. Faster into the strength and conditioning and puts them ahead of their peers.... although if you are a freak like Henry TooToo then it doesn’t matter when you start the school or foosball......
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You could EE before ESD started.
 
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#48
#48
I can't be objective about it because it has hurt us badly. It seems to favor maintenance of the status quo, which is obviously not good when you're looking to improve your talent level. I would like to have seen FSU make a splash hire in November just to see whether a really big name could rack it up on ESD.
 
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