ESPN Bubble Watch

[bleedingTNorange]

The biggest thing hurting ya'lls resume right now is a lack of road wins. Selection committee has really been putting emphasis on them the past year or two.

If we want to make the dance we need to close strong...we close strong and we'll be adding some road wins.

 

[TigerFan386]

If we want to make the dance we need to close strong...we close strong and we'll be adding some road wins.

Winning solves everything. I think for ya'll to have a better than average shot at the tourney you need 22 wins. 5-1 the rest of the way only losing to UF, and two wins in the conf tourney. 20 to 21 wins and you're on the bubble, but they can find reasons to not include you.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Winning solves everything. I think for ya'll to have a better than average shot at the tourney you need 22 wins. 5-1 the rest of the way only losing to UF, and two wins in the conf tourney. 20 to 21 wins and you're on the bubble, but they can find reasons to not include you.

No team from a major conference has been left out with the kind of RPI you're talking

 

[TigerFan386]

No team from a major conference has been left out with the kind of RPI you're talking

You talk way too much about RPI. Not really used that heavily in the selection process any more. I say anything below 22 wins and ya'll are left out.

 

[utknate]

20-11 5 quality wins... id say win 2 game in the sec tourney if we split the fla and mizz games. that way we are 21-11, but hell might as well aim for the conferce championship take down..

Not that it matters that much but I think everyone always forgets to put the tourney loss when trying to predict our overall record.

Go 4-1 and win 2 in the tourney puts us at 21-12.

 

[TigerFan386]

Tennessee Volunteers RPI Breakdown - NCAA Basketball RPI Breakdown - CBSSports.com

Since you like RPI there is a link. No top 25 rpi wins, 2-2 top 50 rpi wins (both at home and one against Kentucky which at 47 could easily fall out of the top 50 rpi), 3-5 against top 100 rpi, and a home loss to a rpi 119 team. That is 5-9 against top 100 rpi teams, with 4 of the 5 wins at home. You only have one more chance to get a top 100 rpi road win at Texas A&M.

 

[whobethis16]

Tennessee Volunteers RPI Breakdown - NCAA Basketball RPI Breakdown - CBSSports.com

Since you like RPI there is a link. No top 25 rpi wins, 2-2 top 50 rpi wins (both at home and one against Kentucky which at 47 could easily fall out of the top 50 rpi), 3-5 against top 100 rpi, and a home loss to a rpi 119 team. That is 5-9 against top 100 rpi teams, with 4 of the 5 wins at home.

Let's see UKs, and they are on the bubble, at this point. 0-3 vs top 25, 0-1 vs top 50, 4-4 vs top 100, and 7-0 vs both top 150 and 200. I'll take 5-9 vs 4-8, especially with those top 50 wins.

 

[leftfield34]

Tennessee Volunteers RPI Breakdown - NCAA Basketball RPI Breakdown - CBSSports.com

Since you like RPI there is a link. No top 25 rpi wins, 2-2 top 50 rpi wins (both at home and one against Kentucky which at 47 could easily fall out of the top 50 rpi), 3-5 against top 100 rpi, and a home loss to a rpi 119 team. That is 5-9 against top 100 rpi teams, with 4 of the 5 wins at home.

And?

Thats not that bad a resume if you compare to a lot of teams expected to make it.

 

[TigerFan386]

Let's see UKs, and they are on the bubble, at this point. 0-3 vs top 25, 0-1 vs top 50, 4-4 vs top 100, and 7-0 vs both top 150 and 200. I'll take 5-9 vs 4-8, especially with those top 50 wins.

Compare your team to Kentucky if you want, but I don't know why you would. I don't see them making the tournament now.

 

[whobethis16]

Tennessee Volunteers RPI Breakdown - NCAA Basketball RPI Breakdown - CBSSports.com

Since you like RPI there is a link. No top 25 rpi wins, 2-2 top 50 rpi wins (both at home and one against Kentucky which at 47 could easily fall out of the top 50 rpi), 3-5 against top 100 rpi, and a home loss to a rpi 119 team. That is 5-9 against top 100 rpi teams, with 4 of the 5 wins at home. You only have one more chance to get a top 100 rpi road win at Texas A&M.

And Tiger High only has 1 top 50 RPI wins.

 

[whobethis16]

Compare your team to Kentucky if you want, but I don't know why you would. I don't see them making the tournament now.

If it ended today, they should be in. That's the argument. Whether they'll be in on Selection Sunday is tbd. But Tennessee will more likely improve their resume and get in.

 

[UTVolWarrior98]

Yep, those Georgetown and Virginia losses on the road are KILLING our resume.

 

[TigerFan386]

And Tiger High only has 1 top 50 RPI wins.

Yep, but luckily Memphis is 23-3 and on a 17 game winning streak with no bad losses, not 15-10. Not here to argue about who's better, just saying objectively that right now it will be tough to put Tennessee in. I think they need to hit 22 wins to give themselves a better than fair shot.

 

[TigerFan386]

If it ended today, they should be in. That's the argument. Whether they'll be in on Selection Sunday is tbd. But Tennessee will more likely improve their resume and get in.

As of right now I say Kentucky is not in, and most of the bracketologists agree with that.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

You talk way too much about RPI. Not really used that heavily in the selection process any more. I say anything below 22 wins and ya'll are left out.

Now I know not to take anything you say seriously anymore.

When from a major conference you can almost look at the RPI and say in or our, most of the time without looking at anything else. Your RPI is below 50 and you're from a major conference you're in, bottom line.

Name me 1 team that is from a major conference, has had a sub 50 RPI and was left out, I'll wait...Any scenario in which tennnessee finishes with 21 wins their RPI is in the 40s.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Tennessee Volunteers RPI Breakdown - NCAA Basketball RPI Breakdown - CBSSports.com

Since you like RPI there is a link. No top 25 rpi wins, 2-2 top 50 rpi wins (both at home and one against Kentucky which at 47 could easily fall out of the top 50 rpi), 3-5 against top 100 rpi, and a home loss to a rpi 119 team. That is 5-9 against top 100 rpi teams, with 4 of the 5 wins at home. You only have one more chance to get a top 100 rpi road win at Texas A&M.

Why don't you compare that to other bubble teams. No bubble team has a flawless resume.

Here's the thing, you're spouting off numbers as of today. As of today, I don't think you'd find anyone who would say Tennessee has a NCAAT resume if the season ended today. What people are saying is this is a NCAAT resume team if they close 4-1.

So...add a Florida loss at home, 3 road wins with one being against a top 100, and a home win against top 50 Missouri. Now add that to our current resume and tell me what ya get...

 

[TigerFan386]

Now I know not to take anything you say seriously anymore.

When from a major conference you can almost look at the RPI and say in or our, most of the time without looking at anything else. Your RPI is below 50 and you're from a major conference you're in, bottom line.

Name me 1 team that is from a major conference, has had a sub 50 RPI and was left out, I'll wait...Any scenario in which tennnessee finishes with 21 wins their RPI is in the 40s.

Argue all you want, I'm not trying to start any fights. Just saying, I think if UT wins 22 games they are in. If they only win 21 or less (assuming a loss to Florida), they are on the bubble but do not get selected. That's my opinion, I'm going to stick with it, and we will see what happens.

 

[SJAVol32]

Argue all you want, I'm not trying to start any fights. Just saying, I think if UT wins 22 games they are in. If they only win 21 or less (assuming a loss to Florida), they are on the bubble but do not get selected. That's my opinion, I'm going to stick with it, and we will see what happens.

I've never seen a team with 21 wins and some quality wins and no bad loses not get in so 20 and up we are fine. Whether you're starting to pick a fight or not you look like you are. We have went over numbers just like you have. You think 22 we think 20 and up

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Argue all you want, I'm not trying to start any fights. Just saying, I think if UT wins 22 games they are in. If they only win 21 or less (assuming a loss to Florida), they are on the bubble but do not get selected. That's my opinion, I'm going to stick with it, and we will see what happens.

That's fine, and I'm ok with opinions, just curious as to how yours is based. I can say in my opinion Indiana struggles down the stretch and doesn't make the dance, but my opinion would be moronic.

All I'm saying is that given any scenario in which UT finishes with 21 wins their RPI is in the 40s. In the history of the NCAA since the expansion to 64 and now 68 teams there hasn't been a team from a major conference have an RPI in the 40s and be left out.

That's where my opinion comes from.

 

[calban]

Sorry but a loss Saturday doesn't make this tema CBI bound.

Martin's achilles is 'The Road'.
18-41 lifetime doesn't inspire much confidence.

 

[TigerFan386]

I've never seen a team with 21 wins and some quality wins and no bad loses not get in so 20 and up we are fine. Whether you're starting to pick a fight or not you look like you are. We have went over numbers just like you have. You think 22 we think 20 and up

Fair enough, we will find out.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Martin's achilles is 'The Road'.
18-41 lifetime doesn't inspire much confidence.

He just won 2 on the road. You can say they were weak opponents, but not like auburn is a juggernaut.

At this point we are NIT locks (not that that's something to be proud of), the NIT committe looks at attendance which is why they jumped on us last year, they'll do the same this year if given the chance.

 

[TigerFan386]

That's fine, and I'm ok with opinions, just curious as to how yours is based. I can say in my opinion Indiana struggles down the stretch and doesn't make the dance, but my opinion would be moronic.

All I'm saying is that given any scenario in which UT finishes with 21 wins their RPI is in the 40s. In the history of the NCAA since the expansion to 64 and now 68 teams there hasn't been a team from a major conference have an RPI in the 40s and be left out.

That's where my opinion comes from.

I see your opinion, and it is reasonable. Just from everything I've heard from coaches, writers, talk show hosts they keep saying the selection committee has told them they are placing a lot of importance on road wins. The tournament isn't played at home, so they want teams to show them they can win on the road. Since UT has been bad on the road, that is why in my opinion they need a few extra wins to get in.

 

[zansdad]

That's fine, and I'm ok with opinions, just curious as to how yours is based. I can say in my opinion Indiana struggles down the stretch and doesn't make the dance, but my opinion would be moronic.

All I'm saying is that given any scenario in which UT finishes with 21 wins their RPI is in the 40s. In the history of the NCAA since the expansion to 64 and now 68 teams there hasn't been a team from a major conference have an RPI in the 40s and be left out.

That's where my opinion comes from.

Actually there has been at least one team from a major conference with that high an RPI be left out. Florida St in 2007. RPI of 37 and were 20-12. Though they did go 4-6 to close the season.
Seed Madness

 

[zansdad]

I see your opinion, and it is reasonable. Just from everything I've heard from coaches, writers, talk show hosts they keep saying the selection committee has told them they are placing a lot of importance on road wins. The tournament isn't played at home, so they want teams to show them they can win on the road. Since UT has been bad on the road, that is why in my opinion they need a few extra wins to get in.

Tournament isn't played on the road either so that's failed logic.