ESPN the lost Network

[VolsSportsFan]

You’re not going to win in here, dude. That should be clear by now.

I'll be ok knowing that I didn't "win" in an anonymous message board discussion. But I doubt the same can be said for you.

 

[C-south]

I’ve always liked Herbstreet, but that was performance was pathetic.

Self preservation.

 

[CA_Vol]

What exactly do you want them to report on, then? The way sports leagues and teams has dealt with the pandemic has been the only real story in sports since March. How many people can be in the stands, how teams are dealing with it, how many players test positive, that is all newsworthy. It stinks, but it is the story in sports. It would be irresponsible for them to ignore it.
What exactly do you want them to report on, then? The way sports leagues and teams has dealt with the pandemic has been the only real story in sports since March. How many people can be in the stands, our teams are dealing with it, how many players test positive, that is all newsworthy. It stinks, but it is the story in sports. It would be irresponsible for them to ignore it.

As for the social protests, do you expect them to ignore a movement where a high percentage of the athletes in the sports they cover participate? If an NFL player gives a press conference and half of the questions he has asked deal with social justice, are they just supposed to omit that part of the question and answer session?

In yesterday’s college football games, two different coaching staffs wore shirts in support of social justice instead of their usual coaching attire. Are they supposed to ignore that? Not show that sideline?

I agree that many of us go to sports to escape the 24 hour news cycle on something else. But I think we have to understand that when many of the athletes we cheer for come to the court or the playing field, they can’t escape it. And if it’s happening, it’s ESPN’s responsibility to cover it, even if it makes some of us uncomfortable.

Come on, guy. You act like this started recently. It did not. ESPN has been in the political activism game for a while now. Let’s not pretend otherwise.

 

[CR-vol]

What exactly do you want them to report on, then? The way sports leagues and teams has dealt with the pandemic has been the only real story in sports since March. How many people can be in the stands, how teams are dealing with it, how many players test positive, that is all newsworthy. It stinks, but it is the story in sports. It would be irresponsible for them to ignore it.
What exactly do you want them to report on, then? The way sports leagues and teams has dealt with the pandemic has been the only real story in sports since March. How many people can be in the stands, our teams are dealing with it, how many players test positive, that is all newsworthy. It stinks, but it is the story in sports. It would be irresponsible for them to ignore it.

As for the social protests, do you expect them to ignore a movement where a high percentage of the athletes in the sports they cover participate? If an NFL player gives a press conference and half of the questions he has asked deal with social justice, are they just supposed to omit that part of the question and answer session?

In yesterday’s college football games, two different coaching staffs wore shirts in support of social justice instead of their usual coaching attire. Are they supposed to ignore that? Not show that sideline?

I agree that many of us go to sports to escape the 24 hour news cycle on something else. But I think we have to understand that when many of the athletes we cheer for come to the court or the playing field, they can’t escape it. And if it’s happening, it’s ESPN’s responsibility to cover it, even if it makes some of us uncomfortable.

You're wrong. We can escape it. It's called the off button. Like I said in another post. The NFL was playing to empty stadiums before covid hit and it was because no-one cares what millionaire pampered prima donnas think about politics.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

You're wrong. We can escape it. It's called the off button. Like I said in another post. The NFL was playing to empty stadiums before covid hit and it was because no-one cares what millionaire pamperes prima donnas think about politics.

Lol except you obviously do.

 

[CA_Vol]

Self preservation.

Exactly right. It comes from the same place as the coaches who “marched” with their players. Check a box as an outward “don’t hurt me” sign.

 

[Stoerner Fumbles]

Sure. They openly embrace the cynical criticism of critical theory on a daily basis (examples include proclaiming its racist to hire Steve Nash, racist for the cowboys to sign a white backup QB, racism preventing any black who is a free agent for being signed). Critical theory is directly from the Frankfort school and a part of the “Long March Through the Institutions”. A long march that is blatantly evident to anyone who has watched ESPN lately or read statements recently from the APA. The President of the American Psychological Association just released a statement claiming capitalism and white supremacy are the disease in America.

ESPN seems to intentionally seek out anchors who take part in the disingenuous cynicism of critical theory.

On top of that the openly embrace a radical Marxist organizations in BLM (if you read their website they use the term comrade multiple times and even openly refer to themselves as “trained Marxists”)

At first I thought you we’re presenting this gibberish as an argument, but then saw you sneakily said “Frankfort”. You’re obviously a brilliant double agent for the far left who referenced a town in Kentucky instead of Germany to throw me off your trail. Well done sir.

 

[CR-vol]

Lol except you obviously do.

I don't watch the NFL anymore LOL

 

[volfanjustin]

ESPN has turned into CNN. I saw the video yesterday of that little punk herbie crying like a little b!tch. I tried watching Memphis VS Ark St last night but turned it after the 2 morons broke into their white guilt speeches.
Sports all around is on a very slippery edge here because if they keep on the road they are on they are going to realize we have overvalued them for decades. They need us way more than we need them

 

[TJSVOLS]

So you admit you don't like others having different opinions?

Not when we are trying to watch a game to get away from all this stuff, what part of this don't you understand.

 

[BreatheUT]

Glad to see you and others are realizing this. It's been this way for 15 years now. The only time I can stomach this Marxist propaganda machine is if a live game is on. They are just more brazen and WOKE now than ever.

Apparently it took me a while. I was blind but now I see. I just can't turn it on that garbage anymore. They have definitely taken sports away. They think the average person has to watch their network. That they have no choice therefore they can force feed us the liberal BS. They are sadly mistaken. People aren't watching and everyone is at home.

Nobody wants to get their wings, nachos, beer and soda then turn around and be force fed lectures about political divisions and their subjective opinions.

 

[Devo182]

“The American left is centered compared to the rest of the world” is what you said. The lefts views are actually extreme compared to most of the world. None of the **** that’s been happening here the last couple of months would have happened in Russia, Japan, Sweden, China, etc...and if it would have, it would have not lasted this long. The left wants to burn this country down.

Apparently you haven't been paying attention to Hong Kong or Taiwan for decades or oppression of Muslims in China or Russia or Chechnya, or...the lost goes on.

And he is right insofar as Europe. Our left is center-right in most of Europe. "The world" is probably too broad to speak on.

 

[TJSVOLS]

If you turned on a game and they are discussing issues of race and you got angry.....just saying.

Oh so if I don't want to hear all this stuff during a game I'm a racist. You are such a snowflake

 

[ajvol01]

Many of those “unimportant bits” you refer to are the same areas of the country that were furious about the abolition of slavery, the Civil Rights Movement, educational integration and so on. I remember the contempt for the sanitation workers strike in Memphis, and the march at Selma. “How dare they leave trash in the streets.”, “How dare they block a public bridge”. I remember how many people refused to watch Walter Kronkite and CBS based on their coverage, and editorial opinions regarding civil rights. “If he’s going to interrupt the news with this nonsense, I just won’t watch it”. That seems absurd in retrospect. Saban and Pruitt marched with their players. Coaches support protest. It’s cynical to say the sole reason is economic. They do so because they know the kids and their families and see their suffering. I don’t think Herbstreit was putting on a show. I think he sits beside black friends and colleagues and athletes all day every day. He’s sick of seeing them suffer too. The whole concept of a protest is that it has to be an imposition, or it won’t work. It’s not new to athletics either. Jim Brown, Muhammad Ali, Tommie Smith and John Carlos all took much stronger and controversial stands than Kaepernick, or Herbstreit. I’m sorry it makes you shift around in your recliner, and think about things you don’t want to think about, but that is exactly what it’s designed to do.

Speaking of Jim Brown

 

[BreatheUT]

If ratings continue to tank after things normalize Disney will force changes. Disney has always supported a lot of causes but when it's all said and done they are not a charity. There's already done rumblings of changes coming in the movie division

Disney Purging Star Wars, Marvel Woke Agenda

Woke is based in socialism, communism and Marxism and is a complete failure unless a state takeover.

Buyers beware!

 

[Vol8188]

At first I thought you we’re presenting this gibberish as an argument, but then saw you sneakily said “Frankfort”. You’re obviously a brilliant double agent for the far left who referenced a town in Kentucky instead of Germany to throw me off your trail. Well done sir.

Lol there you go. Why address an actual argument when you can simply search for spelling and/or grammatical errors.

Troll on. You’re clearly not capable of engaging

 

[Vol8188]

Self preservation.

I’ve missed the Herb thing. What happened?

 

[BreatheUT]

the mute button is your best friend

The change channel button on the remote is better.

At this point it's probably better to just avoid it all together. They've already revealed thenselves. That is why they are trying to package their SJW channels as packages with Hulu, etc. Nobody really wants it by itself. Packaging it will keep them alive and they can claim subscriptions as a moral victory.

 

[Devo182]

Come on, guy. You act like this started recently. It did not. ESPN has been in the political activism game for a while now. Let’s not pretend otherwise.

So what candidates are they pushing? What political debate are they supporting? All I see is a health pandemic and worry about minority lives, neither of which is political unless you fall under the "obsessed with politics, so everything is political" umbrella. If you think everything is politically based, then you will see politics everywhere.

That's on you to separate health and lives from political divisions. Many of us see unity and support, not division. But if everything is "us vs them" tribalism, then that is the lens you will see through.

 

[BreatheUT]

When you have all the “little people” say forget this, it can ripple. When fans aren’t in the stands at pro games and they aren’t watching on TV, eventually that has to hit player salaries. Since they seem to be the ones with the loudest voices, let’s see what happens when teams can’t afford to pay them what they’re used to. I’m sure they’ll all call for unity then. They seem to forget that when the fans leave, it’s over.

They are mostly fake too. They get Woke every 4 years around election time. They want you to vote for the leftist Democrat. That is their only agenda. They don't say a word during the Obama administration even as people of color struggled from the same causes they want to blame on the current POTUS that they are attempting to openly sabotage.

 

[C-south]

I’ve missed the Herb thing. What happened?

I just saw the headline where he broke down in tears over “social injustice”.

 

[Vol8188]

I just saw the headline where he broke down in tears over “social injustice”.

Lol I’ll have to check that out. This has been an insane time to live. A rapist who resisted arrest and reached into his vehicle while ignoring the demands of officers, is not anyone I have tears to waste on.

 

[Stoerner Fumbles]

Lol there you go. Why address an actual argument when you can simply search for spelling and/or grammatical errors.

Troll on. You’re clearly not capable of engaging

I think you mean usage not grammar. As for an argument, you didn’t make one.

 

[Vol8188]

I think you mean usage not grammar. As for an argument, you didn’t make one.

I mean what I said. In this case your attack was on spelling (usage if it makes you happy), but in general it’s all apart of the same pathetic tactic.

 

[Stoerner Fumbles]

I mean what I said. In this case your attack was on spelling (usage if it makes you happy), but in general it’s all apart of the same pathetic tactic.

Again, no argument was made. If you want to pretend like a hyper-capitalist media conglomerate is a leftist organization, you’re going to have to do better than just saying it’s so. Individual people on that network presented their opinions on the subject of a human rights issue. People on the same network made counter arguments. Those arguments drive ad revenue more than leftist revolution. Some of these topics are worthy of hearing both sides. The Nash here is White privilege, AND a good hire if it works, and there are precedents that black coaches like Jason Kidd have been hired without coaching experience. The bottom line is there is nothing about these interactions that have anything to do with the two movements you mention. If you think Disney is Marxist, you obviously haven’t been tracking their bottom line or their pay policies for hourly workers. It’s just a silly position.