Even More Obamacare Follies

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#3,851
Okay so the CNN article shows that it was 85%; went to 82% during the recession and is now 89% - so we bumped up 4% points.

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volinbham said:
Okay so the CNN article shows that it was 85%; went to 82% during the recession and is now 89% - so we bumped up 4% points.

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Did you use the new math formula being discussed in the "It's Happening" thread to arrive at your number?
 
#3,853
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hog88 said:
1) Instead of mandates they could have offered tax incentives to business to provide health insurance. Make it more attractive for smaller companies to offer the benefit.

2) Allow individuals to deduct a portion of their premiums.

Two alternative starting points for you to consider.
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1) completely agree with and I've wanted this for years. However, because it makes sense and is fairly simple it would never fly. No idea about the cost, but the ease alone makes it attractive. Still think this should be done with or without the ACA
 
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volinbham said:
A major chunk of the newly insured are the result of Medicaid expansion - that could have been done without the ACA.

Laughable too to call this a "remarkable result". A remake of the entire health insurance system + Medicaid expansion + major subsidy program yields a reduction in the uninsured by less than 50%? Bravo, Bravo.
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It's just disgusting as hell . I swear if I wouldn't get arrested and had the chance I'd break the fingers and hands of every dim wit democrat that signed that piece of trash
 
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Gramps said:
Did you use the new math formula being discussed in the "It's Happening" thread to arrive at your number?
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Actually my math was problematic. The pre-recession number was sub 15% without insurance and the new number is 11.9% - the difference is really more like 3%

To get that 3% we've rewritten the whole insurance system. People lost plans and doctors they liked. Premiums for those in the individual market have gone up considerably and can only be offset by taking on larger deductibles and/or getting government subsidies.

Hard to argue all that was necessary to change the number from the upper 14s to just under 12.
 
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hog88 said:
I'd have been good with giving the deduction to the employee and even encouraging companies to drop group plans. Let the individual buy their insurance ala carte.
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That's too much reform for our system to handle, apparently. At least not at one time.
 
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#3,859
@kksheld: GAO's own study found 96% of time Medicare customer service reps provide wrong answer when Drs call asking how to bill Medicare properly.
 
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#3,872
RE: Increases in healthcare spending

When is this a good thing?

Global cancer drug spending hits $100 billion in 2014: IMS Health | Reuters

Forty-five new cancer drugs were launched between 2010 and 2014. But patients in no country had access in 2014 to all 37 launched between 2009 and 2013. The broadest access was seen in the United States, Germany and Britain, while fewer than half the new drugs were available in South Korea, Spain or Japan, the report said.

Five-year survival rates for many cancers are rising, the report found, with new immunotherapies, such as Merck's Keytruda and Bristol's Opdivo, holding the promise of improved survival with fewer side effects.

"$100 billion is a significant proportion of total spending on medicines and total healthcare costs, but it's part of the healthcare system that's producing great results and bringing great benefit to patients," Aitken said.
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