Everyone should realize we are witnessing a revolution in football

#76
#76
What's he doin? I don't know, nor does anyone else unless they've worked with him.

Ummm recruiting great, running the ball well, playing excellent d, and being a great coach. I figured it out! I'm revolutionary!
 
#77
#77
i thought for a moment I somehow went to the wrong forum somehow. I can't believe this garbage is on our site. I guess someone needs to start one on how great lane kiffin is also. saban is a great coach no doubt but he's also in my opinion been the recipient of some luck. like for example when we missed 2 short fg's in 09 that would've won the game for us. The went on to win the nc that year. had we made 1 of those 2 attempts they might have never won the championship. and those attempts weren't blocked. our kicker kicked those kicks directly into the line. saban has also benefited some from our own ineptitude the last few years. we haven't beaten them obviously and that makes it difficult for us to recruit the players they want. they've also been lucky in that they've avoided major injuries to most of their key players and haven't had many issues with players getting in trouble. and again thats not because saban gets so much respect...we you recruit these kids you never know what they will ultimately become. we've ended up with a bunch that get up here and decide to be gangsters. so in conclusion...they obviously have a great coaching staff and work tirelessly, but they've also had a lot of lucky bounces in recent years. eventually they wont get all the fortune they've seen recently and it'll be some other coach thats the greatest thing ever
 
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#78
#78
Ummm recruiting great, running the ball well, playing excellent d, and being a great coach. I figured it out! I'm revolutionary!

You should write a book. There are thousands of coaches out there that would love to learn the secret.
 
#81
#81
Silly thread. The only model that Saban has is winning. His formula is old-school--strong running attack, strong defense. And that's cool, but you gotta have good talent to make it work, because the offensive is predictable. Half if not more of the programs in the country run some version of a spread--and they aren't going to change because the spread gives programs with less than great talent a chance to beat the traditional powers--it's the equivalent of the three-point shot in college basketball. One of the reasons UT has been crappy for a decade is that we have stayed with old-school offensive schemes without having great talent, and so the offense in more than a few years as suxed. This year we have some big-play talent, so that will help, but we don't run the ball or block the run nearly as well as bama. But that's ok. We kicked their ass for nine years straight because we could throw the ball and they were old school without the talent they've had under Saban, who is a great coach. I think we've got a good chance to beat the pink elephants this year.
 
#82
#82
You should write a book. There are thousands of coaches out there that would love to learn the secret.

And you should write a book about how something is revolutionary with no explanation? It'll be a short book, I'm sure the kids will love it! Shouldn't you be in a closet with a saban poster? Use your tears for lubrication, when they lose to us this year. GBO
 
#84
#84
Ok I want to apologize for my part in this. I was on VolNation for awhile before posting, and swore I would never get involved in such mindless drivel. Obviously this could be argued to no end, with neither side ever caving. So I respectfully step out of this conversation. There are beer and women waiting.
 
#85
#85
And you should write a book about how something is revolutionary with no explanation? It'll be a short book, I'm sure the kids will love it! Shouldn't you be in a closet with a saban poster? Use your tears for lubrication, when they lose to us this year. GBO

I don't want to fight you bro. We just have differing view points. You want to make this about a word rather than the point. No problem, maybe I'm wrong.
 
#86
#86
Ok I want to apologize for my part in this. I was on VolNation for awhile before posting, and swore I would never get involved in such mindless drivel. Obviously this could be argued to no end, with neither side ever caving. So I respectfully step out of this conversation. There are beer and women waiting.

There you go, enjoy your night. FWIW, I think we have a chance, slim but a chance, to beat them too. GBO.
 
#87
#87
I don't want to fight you bro. We just have differing view points. You want to make this about a word rather than the point. No problem, maybe I'm wrong.

Post right above this one friend. Have a good night.
 
#89
#89
hey alabuba,


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#91
#91
Everyone will adjust just like they always do. Remember way back when Urban Meyer changed everything about the game with his spread?

Even Meyer's offense is just a re-canned modern version of the option/single wing game. It just replaced a FB, 2 TEs, and a RB with a bunch of WRs that block, a speedy RB that's actually an old slot/flanker type WR, and a QB that's really a FB. It's different but not unique in that the same basic QB (...er glorified FB) reads apply. No one had defended the option on a regular basis for years. That's one reason it worked so well, and instead of a double TE wad, it spread the D out.
 
#92
#92
There's really nothing to change about football...you just need the best athletes to execute the plays as a unit.
 
#93
#93
Here's a far fetched question:

In a football game full of 5star clones at each position. Both teams have the exact same players at every position, but one team chooses to be a predominantly downhill running team and the other chooses to be a predominantly downfield passing team....same defenses. Who wins?
 
#95
#95
Here's a far fetched question:

In a football game full of 5star clones at each position. Both teams have the exact same players at every position, but one team chooses to be a predominantly downhill running team and the other chooses to be a predominantly downfield passing team....same defenses. Who wins?

No perfect answer for all different scenarios each game brings. I am partial to a team that can pound the rock. I feel if you can run effectively then later in the game that wears on the defense and they tap out mentally and physically.
 
#96
#96
While we are calling Saban a god, lets remember that he failed in the league.
It may be a tad premature, but I think Harbaugh is a better football coach.
JMHO
 
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#97
#97
Here's a far fetched question:

In a football game full of 5star clones at each position. Both teams have the exact same players at every position, but one team chooses to be a predominantly downhill running team and the other chooses to be a predominantly downfield passing team....same defenses. Who wins?

I would say the team that uses the best mix of run and pass to exploit their opponents weakest links has the advantage. But it still comes down to execution. Neylands maxims come to mind.
 
#99
#99
Tom Osborne did a pretty damn good job for Nebraska. Fyi Saban is still a douche. His statement going in to the half re enforces that. Such an angry man. Lol

He was asked a very stupid question by a very stupid reporter. Everyone knows he is single-mindedly focused on football perfection and doesn't suffer fools at all. Hard to argue with the results.
 
Howard Schnellenberger is the coach that fundamentally changed the way defense was played in college football. Jimmy Johnson learned from him. Saban has taken a page out of Tom Osborne's play book.
 

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