Everyone who wants to fire Fulmer READ THIS.

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It doesn't matter who the head coach is. What winning and losing boils down to is players making plays. They are just not executing this year. Coach Fulmer doesn't cause all the dropped passes, and fumbles. I agree that he should stick with one QB and make some personnel changes, but if the players play to the level they are supposed to, then UT is 7-0 and ranked #1 or #2 in the polls, and NO ONE is on here calling for Fulmers head.
 
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Good call. USMC hit this on another thread... it has to do with attitude and hard work. This offense has been unmotivated all year... maybe some losses will bring their egos back down.

What was Auburn's preseason rank two years ago? And what was their record at the end of the year? hmmmmmm...
 
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sort of sounds like something phil would say. fulmer has had years to hire some capable coaches and didn't do it . he needs to go.
 
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I agree. Maybe this year is a good thing after all. Maybe this will bring the players and coaches back to earth a little bit. Tennessee always gets the big head when they are picked to have a big year ('02) maybe this will be the turning point that needs to get back to being a top 5 team every year.
 
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Originally posted by rwemyss@Oct 29, 2005 11:34 PM
Good call.  USMC hit this on another thread... it has to do with attitude and hard work.  This offense has been unmotivated all year... maybe some losses will bring their egos back down.

What was Auburn's preseason rank two years ago?  And what was their record at the end of the year?  hmmmmmm...
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And what did their head coach do at season's end? fired both DC and OC. We will see what CPF does at the end of this disaster of a year. By the way Auburn beat Fulmer' team that year.
 
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I know... he also beat Alabama as the AD was flying to Louisville to interview a coach to replace him. I'm just saying, the parallels are uncanny, and this isn't the first time this has happened to a coach, certainly not the last.
 
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How many weeks in a row do players have to make the same mistakes before we demand more from the coaches?

Why are we losing to teams with MUCH less talent? How can you not blame the coaches?

You're right, Fulmer doesn't fumble the ball or commit the false start, but maybe if he put the fear of God into the players and DEMAND perfection, we'd see a better product on the field.

I agree that the players have responsibility too, but we are not getting anything out of our talent, when that happens consistently its 100% on the coaches.

How do you think this game would have played out if Spurrier was coaching the VOLS and Fulmer the 'cocks... 50-3 or so?
 
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Originally posted by smokedog#3@Oct 30, 2005 12:35 AM
sort of sounds like something phil would say.  fulmer has had years to hire some capable coaches and didn't do it .  he needs to go.
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Coaches don't make players execute on the field. I'm just tired of people always wanting to can Fulmer because UT plays bad. Do you think Georgia fans are calling for Richt's head after they lost today? NO
 
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Problem is this has been happening since 1999. RS is not capable of running this team, and the inmates have and continue to run the asylum. Sorry, but CPF has lost control, and he better get it back.

This is not the first time UT has had an embarrassing year after high hopes on his watch. He is running out of capital.
 
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How can you call players that fumble the ball away in the redzone "talented" ??? If Spurrier had been the UT coach the outcome would have been the same, the players choose to play the way they do, a coach isn't going to change that.
 
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Originally posted by utvols82@Oct 30, 2005 1:31 AM
It doesn't matter who the head coach is. What winning and losing boils down to is players making plays. They are just not executing this year. Coach Fulmer doesn't cause all the dropped passes, and fumbles. I agree that he should stick with one QB and make some personnel changes, but if the players play to the level they are supposed to, then UT is 7-0 and ranked #1 or #2 in the polls, and NO ONE is on here calling for Fulmers head.
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Then why are we paying him 2 million dollars a year for???

Because that is a really big scam if hes not responsible.
 
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Originally posted by utvols82@Oct 30, 2005 12:31 AM
It doesn't matter who the head coach is. What winning and losing boils down to is players making plays. They are just not executing this year. Coach Fulmer doesn't cause all the dropped passes, and fumbles. I agree that he should stick with one QB and make some personnel changes, but if the players play to the level they are supposed to, then UT is 7-0 and ranked #1 or #2 in the polls, and NO ONE is on here calling for Fulmers head.
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alright listen. well coached players just dont drop passes and have miscues like this team does game in and game out. sure all players are going to make mistakes from time to time but not at the level that this team does. its got to be that these players just are not fundamentally sound period.
 
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Originally posted by utvols82@Oct 30, 2005 12:31 AM
It doesn't matter who the head coach is. What winning and losing boils down to is players making plays. They are just not executing this year. Coach Fulmer doesn't cause all the dropped passes, and fumbles. I agree that he should stick with one QB and make some personnel changes, but if the players play to the level they are supposed to, then UT is 7-0 and ranked #1 or #2 in the polls, and NO ONE is on here calling for Fulmers head.
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If it doesn't matter who is the HC then fire Phil.
If Fulmer is back next year we will get more of the same. Do you think Lou Holtz would have won that game tonight? There are one hundred teams ranked higher than Fulmer's offense.
Fulmer has to go. We have a five million dollar coaching payroll and had to borrow a million to pay that this year. We are not even teaching fundamentals any more on offense. Thank God for Chavis.
 
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Originally posted by smokedog#3@Oct 30, 2005 1:46 AM
richt has won a sec championship since 98.
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The right question would be how many has he won since he took over at UGA? Or maybe how may X coach has won in his X years at X school... I think the only one you'll find hanging more than Fulmer was Spurrier at UF.
 
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Originally posted by volunteer04@Oct 30, 2005 1:46 AM
If it doesn't matter who is the HC then fire Phil.
If Fulmer is back next year we will get more of the same.  Do you think Lou Holtz would have won that game tonight?  There are one hundred teams ranked higher than Fulmer's offense.
Fulmer has to go.  We have a five million dollar coaching payroll and had to borrow a million to pay that this year.  We are not even teaching fundamentals any more on offense.  Thank God for Chavis.
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Silly me I thought Randy Sanders was the Offensive Coordinator.
 
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Originally posted by rwemyss@Oct 30, 2005 12:48 AM
The right question would be how many has he won since he took over at UGA?  Or maybe how may X coach has won in his X years at X school... I think the only one you'll find hanging more than Fulmer was Spurrier at UF.
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Give it time. Fulmer is in the process of killing his winning percentage this year, he will work on giving SEC titles away next year.
 
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Originally posted by utvols82@Oct 30, 2005 1:31 AM
It doesn't matter who the head coach is. What winning and losing boils down to is players making plays. They are just not executing this year. Coach Fulmer doesn't cause all the dropped passes, and fumbles. I agree that he should stick with one QB and make some personnel changes, but if the players play to the level they are supposed to, then UT is 7-0 and ranked #1 or #2 in the polls, and NO ONE is on here calling for Fulmers head.
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Unless you start to wonder what coaches are responsible for bringing this "talent" here in the first place. I hate to say it, but some of these players aren't and won't be what some of the coaches thought they were. It's either bad coaching or bad talent in some cases.
 
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Richt took a major step backwards today.

Interesting to bring up the winning percentage Lexvol... especially when calling to FIRE Fulmer...

So you live in Lexington? I have an aunt that went to UK, family lives in Lex, cousin that went to Lafayette and is now at UK... Are you ready for the perrenial "fire Tubby" headlines? Don't you laugh at those? If you don't you have no sense of humor... if you do, then you should notice the hypocrisy of laughing at that and then calling for Fulmer to be fired.
 
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Originally posted by rwemyss@Oct 30, 2005 12:43 AM
How can you call players that fumble the ball away in the redzone "talented"  ???  If Spurrier had been the UT coach the outcome would have been the same, the players choose to play the way they do, a coach isn't going to change that.
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Do you really believe that? You've got to be kidding. Good coaches get the most out of their players. We make the same damn mistakes week after week. Our offensive production has been in a downward spiral since the late 90s.

You don't think good coaches get more out of their players? Then explain why Spurrier owned us when talent was comparable, beating Phil 7 out of 10 times. AND, just beat us with some of the worst talent in the SEC?

Players are talented when they arrive at UT, if you argue that take it up with Athlon, Lindey's, or any national recruiting publication, etc etc.


 
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I swear to God, everyone was angry when Ole Miss fired Cutcliffe because of a bad year last year. Everyone said he was treated unfairly. Then why are the same people doing the same thing to Fulmer this year. How many coaches do you know with an .800 winning percentage have ever been fired for 1 bad year. (I know the 02 season was pretty bad but injuries caused alot of the problem.)
 
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Those pubs don't see how the players interact with each other either.

If you think just having a talented team is going to win the games, then check out what the "dream team" has done in the past few olympics... best players the NBA has to offer, and the best coach they can find. Sometimes players just don't play well together... the idea that the whole can be greater than the sum of the parts can also be put the other way... the sum of the parts isn't as great as the whole.
 
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