Everyone who wants to fire Fulmer READ THIS.

[rwemyss]

Originally posted by smokedog#3@Oct 30, 2005 1:56 AM
tubby has won the sec since 98.

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Yet in Lexington they STILL want him fired every year... odd huh?

 

[smokedog#3]

imagine if he hadn't won since 98 what would they do then.

 

[Lexvol]

Originally posted by rwemyss@Oct 30, 2005 12:55 AM
Richt took a major step backwards today.

Interesting to bring up the winning percentage Lexvol... especially when calling to FIRE Fulmer...

So you live in Lexington?  I have an aunt that went to UK, family lives in Lex, cousin that went to Lafayette and is now at UK...  Are you ready for the perrenial "fire Tubby" headlines?  Don't you laugh at those?  If you don't you have no sense of humor... if you do, then you should notice the hypocrisy of laughing at that and then calling for Fulmer to be fired.

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If Tubby ever lost 40% of the games on his schedule he would not be around to talk about it. UK is a top tier program, and they wouldn't put up with Tubby losing 40% of his games even for one season.

I happen to have one incredible sense of humor, and I am joining the media, and fans of other teams in laughing at our offensive scheme, and the brilliant coaches who bring it to life.

You cannot be a top tier program and lose 40% of your games. And if you mess around too much, even when you have a good team like Auburn last year, you can go undefeated and still get no respect.

Voters remember seasons like the one UT is having. They are losing national credibility. If you are ok with that, that is fine with me. It is not ok for me.

 

[General Jack]

Originally posted by utvols82@Oct 30, 2005 12:41 AM
Coaches don't make players execute on the field. I'm just tired of people always wanting to can Fulmer because UT plays bad. Do you think Georgia fans are calling for Richt's head after they lost today? NO

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Georgia is still in the top 10 and in the driver seat for an SECCG appearance.

We're 3-4 and going to finish below South Carolina. Our program is on a downward slide while Georgia has been the best team in the SEC East the past 3 years (we were lucky to beat them last year).

 

[rwemyss]

Originally posted by Vol 4 Life@Oct 30, 2005 2:03 AM
Georgia is still in the top 10 and in the driver seat for an SECCG appearance.

We're 3-4 and going to finish below South Carolina.  Our program is on a downward slide while Georgia has been the best team in the SEC East the past 3 years (we were lucky to beat them last year).

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If we were lucky to beat UGA last year (I won't even dispute that) AND lucky to beat UF (won't dispute that either)... you have to look at the losses to UF, 'bama, and USC as lucky for them to win those games.

 

[NCGatorBait]

Originally posted by rwemyss@Oct 30, 2005 1:55 AM
Richt took a major step backwards today.

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Richt is 1-4 against Spurrier, Zook, and Meyer..but I dont see the Dawgs calling for his head.

 

[rwemyss]

Originally posted by Lexvol@Oct 30, 2005 2:01 AM
If Tubby ever lost 40% of the games on his schedule he would not be around to talk about it.  UK is a top tier program, and they wouldn't put up with Tubby losing 40% of his games even for one season.

I happen to have one incredible sense of humor, and I am joining the media, and fans of other teams in laughing at our offensive scheme, and the brilliant coaches who bring it to life. 

You cannot be a top tier program and lose 40% of your games.  And if you mess around too much, even when you have a good team like Auburn last year, you can go undefeated and still get no respect.

Voters remember seasons like the one UT is having.  They are losing national credibility.  If you are ok with that, that is fine with me.  It is not ok for me.

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Tell that to a Nebraska team that has fallen out of the national picture because they fired a coach that lost 3 games. They went out and got a new coach, what a great year they had last year too!!!

 

[Lexvol]

Originally posted by NCGatorBait@Oct 30, 2005 1:06 AM
Richt is 1-4 against Spurrier, Zook, and Meyer..but I dont see the Dawgs calling for his head.

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If DJ were not hurt today, and GA still loses that game, you would have heard the rumblings. Just give it time.

Part of it is what you have recently experienced as well. The GA fans are just glad that Donnan and Goff are gone.

 

[utvols82]

Maybe the Chicago White Sox should fire Ozzie Guillen too? I mean, come on, they did lose 1 game in the playoffs, that's unexceptable. UT fans are like Yankee fans, they are so used to winning that when the team starts out slow, everyone wants the head coach gone.

 

[Lexvol]

Originally posted by rwemyss@Oct 30, 2005 1:07 AM
Tell that to a Nebraska team that has fallen out of the national picture because they fired a coach that lost 3 games.  They went out and got a new coach, what a great year they had last year too!!!

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Nebraska made a good fire and a bad hire, and it might take more than one hire to right the ship ala USC.

I think that UTs offensive system needs an overhaul to get it headed in the right direction. They are showing no growth or improvement, and their offensive coordinator is just not that smart.

CPF is a great recruiter, and I hope he has the guts to make the changes necessary.

 

[rwemyss]

Originally posted by Lexvol@Oct 30, 2005 2:15 AM
Nebraska made a good fire and a bad hire, and it might take more than one hire to right the ship ala USC.

I think that UTs offensive system needs an overhaul to get it headed in the right direction.  They are showing no growth or improvement, and their offensive coordinator is just not that smart.

CPF is a great recruiter, and I hope he has the guts to make the changes necessary.

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Except for the thing about firing Solich (I thought that was retarded) I agree with your view Lex. I'm not sure about changing offensive systems, but they way they practice and work together, certainly. Things that coach Fulmer can and should do.

I can understand the view of "Fulmer has to go" because of his seemingly undying loyalty to CRS. I think those times are gone now though. A new OC has to be hired that can get the job done. When it is him or you that is going to get the axe... you know.

 

[Ooltewah Vol]

Originally posted by utvols82@Oct 30, 2005 12:31 AM
It doesn't matter who the head coach is. What winning and losing boils down to is players making plays. They are just not executing this year. Coach Fulmer doesn't cause all the dropped passes, and fumbles. I agree that he should stick with one QB and make some personnel changes, but if the players play to the level they are supposed to, then UT is 7-0 and ranked #1 or #2 in the polls, and NO ONE is on here calling for Fulmers head.

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You make a goodpoint, but he and the coaches are in charge of the team being ready to play. Phile himself said tonight "we all take responsibility and it starts with me" Well lets see what he changes, and if it is nothing then it should be HIM. One thing is for sure we have NO Offence. He was the "OC" now it's Randy and we continue to fall deeper and deeper in offence production. So it's change other things or Change Phil,

 

[rwemyss]

Originally posted by Ooltewah Vol@Oct 30, 2005 2:30 AM
You make a goodpoint, but he and the coaches are in charge of the team being ready to play. Phile himself said tonight "we all take responsibility and it starts with me" Well lets see what he changes, and if it is nothing then it should be HIM. One thing is for sure we have NO Offence. He was the "OC" now it's Randy and we continue to fall deeper and deeper in offence production. So it's change other things or Change Phil,

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Please children... when you're calling for a coach with a near 80% winning percentage to be fired, at least try and LOOK like you aren't in preschool. Spell it with me now... O-F-F-E-N-S-E.

 

[OWB]

Originally posted by rwemyss@Oct 30, 2005 2:35 AM
Please children... when you're calling for a coach with a near 80% winning percentage to be fired, at least try and LOOK like you aren't in preschool.  Spell it with me now... O-F-F-E-N-S-E.

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Well while we are at it let's tackle the spelling of lose. We might LOSE the game. Not loose....LOSE...... :dunno: :crazy:

 

[rwemyss]

Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Oct 30, 2005 2:41 AM
Well while we are at it let's tackle the spelling of lose.  We might LOSE the game.  Not loose....LOSE...... :dunno:  :crazy:

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:lol: :lolabove: :lol:

I'm sure LIO has been choking on these, but is trying to avoid them.

 

[utvols82]

I CHANGE MY MIND. Fulmer should be fired. That's right. Fulmer should be fired. We should either hire Rich Brooks from Kentucky because he has taken UK from a bottom of the SEC team and turned them into a national powerhouse.
Or hire Lou Holtz, think about it, he won what like 5 or 6 NC's when he was with South Carolina right. I personally talked to Mike Hamilton a few minutes ago and he was looking up Idaho's HC's phone #, because, hey, he could sure as heck outcoach Phil anyday, right fairweathers?

 

[OWB]

I'm sure that Joe Pa has a couple of good years left too.

 

[UTFanforever]

Originally posted by utvols82@Oct 30, 2005 12:31 AM
It doesn't matter who the head coach is. What winning and losing boils down to is players making plays. They are just not executing this year. Coach Fulmer doesn't cause all the dropped passes, and fumbles. I agree that he should stick with one QB and make some personnel changes, but if the players play to the level they are supposed to, then UT is 7-0 and ranked #1 or #2 in the polls, and NO ONE is on here calling for Fulmers head.

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I agree somewhat but our players aren't making a million dollars a year to make decisions. Secondly, they are young and expect wise decisions from our coaching staff, something that hasn't happened in 2 or more years now. I don't believe it is fair to blame the players. In case we've forgotten, we have had the top recruiting classes the past 3 years so talent isn't really an issue. But I do agree with your point about attitude adjustments. If they don't produce, they should transfer because we don't babysit anymore.

 

[JasonCajun]

Originally posted by utvols82@Oct 30, 2005 1:46 AM
I CHANGE MY MIND. Fulmer should be fired. That's right.  Fulmer should be fired. We should either hire Rich Brooks from Kentucky because he has taken UK from a bottom of the SEC team and turned them into a national powerhouse.
Or hire Lou Holtz, think about it, he won what like 5 or 6 NC's when he was with South Carolina right. I personally talked to Mike Hamilton a few minutes ago and he was looking up Idaho's HC's phone #, because, hey, he could sure as heck outcoach Phil anyday, right fairweathers?

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I am happy to see Fulmer and Sander's family posting on the board now, because those are the only rational people that can be defending them right now.

If you are happy going 6-5, then maybe you should root for Vandy.

Here is the deal, sheep. Fulmer gets paid in excess of $2million a year to produce. Can you tell me when the last SEC championship that he won is? What is his record against Mark Richt, Steve Spurrier, and Tommy Tubberville? You can thank your lucky stars that Nick Saban left LSU, or we would be 2-5 right now. Imagine that! Now will you answer to that or just continue to spout the same crap about how we are bandwagon fans?

No, this is not just about this year. This is about underachieving, poor discipline, and a general decline of the program since 98. Fulmer has rested on that 98 NC for so long and has let this horrible show happen.

 

[cibai]

I love how half the people in this thread seem to think that a coach is only responsible for Satarday. Spurrier would have had the same result last night you say... Maybye if he showed up in Knoxville at 7:45 gameday, MAYBYE (I doubt it), but I have a hard time believing that spurrier would have showed up with the same team fulmer did at 7:45 if he had been there sunday to friday. Coaching isnt a once a week job, and poor execution 7 games in a row is not just poor execution but just plain bad coaching. The energy has been driaining from this coach staff since 98. Who doesnt think we would be better with an Urban Meyer or Weiss right now, someone fresh with ALOT more energy and motivation than our current staff has.

 

[orange blood]

Originally posted by utvols82@Oct 30, 2005 12:31 AM
It doesn't matter who the head coach is. What winning and losing boils down to is players making plays. They are just not executing this year. Coach Fulmer doesn't cause all the dropped passes, and fumbles. I agree that he should stick with one QB and make some personnel changes, but if the players play to the level they are supposed to, then UT is 7-0 and ranked #1 or #2 in the polls, and NO ONE is on here calling for Fulmers head.

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I agree utvols82. Although I feel all the emotions and dissapointment that everyone else does. It seems kinda like we've been cursed this year. The fumble on the goal line last night was from the extra effort made. I think this has been the case alot this year. Even though I feel bad saying this, I do think we need to stick with Ainge the remainder of the season. He was really close to being deadly last night and there was some poor efforts in catching some of his passes. All a defense has to do with Clausen in there is just to play a "Red Zone" defense.

 

[rwemyss]

Originally posted by JasonCajun@Oct 30, 2005 9:19 AM
I am happy to see Fulmer and Sander's family posting on the board now, because those are the only rational people that can be defending them right now.

If you are happy going 6-5, then maybe you should root for Vandy.

Here is the deal, sheep. Fulmer gets paid in excess of $2million a year to produce. Can you tell me when the last SEC championship that he won is? What is his record against Mark Richt, Steve Spurrier, and Tommy Tubberville? You can thank your lucky stars that Nick Saban left LSU, or we would be 2-5 right now. Imagine that! Now will you answer to that or just continue to spout the same crap about how we are bandwagon fans?

No, this is not just about this year. This is about underachieving, poor discipline, and a general decline of the program since 98. Fulmer has rested on that 98 NC for so long and has let this horrible show happen.

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There are people on this board defending RANDY SANDERS? Are you kidding me? I haven't seen a single post defending that guy. I defend CPF because I don't believe he's the problem, I think RS is. I don't see what you see from Fulmer over his HC career to determine that he's the problem, unless it is the fact that he has been so loyal to RS for the past few years.

 

[OWB]

Originally posted by rwemyss@Oct 30, 2005 6:25 PM
There are people on this board defending RANDY SANDERS?  Are you kidding me?  I haven't seen a single post defending that guy.

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They're here, they just don't usually come out after a loss.

 

[rwemyss]

I did it last year, but not this year. The exceptions have become the rule this year, and it has to change.

 

[JasonCajun]

Originally posted by rwemyss@Oct 30, 2005 6:25 PM
I don't see what you see from Fulmer over his HC career to determine that he's the problem, unless it is the fact that he has been so loyal to RS for the past few years.

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That is exactly it, he has been so loyal to this guy when obviously our offense has been going downhill since RS' promotion.

Now you are fond of using a car analogy. Let me use this one for you. Do you take a car to the mechanic when the engine starts acting funny or do you wait until the whole darn thing blows up?