Fan negativity

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loservol said:
If the team I root for is not annihilateling the other team, or at the very least being competitive, it is not fun to watch.
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No, it was not fun to watch. I hated the beatdown that took place at OSU. But that doesn’t mean we start eating our own, and that’s exactly what S.Sparks is/was doing regarding Spyre that has been spread on this very board.

And a few posts up, I posted a screenshot regarding that very situation that Austin Price answered on VQ. Like it or not, it’s being used.
 
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CABVOL said:
No one enjoyed that. That doesn’t mean that those lacking emotional intelligence/maturity should just blow up the entire thing because they weren’t pleased with their ‘experience’. What a temper tantrum.
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I came from a different generation, where it was all about winning and doing what needs to be done to be competitive. I don't consider anyone a real fan, if they are not passionate about wanting to see the Vols win a championship and are just complacent about making the playoffs.

When small teams like SMU and Indiana also makes it to the playoffs, losing in the first round is not some major accomplishment to be celebrating and beating your chest over.

2nd place is just the first loser.
 
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Voltopia said:
Not that I’m going to quibble over the impact of online negativity on public perception, but citing an AtoZ article is about as convincing as ripping an explosively moist fart to support one’s position.
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I gave you a like based on the use of “quibble” and the “explosively moist fart” metaphor. Well done.
 
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loservol said:
I came from a different generation, where it was all about winning and doing what needs to be done to be competitive. I don't consider anyone a real fan, if they are not passionate about wanting to see the Vols win a championship and are just complacent about making the playoffs.

When small teams like SMU and Indiana also makes it to the playoffs, losing in the first round is not some major accomplishment to be celebrating and beating your chest over.

2nd place is just the first loser.
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Understand, Reece.
 
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Golfprovol said:
If the fans are arguing with portal players online....that is just stupid
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The most stupid thing regarding this thread is how some act like UT is the only team with Nega fans.

Nega Buckeys have been all over social media wanting their HC fired ,

Nega Gumps were happy to fire Nick Saban for not winning every game and a Natty for a couple years.

Somehow only NegaVols affect recruiting and keeping players.
 
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MrVolton said:
When it leaks that QB1 and Fam have a meeting and want answers to the same questions everyone else has about the WR and OL, hard not to expect fans to take that and run with it.

Especially when one of the entire underperforming position groups in question enters the portal.

And after quasi-media outlets publish charts that show our NIL being outspent by not only the other competitors in the sec, but also the likes of Indiana and Virginia.

And after somebody posts other insider info casting Spyre in a negative light.

It’s hard not to question these things, and fans of any program in the country that give two $&¡7s would do the same.
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Knock off the 🫏💩.
 
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Golfprovol said:
Are the schools allowed to promote the NIL since they are not supposed to be involved? I can see people being skeptical of Sprye, since there really isn't a ton of information out there about what they actually do and operate.
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FFS.
 
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CABVOL said:
Recruiting Forum regular and known insider @KingVFL is on record stating that the Spyre BS started by S.Sparks and spread by others on this very board is already being used against us by other teams. So, yes, things like that do matter.

Be part of the problem or be a part of the solution.
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Spyre might want to do something about it then. Fans can question all they want, especially when the entire operation is done in the dark and it’s a constant begging effort to donate donate donate!

Anyone in their right mind would want to know where their money is going and how it’s being used - maybe not the finite details - but enough to feel like we are getting what we pay for and it’s being run by good stewards. The AD audits it, sure, but to what standard? What are they using as their measuring stick? Standard corporate and financial auditing questions.
 
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Golfprovol said:
Are the schools allowed to promote the NIL since they are not supposed to be involved? I can see people being skeptical of Sprye, since there really isn't a ton of information out there about what they actually do and operate.
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BanditVol said:
No. Only a small subset with unreasonable expectations, a greatly exagerated sense of their own importance, and a sociopathic lack of regard for the program itself, and their pathetic need to feel self esteem through a team because they are losers in real life.

Its a minority, but they are very vocal, as the article points out.

Should a small set of a whiny ass sugar titty crybabies ruin it for the rest of us? I say not.
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The orange highlight is the only thing I'm not sure is true. Lol.
 
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Listen up friends.....I myself am having difficulty adjusting to this new "world" of college football and the NIL money thing. I really hope we as a fan base can take a deep breath and let things settle a bit before being too quick to judge anyone whether fan or portal player. I suspect strongly the NCAA almost invited out of spite this anarchy by choosing NOT to build in reasonable guide-rails when they as a governing body could have done so. Now the ugly genie is out of the bottle. Our previous adoration of players who were VFL in our hearts will have to be patient until things stabilized.....and perhaps someone such as a "college commissioner" with credibility and a fair-handed plan can reign in the out-of-control current environment. I do believe the sport will not survive the notion of having to recruit the same player 4-6 times and renegotiate NIL every stinking time a portal opens. So I am trying to be patient with all of this. But make no mistake.....our beloved sport is at big-time risk to morph into something we cannot and will not love or support.
 
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"From 2008 to 2020 the Vols beat Florida once, they beat Alabama zero times, they never won more than nine games in a year, and they had eight losing seasons.

In four years under Heupel, the Vols have four wins against Alabama and Florida, the program's had four straight winning seasons, they have an Orange Bowl win against Clemson, a Citrus Bowl win against Iowa, and a playoff appearance."

This is reality, not opinion..Being negative over 1 loss to Ohio State seems downright ignorant IMHO..I guess some folks can't stand success but for the life of me I can't understand why..Oh well...Carry on
 
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loservol said:
I came from a different generation, where it was all about winning and doing what needs to be done to be competitive. I don't consider anyone a real fan, if they are not passionate about wanting to see the Vols win a championship and are just complacent about making the playoffs.

When small teams like SMU and Indiana also makes it to the playoffs, losing in the first round is not some major accomplishment to be celebrating and beating your chest over.

2nd place is just the first loser.
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Immature people who throw tantrums when things don't go their way does not constitute a "generation"... Thank God.

Fandom is a bit like gambling, sometimes you win sometimes you lose. As a fan you have no control over what happens on the field, despite what you might think. Learn to live with it. Find harmony...
 
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The Original Fade said:
Funny how fan negativity is blamed during hard times, but fan positivity is never given credit when things are good.
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That's not entirely accurate. I mean, how much time do you feel like wasting this morning on this? Lol.

Sorry for tl;dr I hate long posts like this.

I'm in no way agreeing 100% with either side of this, but there's some truth and complete BS on both sides.

I don't believe what is said on Volnation makes a difference to recruiting decisions either way, but I believe it's stupid for people here to say "the kids don't give 2 chits what's said here". One reason is they dont have a clue what those kids think. Another is if I tell you I don't give 2 chits what you think, you're gonna ask me " then why are you here?". Lol.

There's not as much negative stupidity and vitriol spewed here as some seem to suggest, it just seems that way because the same negative complaints, legitimate or not, gets regurgitated over and over and over in 7 out of 10 threads. Thats why it seems like whining and seems so loud. It's a message board.

I think booing is similar in the way that it's not as big of a deal as some make it to be, but to me it's stupid to boo your own team. When has booing ever changed anything except how the person that does the booing felt? Do the kids give 2 chits that they're getting booed? I don't know, but if not, why do it? If they do, do you think they like it?

Anyway, blah blah blah.

Some of the same posters here say fans don't make a difference either way but also say fans are the reason football exists. Both can be true. Both can be used by the same poster depending on which point he's trying to make. Gotta love it.

Heupel thanks the fans regularly.
 
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loservol said:
Spyre employee? Nothing wrong with knowing how donated money is being spent. The way they are being defensive, makes it look like they have something to hide.
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Bingo. Ive been involved with private company audits that are more transparent than this thing even dreams of being.

To me, it seems like the folks in the NIL scene are starting to feel the temperature rise and people are asking questions. Free ride and fun times are at risk for some. This is not specific to UT, but any college or university involved in NIL.
 
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m1al said:
Immature people who throw tantrums when things don't go their way does not constitute a "generation"... Thank God.

Fandom is a bit like gambling, sometimes you win sometimes you lose. As a fan you have no control over what happens on the field, despite what you might think. Learn to live with it. Find harmony...
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Except a contingent here will be the first to tell you that you “have to donate if you want us to be competitive!”. We can’t have it both ways.

I say this as both a donor and as someone who is a member of the VC. It’s absolutely fair for any stakeholder (which is what we are) to question how things are being run and whether we are getting the most out of what we are putting in. Right now, there is very little coming back as to how things are being run. UTAD audits the system, but there is very little showing the governance (is there any?) or what standards they are basing their audit on.

A question everyone should ask when they are donating to anything - where is the money going and how is it being used? Out of every dollar, how much is going to the stated purpose and how much goes to other things like administrative overhead/facilities/etc? The website says “90% of every dollar goes to the athletes” - is that accurate? What is the percentage breakdown of athletes? Are we too top heavy? Who even makes these decisions and determinations?
 
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Zach Ragan is no different to me than anyone who posts on here. Just bc he has AtoZ attached to his name doesn’t make his opinions superior. If players are too weak to handle a couple screaming fanatics, what are they gonna do when real adversity strikes?
 
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When all else fails blame the fans. I guess if Tennessee was to ever get their collective to the 20+ million these other teams are spending it will be because of the fans. None of these cheap azz donors or companies are ever going to step up.
 
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loservol said:
I came from a different generation, where it was all about winning and doing what needs to be done to be competitive. I don't consider anyone a real fan, if they are not passionate about wanting to see the Vols win a championship and are just complacent about making the playoffs.

When small teams like SMU and Indiana also makes it to the playoffs, losing in the first round is not some major accomplishment to be celebrating and beating your chest over.

2nd place is just the first loser.
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