Fast Break Offense?

[OWB]

that was probably straight from your Fulmer Apologist Guidebook.

You've got me all wrong okla. I've been pretty disappointed with Fulmer as of late, I just choose not cry about it. There's a lot to be said for moving on with life. I'm certainly not content with where the program is right now, but I can't fix it either..

I think he still deserves a little more time to try and get things on track and he's going to have that time whether any of you like or not. I think this past season was a well deserved wake up call for him. It will be interesting to see how things really are in the next couple of seasons.

 

[RealVol]

I have said for years, Fulmer lacks the innovative ability & confidence to expand UT's offensive scheme to a level it needs to be. I also think he is too hard headed to make substantial changes. It appears he's like most women & appears to be reluctant to hire a good staff fearing they may outshine him. Even though last years Staff shake-up was years late & I feel will prove to be far short of what is really needed. I believe his time will be shortened beyond what most believe if there aren't SUBSTANTIAL improvements this season.

If we lose to uf, LSU, AL, UGA, SC & heaven forbid some UT lay down w other opponents, that would make for an ugly season. If one or two of those games get ugly for UT it may be just the thing MH feels to show Fulmer's not competing in the SEC, who knows. I certainly don't know MH's mo, but evidently he's not afraid to pull the trigger when he sees fit, i.e. the Buzz boot.

If you don't think Foley's record at uf doesn't rub other AD's in the butt, they probably don't need an AD's job.

So if UT has a "fast break" offense, they better use it and it better work.


Name one other NCAA FB Team that plays 8 out of 11 games in their own State?

 

[WA_Vol]

You've got me all wrong okla. I've been pretty disappointed with Fulmer as of late, I just choose not cry about it. There's a lot to be said for moving on with life. I'm certainly not content with where the program is right now, but I can't fix it either..

I think he still deserves a little more time to try and get things on track and he's going to have that time whether any of you like or not. I think this past season was a well deserved wake up call for him. It will be interesting to see how things really are in the next couple of seasons.

I agree that Fulmer is going to here the next couple of years, his contract is too expensive to buy out-one of the hazards of throwing money at your coach. But everyone remained silent like you suggest, we would probably have the same group of coaches we had last years, instead of Cutcliffe as an O.C.

By the way, I don't really see how you saying "you choose not cry about it" is making you look more mature. I figured you had a good cry when Peterson got fired last year.

 

[volfan2024]

You've got me all wrong okla. I've been pretty disappointed with Fulmer as of late, I just choose not cry about it. There's a lot to be said for moving on with life. I'm certainly not content with where the program is right now, but I can't fix it either..

I think he still deserves a little more time to try and get things on track and he's going to have that time whether any of you like or not. I think this past season was a well deserved wake up call for him. It will be interesting to see how things really are in the next couple of seasons.

I agree with your view OWB. That said, mediocrity has got to be a thing of the past for the Vols future.

 

[jakez4ut]

Name one other NCAA FB Team that plays 8 out of 11 games in their own State?

ok:
UGA plays 7 in GA
UF plays 9 in FL
USC plays 8 in SC
LSU plays 8 in LA
AUB plays 9 in AL
Bama plays 8 in AL

have a nice day.

 

[jakez4ut]

ok:
UGA plays 7 in GA
UF plays 9 in FL
USC plays 8 in SC
LSU plays 8 in LA
AUB plays 9 in AL
Bama plays 8 in AL

have a nice day.

just so thre's no misunderstanding:
UGA:
Home games: WKU, UAB, Col, TN, Vandy, MSU
GA away games: Ga Tech
ttl 7
UF:
Home games: USM, UCF, KY, Bama, LSU, GA(jax), USC, WCU,
FL away games: FSU
ttl: 9
USC:
home games: GA, Wofford, UFLA, AUB, TN, ARK, MTSU
sc away games: @ clemson
LSU:
home games: ULL, AZ, TUL, MSU, KY, FSU, Bama, Ole Miss
AUB:
home games: Wsh. st, LSU, Buf, ARK, UF, TUL, ASU, UGA
AL away games: @ AL
Bama:
home games: HW, vandy, ULM, Duke, Ole miss, UFLI, MSU, Auburn

 

[RealVol]

j4


Thanks, Geez that seems like a lot of inbreeding to me.

I'd be willing to bet uf would trade the UM & FSU games for Memphis & Vandy.

Thanks again.

Keep it real.

 

[jakez4ut]

j4
Thanks, Geez that seems like a lot of inbreeding to me.

I'd be willing to bet uf would trade the UM & FSU games for Memphis & Vandy.

Thanks again.

Keep it real.

UF doesn't play UM (Miami?) this year...and i doubt they would would trade anything (playing FSU always keeps them in the running for any prospects considering the Noles)...and they do play vandy.

UF does play Central Florida, KY, Vandy and Western Carolina.

 

[OWB]

I figured you had a good cry when Peterson got fired last year.

Are you crazy?? Do you pay attention at all? I NEVER liked Buzz Peterson as a coach. :disappointed:

 

[WA_Vol]

Are you crazy?? Do you pay attention at all? I NEVER liked Buzz Peterson as a coach. :disappointed:

I just thought it was natural, that you would be supportive of an underachieving coach.

 

[WA_Vol]

I have said for years, Fulmer lacks the innovative ability & confidence to expand UT's offensive scheme to a level it needs to be. I also think he is too hard headed to make substantial changes. It appears he's like most women & appears to be reluctant to hire a good staff fearing they may outshine him. Even though last years Staff shake-up was years late & I feel will prove to be far short of what is really needed. I believe his time will be shortened beyond what most believe if there aren't SUBSTANTIAL improvements this season.

If we lose to uf, LSU, AL, UGA, SC & heaven forbid some UT lay down w other opponents, that would make for an ugly season. If one or two of those games get ugly for UT it may be just the thing MH feels to show Fulmer's not competing in the SEC, who knows. I certainly don't know MH's mo, but evidently he's not afraid to pull the trigger when he sees fit, i.e. the Buzz boot.

If you don't think Foley's record at uf doesn't rub other AD's in the butt, they probably don't need an AD's job.

So if UT has a "fast break" offense, they better use it and it better work.


Name one other NCAA FB Team that plays 8 out of 11 games in their own State?

I think Fulmer had trouble finding top notch assistants who wanted to work on the offense at UT. He's not been innovative at UT, and his offense of late has not been effective. So if you were a top notch assistant would you want to learn UT's offense and be asked to make it work. Its not cutting edge, west coast offense, etc.

He also seems to be unusually loyal, most of the hires were either ex Cutcliffe assistants or an ex-UT assistants. I think he should have looked outside his immediate circle for hires, but seems hesitant to do that.

Cutcliffe has some radical changes in mind, fast break offense, etc. It would be nice to see, if we can recruit the players to make that system work. The current players need to get radically better to make that kind of a passing offense work in my mind.

 

[WA_Vol]

I have confidence in Cutcliffe, and I like many of the concepts and ideas he has for the fast break offense. The 4 wr and 1 RB formation, is normally one I like a lot. I just think he is going to be disappointed given our current QB and WR's. They are not reliable.

I just think given that situation, and how well Foster played at the end of last year, the offense would have been better off focusing on his running the ball, and creating passing opportunities with play action pass off of that.

 

[jakez4ut]

i'd agree that our offense is not necessarily innovative, but it is a pro style offense. Lots of checks and reads....qb has to be smart as well as O line. RB's must be proficient in pass protections as well as TE's when used.

Running the ball will always be the primary focus i belive as long as CPF is around, that i have little doubt. I do think our talent level and experience level in some positions has affected the offense lately, and as GAVol pointed out in another thread, playcalling wasn't the issue last season.....the game plans and calls for the most part were actually pretty good. We made far too many mistakes, penalites, turnovers though to ever see any good that could potentially come from it.

So that would point to your asertion that the skill position players on hand aren't up to par and may not be reliable. they haven't given us much of a reason to think othersiwe granted. but hopefully since most of the starters know who they are we can have a good strong summer and move in to two a days in the fall with some momentum......at least that's what i'm hoping.

 

[RealVol]

I can buy that "skill position" deficit thing only to a slight degree. Someone explain SOS w absolutely no one comes in to Knoxville & wins.

Not to mention Vanderbilt. that was out manned in many times over w the exception of qb. And let's face it he wasn't even on the field when the wrapped it up in Knoxville.

 

[jakez4ut]

I can buy that "skill position" deficit thing only to a slight degree. Someone explain SOS w absolutely no one comes in to Knoxville & wins.

Not to mention Vanderbilt. that was out manned in many times over w the exception of qb. And let's face it he wasn't even on the field when the wrapped it up in Knoxville.

Point one...turnovers.

Point two...i dont' know that one still makes me wonder. i think it had more to do with the fact that the season was basically over, we were not good, and we probably, mistakenly, overlooked Vandy. we probably thought we could show up and beat 'em. which in most every other year is true. Last year was the year that it wasn't.

there's no reason talent wise we should have lost that game.

 

[RealVol]

"there's no reason talent wise we should have lost that game".

Which one???

Most, including myself thought we would have (& should have) been in line (or at least ended up top 5) for the NC Rose Bowl Game.

Gentlemen, talent wise UT was (is) there, schedule wise UT was there, incident wise UT was there, i.e. LSU's sad situation, uf's new coach, SC little talent-new Coach situation, ND new Coach, TV wise UT was there, hell maybe even having Vanderbilt play at Neyland, UT was there, etc....

Frankly, any Coach that can not do more w what he had, where he had them & the CONTINUED complete lack of improvement DOES NOT get much sympathy from me. Afterall, one of the classic definitions is continually doing something that continually fails equals STUPID! My friends UT is there.

Yes, yeah I know there were injuries, dropped balls, rain, snow, hail, turnovers, opponents had new schemes, it was a different SEC, every team we played named us public enemy #1, they had their best game, the were better than thought, they were waiting on UT, whatever!

Guess what guys IT AIN"T GOING TO CHANGE IN "06, "07, "08, whenever!