Fauci-gate

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golfballs said:
Social justice!??
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Isn’t that what he is getting right now? People are drawing their own conclusions from what’s been FIOAed and some say guilty some say meh... no harm. He’ll never be trusted again on the public stage no matter how hard the .Gov, NIH, CDC and the MSM push. That movie about Fauci amid this will probably never happen. His book deal is suffering but any damage he caused is done. Tony Fauci is the sacrificial lamb for covid blunders. His career is coming to a close, he’s 80 years old, he will never see one day of punishment for this. He will drift into anonymity.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So what does this say about most Americans?

2 weeks before the election: A quarter of the population believed the virus came from the Wuhan lab;
23% of Americans think the coronavirus was created in a Chinese lab, a survey suggests. Here's why that conspiracy theory is bogus.

2 days ago: After the Fauci emails were revealed;
Most Americans now think COVID came from Wuhan lab, new survey shows
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The first and second link short blurbs are not equivalent. It could have come from a lab but not been made in a lab. There is distance between the two positions.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Fauci was an honest broker of information in a time where not a lot was certain. Anyone who does not think that the scientists in this area were doing the best they could is just not rational. And all the while Fauci had to fend off pressure form Trump to pretend it wasn't a problem.

You want to complain he was too dismissive of the possibility it was man made? Ok, I get it. You want to be able to say Trump was right about that. Maybe in the end you will get to say that, I don't know. But I don't think you can say that Fauci was intentionally misleading people about this when the facts are so murky.

And I say that particularly to the likes of Rand Paul, as anti-China as they come, because he wants to paint Biden and the Dems as soft on China. the irony is that its such a weaksauce gimmick to try to overcome the REALITY that Trump was constantly taking it up the keister from Russia.

Not going to work.
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The facts on masks are not murky. It says it right on the damn box they don’t stop viruses. Then Fauci suggests 2??? They were mandated with data available showing their efficacy was bad.
I think that’s called lying.
 
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headhunter15 said:
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NurseGoodVol said:
The facts on masks are not murky. It says it right on the damn box they don’t stop viruses. Then Fauci suggests 2??? They were mandated with data available showing their efficacy was bad.
I think that’s called lying.
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"Doesn't help prevent" and "doesn’t stop" are entirely different ideas
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
Who said doesn’t help prevent? You just throw that in there for some unknown reason. See below...View attachment 372218
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According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, cloth masks help prevent the spread of COVID-19 from those who without symptoms. This means that although cloth masks do not have the capability to filter tiny particles like an N95 mask, it can still help prevent the spread of the disease by blocking respiratory droplets that leave a person's mouth while coughing, sneezing or talking.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, cloth masks help prevent the spread of COVID-19 from those who without symptoms. This means that although cloth masks do not have the capability to filter tiny particles like an N95 mask, it can still help prevent the spread of the disease by blocking respiratory droplets that leave a person's mouth while coughing, sneezing or talking.
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According to the CDC, a month ago vaccinated people could only hug their grandparents w/o wearing a mask. They have their opinion but so do others. In Europe they banned cloth masks due to their ineffectiveness. Do I know if they're effective? No, I don't but it's not settled science that they work
 
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Sea Ray said:
According to the CDC, a month ago vaccinated people could only hug their grandparents w/o wearing a mask. They have their opinion but so do others. In Europe they banned cloth masks due to their ineffectiveness. Do I know if they're effective? No, I don't but it's not settled science that they work
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Over a month ago, people at the CDC were also insistent that this whole virus came from nature.

The CDC is a joke. Anyone citing them seriously is also a joke.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, cloth masks help prevent the spread of COVID-19 from those who without symptoms. This means that although cloth masks do not have the capability to filter tiny particles like an N95 mask, it can still help prevent the spread of the disease by blocking respiratory droplets that leave a person's mouth while coughing, sneezing or talking.
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Then why haven't the areas with strict mask mandates had significantly less covid than the places that didn't?
 
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n_huffhines said:
"Doesn't help prevent" and "doesn’t stop" are entirely different ideas
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No. They're not. By not helping prevent, it doesn't stop. If it can get in, it can get out. Drafty old houses are all the science needed to demonstrate the box warning on masks.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, cloth masks help prevent the spread of COVID-19 from those who without symptoms. This means that although cloth masks do not have the capability to filter tiny particles like an N95 mask, it can still help prevent the spread of the disease by blocking respiratory droplets that leave a person's mouth while coughing, sneezing or talking.
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1) That agency name lost a great deal of credibility playing politics. They will no longer be trusted by the sector of the public that has common sense.
2) Goes right through the masks. Even with 2 masks, the virus droplets are so microscopically smaller than the mask construction, they still go thru.
 
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hog88 said:
CNN could label a monkey an expert on infectious disease and 1/2 the country would believe them.
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The same could be said for viewers of right leaning news networks. People’s willingness to buy into cult or personalities is obvious.

My perception, however, is left leaning thinkers are more prone to group think and being swayed by appeals to authority. I also believe the people who shape thought understand that very well.
 
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hog88 said:
CNN could label a monkey an expert on infectious disease and 1/2 the country would believe them.
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I bet you can find this "epidemic" in the "great reset" somehow. Find the sheep that will blindly follow the Gov, and then find "legal and humane" ways to eliminate those blood sucking leeches so you won't have to support them in the new world order. lol.

All in fun of course, but people shouldn't be so quick to dismiss theorists for their beliefs, and assume government wouldn't do such a thing. CIA secret human guinea pigs (against their will) existed in a much more conservative era of our society. And may still. Who knows. Who you gonna trust on earth??
 
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hog88 said:
CNN could label a monkey an expert on infectious disease and 1/2 the country would believe them.
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They did, didn't they? Wasn't Pelosi exercising her expertise in usurping science and still requiring masks on the floor.
 
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DC_Vol said:
The same could be said for viewers of right leaning news networks. People’s willingness to buy into cult or personalities is obvious.

My perception, however, is left leaning thinkers are more prone to group think and being swayed by appeals to authority. I also believe the people who shape thought understand that very well.
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Yeah, right wingers don't subscribe to group think.
 
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