Favorite Excuse for Dooley?

#79
#79
Hacksaw said:
3 consecutive losing seasons and having to fire the head coach and start all over again is winning in your book, huh? Not mine. I was never sold on Dooley, but I would rather he had been successful. I don't care about being right, if it means the Vols have to lose.
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So, the alternative of potentially 3 more losing seasons under Dooley was the better option?

The guy alienated nearly two coaching staffs, most of his players, and most of the AD.

He wasn't a "good person".

He wasn't a good coach who was just "snakebitten".

He wasn't a master recruiter at UT.

Overall, he wasn't good for UT and it's a good thing he is gone.
 
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sjt18 said:
Excuse or reason?

The excuse was those who tried to say "If Sal weren't hired....". Dooley hired him. Part of his job is to make the right hire and then to make things happen even if he doesn't.

Dooley did inherit a mess. Sometimes when you walk into something like that you drown before you can get your head out of the water. He did some things that should pay dividends for the program like re-building the foundation of the roster and the VFL program. But at some point you have to prove you can coach and win against the better coaches. Unfortunately, he could not do it.

If Jones wins... Dooley may become a popular coach for programs that are down. Give him two or 3 years and he will set the next guy up.
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Exactly Sjt!!:good!: When I read the op this is the only thing I can think of. Even reading through all the posts. Glad someone else beat me to it. People frankly are just not capable of understanding the difference. They sit and make fun of a guy that would walk circles around them in a conversation about CFB. It's soooo easy to see who the losers are that need to find joy in the failures of others cause that's how pathetic they are.

Dooley was not over his head IMO...for the job he was hired for. Rebuild. W/Ls is not the way to judge his time here because down times can and will happen in complete rebuilds imo. It's all the other things he had to fix behind the scenes that were left for him by the ones before him. From rebuilding a roster to over seeing the construction of the new facilities.

Dooley's tenure and CBJs can not be compared equally by any means. 2 toooootallly different situations. Dooley took over a house that was condemned and now CBJ is just having to pick out the best drapes to go with the furniture.
 
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VolGrad said:
What's your excuse for having the time, energy, and poor taste to start ANOTHER thread about how bad Dooley was? I expect that you're extraordinarily successful at your job, probably as a CEO or some other million dollar level professional, so you won't understand, but the man was offered a job, tried, didn't succeed at it, was fired, and now we're off in a completely new direction.

Petty and Pathetic Thread.
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"We were just bad, man... just bad. I do not know Monica Lewinski. I've never ridden a motorcycle with her. I've never gone bowling in the student center with her. I've never taken her to dinner at Shoney's. I've never rafted the Ocoee with her. Who is this... Monica person, and what does she and I have to do with the football team? We were bad... man, just bad."
 
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Oskie Volum said:
Exactly Sjt!!:good!: When I read the op this is the only thing I can think of. Even reading through all the posts. Glad someone else beat me to it. People frankly are just not capable of understanding the difference. They sit and make fun of a guy that would walk circles around them in a conversation about CFB. It's soooo easy to see who the losers are that need to find joy in the failures of others cause that's how pathetic they are.

Dooley was not over his head IMO...for the job he was hired for. Rebuild. W/Ls is not the way to judge his time here because down times can and will happen in complete rebuilds imo. It's all the other things he had to fix behind the scenes that were left for him by the ones before him. From rebuilding a roster to over seeing the construction of the new facilities.

Dooley's tenure and CBJs can not be compared equally by any means. 2 toooootallly different situations. Dooley took over a house that was condemned and now CBJ is just having to pick out the best drapes to go with the furniture.
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You two are still making excuses for Dooley. He did not leave things in any better shape than he inherited.
 
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#88
Those of you saying "give it a rest" why should I or anyone else who called a spade a spade give it a rest? I knew Dooley was a loser after the UK game, and any time I slightly suggested that people went absolutely berserk on me and everyone else. The people who were content with his pitiful coaching are even worse than Dooley himself.
 
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I agree...similarly I brought up how we needed to get rid of Da'Rick after last year and people ripped me up and down...funny how that turned out ;)
 
#90
#90
get behind the new coach and hope he does a great job....
 
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k-town_king said:
You two are still making excuses for Dooley. He did not leave things in any better shape than he inherited.
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If you truly believe this, then you need to get your head examined.

You should feel very blessed that Dooley accepted the job and that he did a swell job of rebuilding an absolute dumpster fire. His W/L record is not indicative of the rebuilding he did.
 
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sjrobert said:
Clearly should have retained that .750 coach who, in his last eight years-two graduating classes, managed to beat the big five in the SEC 12 times while losing to those five 22 times, not .750 of course, but merely .352, and who had a 29-21 overall record his last four years while going 17-15 in SEC play, not .750, but .531. Definitely a poor decision in retrospect.
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Yeah and every single one of those numbers is better than anything Dooley or Kiffin did.

And who says you can't have a couple bad years in a 16-year stretch?

But seriously...did we go 11-1?
 
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strongtower said:
So give Dools' more time & patience - you win, I am the idiot :eek:lol:
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Self realization is the first step to improvement. Keep at it.

Let me guess...you wanted Gruden really bad and were also convinced he was coming? That would fit the profile. :)

But there is hope for you...
 
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Oskie Volum said:
Dooley was not over his head IMO...for the job he was hired for. Rebuild. W/Ls is not the way to judge his time here because down times can and will happen in complete rebuilds imo. It's all the other things he had to fix behind the scenes that were left for him by the ones before him. From rebuilding a roster to over seeing the construction of the new facilities.

Dooley's tenure and CBJs can not be compared equally by any means. 2 toooootallly different situations. Dooley took over a house that was condemned and now CBJ is just having to pick out the best drapes to go with the furniture.
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Wow...just...wow...really? What the hell did Dooley "rebuild"? He "rebuilt" us into Vanderbilt's whipping boy? You know usually when people use the term "rebuild", they mean that you improved on the previous guy's record. That's kind of, you know, the definition of the word. Dooley "rebuilt" by posting a worse record than any coach before him, in UT's 100+ year history. That's your version of rebuilding? Wow. I mean, I didn't realize people were actually still this delusional...Amazing.
 
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Nerwen Aldarion said:
I met Dooley too and I just cannot imagine this. The man was respectful and courteous.
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I heard similar things to what the previous poster said (not the whole punching in the face thing but just that he is not a very likable person.) He may have been nice to you when you met him but most people are nice to strangers, so that doesn't really prove anything. Either way I never really cared about his personality (I was never looking to be the guy's buddy, just wanted him to make Tennessee relevant again) I cared about his record and his proof on the field that he was developing players. Obviously, I was not impressed.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
If you truly believe this, then you need to get your head examined.

You should feel very blessed that Dooley accepted the job and that he did a swell job of rebuilding an absolute dumpster fire. His W/L record is not indicative of the rebuilding he did.
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Explain to me the rebuilding he did. I don't see it.
 
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BanditVol said:
But I was big on saying we need to be patient no matter who the coach is. There is a segment of our fanbase, and not the intelligent part, but the opposite. And for the benefit of that part of the fanbase, let me make it clear that I mean the dumbass part. The dumbass part of the fanbase thought all we had to do was jettison Fulmer and we could instantly start going 11-1 or 12-0 and competing for the NC every year. Their logic in thinking this apparently consisted of saying that Urban Meyer did this at Florida and Saban did this at Alabama, while completely ignoring how unusual the success of both those coaches was and is.

So if we jettisoned Fulmer and got that dumbass Kiffin and then Dooley, the people most upset with Dooley are likely the same mouthbreathing cretins that assume firing Fulmer will lead to instant success.

Thus, those people need to have their faces rubbed in JUST HOW BAD it can be, and maybe learn to be a bit more patient. Or, better yet, get the hell out of the fanbase.

So I defended the team for a long time, not out of love of Dooley, but to counter the idiots in the fanbase who don't understand that a coaching change is fraught with risk. Wanna get rid of a coach that won the NC and is 0.750. Oopps! Didn't work! So now you wanna get rid of the current coach? Nope. Enjoy losing for awhile, and let it soak through your thick skull that you're a knuckle dragging moron, and should probably start rooting for Vandy or Bammer. In other words, enjoy the Dooley era! You thoroughly deserve it!
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BanditVol said:
Yeah and every single one of those numbers is better than anything Dooley or Kiffin did.

And who says you can't have a couple bad years in a 16-year stretch?

But seriously...did we go 11-1?
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Dude, you do realize that our current plight is directly due Fulmer's laziness and incompetence. Let's not act like the program was golden when Fulmer left. He ran this program into the ground and left a ticking time bomb when he left. We have been on the slow road to recovery ever since.

There is a reason that a HC at his alma mater with a NC (however lucky it was) was fired.

There is a reason he has not been hired since being fired.
 
#100
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99gator said:
As i have said before, it's every Tennessee fan's god given right to berate dooley for the length of time they are berated about the kentucky and vandy losses.

When Tennessee fans stop catching hell for that, then dooley can stop catching hell
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I've said this many times.

Dooley compared the team to the Nazi army as a smokescreen to deflect blame from his own lack of leadership.

He is fair game for Vol fans forever. "Moving on" is disrespectful to all Vol fans. For two generations or more, Vol fans in Neyland, when they see something epic bad should look around and say, "That was a Dooley right there."
 
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