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#451
turbovol said:
Jim Jordan’s FBI whistleblowers turn out to be disgruntled FBI employees who lost security clearance when they espoused conspiracy theories and refused to investigate #Jan6 rioters. They were paid by the gangster's pal, Kash Patel. Poor Jim Jordan.
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Link?
 
#452
#452
BowlBrother85 said:
We have been through this before, and that is what is so annoying.

CrowdStrike makes it clear in their statement that they do believe that Russia hacked the DNC. They explain the how's and why's of this conclusion.

Now .... we also now know the 6 Russian agents who were identified as being responsible for the DNC hack, while one of them has also confessed his involvement. So, you are just dead wrong when you say that it could have been an inside job or someone else. It was Russia. PERIOD.
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Belief. Circumstantial evidence. Direct evidence.
Only two of these are the same.

Again, do you have a link to Russians being jailed for the hacking? Here is your claim:
"I have posted countless links to sources over the years, which even explain how the specific Russian agents responsible for hacking the DNC were identified ... and with a confession."
"Russia hacked the damn DNC ... the agents responsible have been identified - and one has even confessed to doing it ... and is in jail"

Perhaps you mean this:
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A Russian who claimed in 2017 that he was ordered to hack the U.S. Democratic National Committee (DNC) and steal emails linked to Hillary Clinton has been sentenced to 14 years for cyber fraud.

Konstantin Kozlovsky, the leader of the hacking group Lurk, was ordered by a court in Yekaterinburg to spend 14 years at a "maximum security prison colony" after the group used Trojan malware to steal more than 1.2 billion rubles ($15.6 million) between December 2015 and April 2016.

He was arrested in 2016 and charged with illegally accessing computer information, organizing a criminal association, and with cyber fraud. Others members of the group were handed sentences of between five and a half years and 13 years, RBC reported.

According to Interfax, Kozlovsky's statements that he allegedly stole data from U.S. government servers using malicious software weren't confirmed during the trial.

"During examinations, there were no facts presented that the U.S. government's network infrastructure was infected. The gang members themselves have never discussed this issue in the network correspondence available in the case file. Except for Kozlovsky, none of the members of the group confirm any computer attacks on U.S. networks or influence on the U.S. presidential election in 2016," a source told the news agency. Russian Who Claims Hillary Clinton, DNC Email Hack Gets 14-Year Sentence
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If this is your reference, you're blatantly lying by omission or mischaracterization. Very Mueller-esque.
Refute please.
 
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NCFisher said:
Belief. Circumstantial evidence. Direct evidence.
Only two of these are the same.

Again, do you have a link to Russians being jailed for the hacking? Here is your claim:
"I have posted countless links to sources over the years, which even explain how the specific Russian agents responsible for hacking the DNC were identified ... and with a confession."
"Russia hacked the damn DNC ... the agents responsible have been identified - and one has even confessed to doing it ... and is in jail"

Perhaps you mean this:
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A Russian who claimed in 2017 that he was ordered to hack the U.S. Democratic National Committee (DNC) and steal emails linked to Hillary Clinton has been sentenced to 14 years for cyber fraud.

Konstantin Kozlovsky, the leader of the hacking group Lurk, was ordered by a court in Yekaterinburg to spend 14 years at a "maximum security prison colony" after the group used Trojan malware to steal more than 1.2 billion rubles ($15.6 million) between December 2015 and April 2016.

He was arrested in 2016 and charged with illegally accessing computer information, organizing a criminal association, and with cyber fraud. Others members of the group were handed sentences of between five and a half years and 13 years, RBC reported.

According to Interfax, Kozlovsky's statements that he allegedly stole data from U.S. government servers using malicious software weren't confirmed during the trial.

"During examinations, there were no facts presented that the U.S. government's network infrastructure was infected. The gang members themselves have never discussed this issue in the network correspondence available in the case file. Except for Kozlovsky, none of the members of the group confirm any computer attacks on U.S. networks or influence on the U.S. presidential election in 2016," a source told the news agency. Russian Who Claims Hillary Clinton, DNC Email Hack Gets 14-Year Sentence
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If this is your reference, you're blatantly lying by omission or mischaracterization. Very Mueller-esque.
Refute please.
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You have mischaracterized CrowdStrike's position. They clearly stated that they believe Russia hacked the DNC ... and the 6 Russians involved have been identified. You are pathetic.
 
#455
#455
At least one of the whistleblowers said that Wray lied to Congress about the FBI having undercover agents at the Jan 6th protests and that they were involved in violence.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You have mischaracterized CrowdStrike's position. They clearly stated that they believe Russia hacked the DNC ... and the 6 Russians involved have been identified. You are pathetic.
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Then I did so using your link regarding Crowdstrike/Henry's own words.
This post isn't about Crowdstrike, but rather about you implying Russian(s) have confessed and jailed for hacking the DNC.

Link please, for the 3rd time??
 
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NCFisher said:
Then I did so using your link regarding Crowdstrike/Henry's own words.
This post isn't about Crowdstrike, but rather about you implying Russian(s) have confessed and jailed for hacking the DNC.

Link please, for the 3rd time??
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I have already posted several links to that effect ... and CrowdStrike clearly stated their conclusion that Russia hacked the DNC.
 
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davethevol said:
At least one of the whistleblowers said that Wray lied to Congress about the FBI having undercover agents at the Jan 6th protests and that they were involved in violence.
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At least two of them were paid ... by a former aide to Donald Trump. This is going nowhere.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I have already posted several links to that effect ... and CrowdStrike clearly stated their conclusion that Russia hacked the DNC.
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See? I knew that was what you were referring to.
Now explain why your depiction of Kozlovsky doesn't match the facts.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Here is another ...

Anti-FBI witnesses at GOP hearing say they took money from ex-Trump aide

That ex-Trump aide is Kash Patel ... a die hard Trump loyalist.
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So what? They were wrongly suspended without pay because they didn’t toe the line and violate the law. I would be concerned as well if I were told to go hang out in the parking lot of school board meetings and look at what kind of window stickers parents had to determine whether they’re “domestic terrorists” or not. Worse than all the corrupt fbi s*** is what Bank of America did.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
LOL

It matters that they were paid by a former Trump aide .... It matters a lot.
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It doesn't matter a damn, you blinkered fool. The committee isn't about Trump but the weaponization of agencies, and these guys appear to be two perfect examples. That Patel sends donations to two FBI agents who've been put out of a job for bravely stepping forward - former combat veterans - is immaterial unless you're stating Patel's assistance is so great they would lie so they can lose the livelihoods their families depend on.

You're a terrible human being.
 
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NCFisher said:
It doesn't matter a damn, you blinkered fool. The committee isn't about Trump but the weaponization of agencies, and these guys appear to be two perfect examples. That Patel sends donations to two FBI agents who've been put out of a job for bravely stepping forward - former combat veterans - is immaterial unless you're stating Patel's assistance is so great they would lie so they can lose the livelihoods their families depend on.

You're a terrible human being.
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He rightly lost his job and is still disgruntled.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
Ok they were out of a job and the guy gave them Money. Where’s the link that they lost their clearance due to not investigating Jan 6 participants?
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It is very damaging to their credibility as "whistleblowers."

It's too easy for Democrats to portray their testimony as having been bought and paid for now. This FBI whistleblower crap is going absolutely nowhere. Jim Jordan has egg on his face. If he knew they were paid by Patel, he should have been the one to disclose it during the hearing ... letting Goldman do it, just makes it look as though he was hiding something.

What a farce.
 
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NCFisher said:
It doesn't matter a damn, you blinkered fool. The committee isn't about Trump but the weaponization of agencies, and these guys appear to be two perfect examples. That Patel sends donations to two FBI agents who've been put out of a job for bravely stepping forward - former combat veterans - is immaterial unless you're stating Patel's assistance is so great they would lie so they can lose the livelihoods their families depend on.

You're a terrible human being.
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Says the liar ...
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It is very damaging to their credibility as "whistleblowers."

It's too easy for Democrats to portray their testimony as having been bought and paid for now. This FBI whistleblower crap is going absolutely nowhere. Jim Jordan has egg on his face. If he knew they were paid by Patel, he should have been the one to disclose it during the hearing ... letting Goldman do it, just makes it look as though he was hiding something.

What a farce.
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If I had a legitimate financial need and kids, I would take money from just about anyone. Jordan’s a moron and should have disclosed it. Again…,where is the evidence that one of them lost their job or clearance over 1/6 issue. Turbo made This accusation like he had proof or a link at his fingertips. I want to see it. Making a claim that you can’t back up is very Trump/ Biden-esque. If he was wrong and doesn’t have proof then he can just sack up and admit it.
 
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NCFisher said:
It doesn't matter a damn, you blinkered fool. The committee isn't about Trump but the weaponization of agencies, and these guys appear to be two perfect examples. That Patel sends donations to two FBI agents who've been put out of a job for bravely stepping forward - former combat veterans - is immaterial unless you're stating Patel's assistance is so great they would lie so they can lose the livelihoods their families depend on.

You're a terrible human being.
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That's absurdly naive. A genuine whistleblower wouldn't take money from someone who had a vested interest in the content of their testimony as Kash Patel clearly does. It's highly inappropriate.
 
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#474
NCFisher said:
...using Crowdstrike's Henry's own sworn words and your link to refute you.

You have a long list of "all (my) lies" to disprove; get cracking on it.
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If you were using CrowdStrike's own words, then you would acknowledge that they clearly say that they believe that Russia was responsible for the DNC hack.
 
#475
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BowlBrother85 said:
That's absurdly naive. A genuine whistleblower wouldn't take money from someone who had a vested interest in the content of their testimony as Kash Patel clearly does. It's highly inappropriate.
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Nonsense; is their testimony of substance or not? That is the only pertinent question before the committee.
What "vested interest" does Patel have?
 
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