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#502
#502
Remember when Schiff took that phone call from the Russian that supposedly had dirt on Trump? Good times.
As Durham said..no Crossfire Hurricane without the false dossier. These past few years have been the Biggest Lie of all and really made quite an impression on some that just cannot admit they were wrong.
 
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VOLS INC. said:
You are talking about a building.

Iā€™m talking about how the left has destroyed major city after major city with their dangerous ideas and corruption. Not to mention how the IRS, FBI and CIA have been completely compromised. Public schools from K5-College are indoctrination stations. And our culture has been so infected with leftist ideology pushed by the modern democrat party a large segment of the population truly believes men can get pregnant.

This isnā€™t about a building son. This about destroying everything yā€™all touch.
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What a ridiculous thing to say, that it's a building. It was also Congress in session so it was purposeful interference with one of the three primary arms of our government. To dismiss that as unimportant shows you don't even know what being a patriot is.

And your arguments show a hate based on no factual basis. You don't love this country. You're a hater and that's all you are.
 
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WBO said:
What a ridiculous thing to say, that it's a building. It was also Congress in session so it was purposeful interference with one of the three primary arms of our government. To dismiss that as unimportant shows you don't even know what being a patriot is.

And your arguments show a hate based on no factual basis. You don't love this country. You're a hater and that's all you are.
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Sounds like you have trouble understanding what one is too.
 
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#509
Good stuff from this article ...

Mr. Mueller: Was the DNC Server Actually Hacked by the Russians? - The American Spectator | USA News and Politics

Despite these revelations, the mainstream media have stubbornly clung to the Trump-Russia collusion narrative. And central to that the narrative is that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians to hack the DNC email server.
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But, in their coverage, the mainstream media have downplayed the very odd behavior of the DNC, the putative target of the alleged hack. For, when the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI learned of the hacking claim, they asked to examine the server.

And the DNC refused.

Why would the purported victim of a crime refuse to cooperate with law enforcement in solving that crime? Is it hiding something? Is it afraid the serverā€™s contents will discredit the Russia-hacking story?

The answers to those questions began to emerge thanks to an article in the August 8, 2017 issue of the Nation. By no means a pro-Trump publication, the Nation published an exhaustive report about an exacting forensic investigation of the DNC hack by the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), an organization of former CIA, FBI, National Security Agency, and military intelligence officers, technical experts, and analysts.

As reported by the Nation, VIPS has a well-established record of debunking questionable intelligence assessments that have been slanted to serve political purposes. For example, in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq, VIPS courageously and correctly challenged the accuracy and veracity of the CIAā€™s intelligence estimates that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction and that he posed a threat to the United States. Similarly, VIPS has condemned the use of ā€œenhanced interrogation techniquesā€ on suspected terrorists. In short, VIPS can hardly be described as either a right-wing cabal or as carrying water for the Republican Party.

In its analysis of the purported DNC hack, VIPS brought to bear the impressive talents of more than a dozen experienced, well-credentialed experts, including William Binney, a former NSA technical director and cofounder of the NSAā€™s Signals Intelligence Automation Research Center; Edward Loomis, former NSA technical director for the Office of Signals Processing; and Skip Folden, a former IBM information technology manager. As the French would say, these are lā€™hommes serieux, as are the other computer-system designers, program architects, and analysts with whom they investigated the Clinton-DNC hack story.

As set forth in the article, VIPSā€™ investigative findings were nothing short of stunning.

First, VIPS concluded that the DNC data were not hacked by the Russians or anyone else accessing the server over the internet. Instead, the data were downloaded by means of a thumb drive or similar portable storage device physically attached to the DNC server.

How was this determined? The time stamps contained in the released computer filesā€™ metadata establish that, at 6:45 p.m. July 5, 2016, 1,976 megabytes (not megabits) of data were downloaded from the DNCā€™s server. This took 87 seconds, which means the transfer rate was 22.7 megabytes per second, a speed, according to VIPS, that ā€œis much faster than what is physically possible with a hack.ā€ Such a speed could be accomplished only by direct connection of a portable storage device to the server. Accordingly, VIPS concluded that the DNC data theft was an inside job by someone with physical access to the server.

VIPS also found that, if there had been a hack, the NSA would have a record of it that could quickly be retrieved and produced. But no such evidence has been forthcoming. Can this be because no hack occurred?

Even more remarkable, the experts determined that the files released by Guccifer 2.0 have been ā€œrun, via ordinary cut and paste, through a template that effectively immersed them in what could plausibly be cast as Russian fingerprints.ā€ In other words, the files were deliberately altered to give the false impression that they were hacked by Russian agents.

Thanks to the VIPS experts, the Russia-hacking claim ā€” the very prolog of the Trump-Russia conspiracy story ā€” appears to have been affirmatively and convincingly undercut.
 
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WBO said:
Really? Served 20 years as a Naval Aviator. I've checked my boxes.

But then again you just like to hate.
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If blind obedience and loyalty to Washington, DC is the definition of patriotism count me out. And yes I served to.

You mentioned earlier about the capitol being desecrated on 1/6. First of all it's just a damn building. It is not sacred unless you worship at the alter of government and if that is the case, I hate to break it to you but that building was desecrated decades ago by the people who occupy it and it deserves no reverence.
 
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hog88 said:
If blind obedience and loyalty to Washington, DC is the definition of patriotism count me out. And yes I served to.

You mentioned earlier about the capitol being desecrated on 1/6. First of all it's just a damn building. It is not sacred unless you worship at the alter of government and if that is the case, I hate to break it to you but that building was desecrated decades ago by the people who occupy it and it deserves no reverence.
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ā€œHeresy! - burn the witch!ā€
 
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WBO said:
Yeah it was Democrats who desecrated the Capitol on Jan 6th. No it was right wing seditionists who are now getting what they deserve. Hard time.

Looks like the Proud Boys are going to become a prison gang now. I say put them all in Atlanta federal prison. It's nothing short of a war zone.
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Did anyone ever tell us why USCP started firing grenades into the large and actually peaceful crowd at the West entrance? Why USCP officers were dressed in civies and exhorting the crowd to violence (possibly disproven)? What were the FBI agents undercover doing that day in the crowd?

Did you bother caring for a moment, or that people are languishing in a DC gulag for minor offenses as sacred government tries to break them into guilty pleas, and using novel legal theories to up-charge them? Why was Chansley ever in prison and how many have faced similar penalty after being allowed into the building temple?

Since weā€™re bantering about patriotism.
 
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#513
WBO said:
Yeah it was Democrats who desecrated the Capitol on Jan 6th. No it was right wing seditionists who are now getting what they deserve. Hard time.

Looks like the Proud Boys are going to become a prison gang now. I say put them all in Atlanta federal prison. It's nothing short of a war zone.
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Luckily the fbi didnā€™t arm anyone.
 
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NCFisher said:
Yes.

Clinton/DNC hired Perkins-Coie who hired Fusion GPS to fabricate a Russian narrative. They hired foreign agent C. Steele under the auspices of using his (Steele) former position in British MI6's Russia desk to cultivate Russian sources for his investigation of Trump Russiaaaah! ties. As it turns out, Steele's source was a Russian national living in DC name Igor Danchenko, who fed him what he (Danchenko) termed bar talk. As Durham puts it, "when interviewed by the FBI in January 2017, Danchenko also was unable to corroborate any of the substantive allegations in the Reports. Rather, Danchenko characterized the information he provided to Steele as 'rumor and speculation' and the product of casual conversation." Durham report shows how Christopher Steele forgot Fort Monckton

Despite knowing Danchenko and Steele were FOS in Jan. 2017, DOJ/FBI placed Danchenko in CHS (confidential human source) status so that he could not be interviewed by congressional inquiry since they wouldn't even know about him. To protect the dossier narrative which was THE tipping point within DOJ/FBI legal to press ahead for a FISA warrant, an illegally obtained FISA warrant, on Carter Page and falsely used to renew it three times. The FISA warrants were the locus allowing the FBI to tab anyone within the Trump admin for investigation. The FBI had fired Steele - self-admittedly absorbed in preventing Trump from winning election - for leaking the dossier and lying about it, but kept him on retainer payments.

So, yeah, there was Russian collusion, it just wasn't the Trump campaign/admin doing it.

I can only surmise LG expects conservatives to explain why DOJ/FBI, Clinton and DNC, colluded with Russians to frame Trump.
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Extremely well put. Frustrating that the media never reports on how accurate your statement is.

All the while the DOJ knew Carter Page was a trusted asset of the CIA
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It sounds like you are saying that it's wrong for a President to weaponize government institutions against political opponents and critics?

I couldn't agree more ....

ā€˜Where are all of the arrests?ā€™: Trump demands Barr lock up his foes

Trump wanted to order Justice Dept to prosecute Clinton, Comey: New York Times

How the Durham inquiry backfired to show weaponization of Trump DoJ

13 times Trump and his GOP allies weaponized the DOJ in 2018

Trump not done pushing the Justice Department to pursue his enemies
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So we should just accept the premise that they "won't do it again?"

Opinions and whataboutism like you assert is why this country will not come off the slippery slope it's own. Please let this sink in that everything Durham investigated shows that Hillary President Obama and President Biden were 1000% aware of everything.
You lefties aren't intelligent enough to understand that the democrats will not stop until they have complete control of everything. And when you have your red pill moment it will be too late. There will be a ruling class and everyone else. And those democrats will not give two "f's" what you think.
 
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#520
BowlBrother85 said:
I don't think such a debate would go the way you want it to ....

At a time when Trump was still insisting that Russia was not responsible for the DNC hack, the Obama administration had been briefed on intelligence from the CIA that conclusively demonstrated that Russian actors had been involved. In a clear mistake, Obama waited until after the 2016 election to make these findings public and take any action at all against Russia. This was because Obama did not want to appear as though he was trying to influence the outcome of the election.

If anything, Obama needed to do more. It was the "free and fair election" process that prevented him from doing so. I can post link after link after link to this if you try and dispute that.
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What does Trump have to do with Clinton storing classified documents on a none government server? I will help lead you to the answer below.





Answer: Nothing
 
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BreatheUT said:
What does Trump have to do with Clinton storing classified documents on a now government server? I will help lead you to the answer below.





Answer: Nothing
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What does your post have to do with mine? I will also be of help here ....

Answer : Jack $hit.
 
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vols40 said:
So we should just accept the premise that they "won't do it again?"

Opinions and whataboutism like you assert is why this country will not come off the slippery slope it's own. Please let this sink in that everything Durham investigated shows that Hillary President Obama and President Biden were 1000% aware of everything.
You lefties aren't intelligent enough to understand that the democrats will not stop until they have complete control of everything. And when you have your red pill moment it will be too late. There will be a ruling class and everyone else. And those democrats will not give two "f's" what you think.
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Exactly.

You do not care that Trump weaponized the DOJ. You only care when you think it is the Democrats who have abused their power ... with Republicans? You don't care.
 
#524
#524
NCFisher said:
It says you're a dullard who doesn't comprehend. Trump knew he was innocent of the charges alleged and justifiably asked why it was being allowed. He's not a legal expert but he knew the investigations were crooked. He's not an espionage expert but knew he was being spied upon.

It wasn't Democrats; feckless people like yourself kept reminding us repeatedly of the Republicaness of Comey, Mueller, Bolton, Espey, et al; it was a matter of legal principle not party. Of rogue bureaucracy that likes being answerable to no one and imposed themselves into elections to effect an outcome in a way the Kremlin could only aspire to.

That you extrapolate that to assert I'd be comfortable with rogue agencies targeting Democrats demonstrates your lunacy. Rogue. Bureaucracy. Is. A. Nation. Destroying. Force.

Got it now?
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Trump is a liar, who clearly was trying to use the powers of the presidency to extract revenge against his opponents and critics. Less than a month before the election, Trump was pressuring his Attorney General to arrest his opponent ... That is something out of a banana republic. You defend him for it, because you are a hyper-partisan, right-wing crackpot.
 
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