FBS Conference Realignment (updated breakdown)

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ukvols said:
Bumped for edits regarding Coastal Carolina, Idaho, UMass, and New Mexico St.
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I know Coastal Carolina will be joining the Sun Belt and Idaho will be dropping to the FCS level, but what's the deal with UMASS and NMSU? Are they both going to the FCS as well?
 
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Rockytoptalker said:
I know Coastal Carolina will be joining the Sun Belt and Idaho will be dropping to the FCS level, but what's the deal with UMASS and NMSU? Are they both going to the FCS as well?
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UMass is now an FBS Independent. The MAC kicked them out. The Sun Belt is kicking out Idaho and NMSU. NMSU will be an FBS Independent in 2018.
 
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Rockytoptalker said:
I know Coastal Carolina will be joining the Sun Belt and Idaho will be dropping to the FCS level, but what's the deal with UMASS and NMSU? Are they both going to the FCS as well?
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UMass isn't planning on it in the next few years, but I can't see them surviving all that long as an independent.

NMSU will almost definitely go FCS or drop football altogether unless they can convince the Mountain West to let them in.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
UMass isn't planning on it in the next few years, but I can't see them surviving all that long as an independent.
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UMass' big mistake was trying to play FBS football while keeping all of their other sports in the A10. Their football program simply isn't valuable enough to be a legitimate option for any conference to take them as an affiliate member.
 
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bamawriter said:
UMass' big mistake was trying to play FBS football while keeping all of their other sports in the A10. Their football program simply isn't valuable enough to be a legitimate option for any conference to take them as an affiliate member.
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They should offer all of their sports to the American if the Big 12 takes one or more of its teams.
 
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ukvols said:
They should offer all of their sports to the American if the Big 12 takes one or more of its teams.
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I was thinking the AAC might be an option if/when the B12 takes 1 or more their teams. But they'd have to probably agree to all sports, even the AAC probably wouldn't want just their football team.
 
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So question about BYU, since they won't play on Sundays, does that mean if they say joined the B12, went undefeated and made the playoffs and they took place on Sunday (if that's even a possibility), they would either forfeit or turn down the spot (which the B12 probably wouldn't even allow)?

I know the NCAA works with them for most stuff but I can't see the NCAA saying "Sure thing BYU, we'll move your game to Saturday/Monday just for you!"
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
So question about BYU, since they won't play on Sundays, does that mean if they say joined the B12, went undefeated and made the playoffs and they took place on Sunday (if that's even a possibility), they would either forfeit or turn down the spot (which the B12 probably wouldn't even allow)?

I know the NCAA works with them for most stuff but I can't see the NCAA saying "Sure thing BYU, we'll move your game to Saturday/Monday just for you!"
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NFL rules the roost, no college games on Sundays, see this years bowl schedule.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
So question about BYU, since they won't play on Sundays, does that mean if they say joined the B12, went undefeated and made the playoffs and they took place on Sunday (if that's even a possibility), they would either forfeit or turn down the spot (which the B12 probably wouldn't even allow)?

I know the NCAA works with them for most stuff but I can't see the NCAA saying "Sure thing BYU, we'll move your game to Saturday/Monday just for you!"
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College football has an agreement with the NFL to not play any high profile bowl games on Sundays. They've scheduled the CFP thru 2025 and none of the games are played on Sundays. BYU's school rule shouldn't be a problem in that respect.
 
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bamawriter said:
College football has an agreement with the NFL to not play any high profile bowl games on Sundays. They've scheduled the CFP thru 2025 and none of the games are played on Sundays. BYU's school rule shouldn't be a problem in that respect.
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I figured something like that was in place, but it was still a scenario I wondered how would play out.
 
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BYU's Sunday policy would be tested if their women's basketball team makes the Final Four. I realize that's unlikely, but I think they should sit out the tournament entirely if they would actually skip the Final Four. The men's and women's CWS also include Sunday games. I have just assumed they would play if they advance deep in a postseason tournament that culminates on a Sunday.
 
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ukvols said:
:bump3: for Liberty
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If Notre Dame fully joins the ACC, then ACC would be at 15 schools. Currently the Big 12 stands at 10 schools. Drop BAILER entirely, then the remaining 9 school fit nicely in the remaining 4 conferences to make 16-team conferences that are natural playoff brackets.
 
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will5 said:
If Notre Dame fully joins the ACC, then ACC would be at 15 schools. Currently the Big 12 stands at 10 schools. Drop BAILER entirely, then the remaining 9 school fit nicely in the remaining 4 conferences to make 16-team conferences that are natural playoff brackets.
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Neither of those things are going to happen.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Yep. Will leave the B12 as the only conference in FBS that doesn't have divisions, I think.
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And that's by choice.

Pass up perfectly good teams to get to 12 members for some reason. I could almost see a couple of teams jumping ship (again) if another P5 conference opened up it's membership. Especially if it continues being the OU/Texas show.

I'd welcome WVU and Okie State into the SEC.
 
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Grand Vol said:
And that's by choice.
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It's honestly the better way to go. If you're going to ultimately play a round-robin, which both the Sun Belt and Big XII will do, then it makes more sense to take the two best teams rather than two division winners. You're going to have a rematch either way; better make it count.

Pass up perfectly good teams to get to 12 members for some reason.
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"Perfectly good" is in the eye of the beholder. None of the remaining mid-majors, with the possible exception of BYU, are worth the cost.

I could almost see a couple of teams jumping ship (again) if another P5 conference opened up it's membership. Especially if it continues being the OU/Texas show.
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That's going to happen, except that OU and Texas will lead the jumping. The Big XII is going to have very little value when their contracts expire. OU and Texas will look to greener pastures, and the luckier dwarfs will be able to tag along.

I'd welcome WVU and Okie State into the SEC.
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I'd rather the SEC just take 80 million dollars out into a field and set it on fire. It would have roughly the same fiscal result, and we wouldn't have to worry about making trips to Morgantown and Stillwater.
 
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No way I'd want West Virginia. And OSU is going to hook their wagon with OU as long as possible.
 
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bamawriter said:
It's honestly the better way to go. If you're going to ultimately play a round-robin, which both the Sun Belt and Big XII will do, then it makes more sense to take the two best teams rather than two division winners. You're going to have a rematch either way; better make it count.



"Perfectly good" is in the eye of the beholder. None of the remaining mid-majors, with the possible exception of BYU, are worth the cost.



That's going to happen, except that OU and Texas will lead the jumping. The Big XII is going to have very little value when their contracts expire. OU and Texas will look to greener pastures, and the luckier dwarfs will be able to tag along.



I'd rather the SEC just take 80 million dollars out into a field and set it on fire. It would have roughly the same fiscal result, and we wouldn't have to worry about making trips to Morgantown and Stillwater.
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Agree with most of it, but the BIG XII's handling of what looked to be their expansion was horrid, and teams like BYU, Houston, Memphis, etc... bring just as much, but probably more to the table than an Iowa State or Texas Tech.

And not that I'd invite Okie State or WVU, but time of travel wise going to Stillwater or Morgantown is hardly any different than going to College Station from a Bammer's perspective...
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
No way I'd want West Virginia. And OSU is going to hook their wagon with OU as long as possible.
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There's a shift in attitude with the two schools. OSU used to be the little brother (still is to an extent) but they've proved they deserve an equal seat at the table in recent years they really don't have. There is resentment there with the "old hats" in the conference. As well as the resentment over the Longhorn Network which isn't equal to anyone in that conference.
 
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Grand Vol said:
There's a shift in attitude with the two schools. OSU used to be the little brother (still is to an extent) but they've proved they deserve an equal seat at the table in recent years they really don't have. There is resentment there with the "old hats" in the conference. As well as the resentment over the Longhorn Network which isn't equal to anyone in that conference.
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True; and 10 years ago people would be laughing if you said TAMU would seemingly get the last laugh on Texas.
 
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bamawriter said:
"Perfectly good" is in the eye of the beholder. None of the remaining mid-majors, with the possible exception of BYU, are worth the cost.
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Agree partially with BYU. But Houston, Memphis and Central Florida were all worthy contenders with decent funds to go with them. Even Air Force, Boise State, Utah State or Colorado State wouldn't be horribly bad picks to round up to 12.

bamawriter said:
That's going to happen, except that OU and Texas will lead the jumping. The Big XII is going to have very little value when their contracts expire. OU and Texas will look to greener pastures, and the luckier dwarfs will be able to tag along.
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OU, maybe, but doubtful. Depends on what kind of financial deal they get going in. And specifically where they are going. If it's the SEC, they know they very likely will end up in the west where they get to play an SEC West schedule. And that ain't no picnic. Big Game Bob is content to win 9-11 games a year which keeps his job safe. If he plays Bama, LSU, Ole Miss, Auburn, Arkansas, A&M, MSU and whatever permanent cross division rival he stands a chance of 8 or less wins a year which puts him on the hot seat.

Texas, no way they jump ship. They won't go anywhere they have to give up the Longhorn Network. They would go indie before joining a conference which would require them to give up the rights to that network and the associated funds that go with it.
 
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