Federal Indictment of Donald Trump

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DonjoVol said:
That's often what some of these trolls do when they lose all intelligence and can't debate someone. They resort to personal attacks. Happens rather often on here and tends to be the same crowd that does it. They also can't deviate from their script.
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Yes
and that blade cuts both ways
 
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There is NO possible, NO reasonable, NO even arguable reason Trump should have taken those documents much less kept them.
 
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utvols88 said:
Which docs are you referring to?
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Any of them. As a matter of law.

But definitely the top secret super high classification ones.

The investigation now will be why. Remember, the feds gave him numerous chances to turn them over. And he kept refusing.

His reason by definition is an illegal one.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Any of them. As a matter of law.

But definitely the top secret super high classification ones.

The investigation now will be why. Remember, the feds gave him numerous chances to turn them over. And he kept refusing.

His reason by definition is an illegal one.
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You don't even know what they are lol.
 
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Of interest. Per Yahoo...

"According to the Washington Post and New York Times, the reason the Justice Department pushed so hard to recover missing classified documents from Trump’s home was that the documents — all of which Trump had improperly taken from the White House before his term expired in January 2021 — pertained to some of the nation’s most carefully guarded secrets. Those secrets, the Times reported, included so-called “special access programs,” which are considered classified above a Top Secret level.

Special access programs — often called “codeword” programs, because they can be identified by a single codeword that is itself classified — can be anything from foreign intelligence collected on an adversary’s nuclear stockpile to the schematics for nuclear reactors used to power American submarines.

I asked an acquaintance from my university days, a former US Navy submariner, whether the presence of nuclear-related documents at Mar-a-Lago could make a difference in what will happen to Trump. His response was short and to-the-point.

“He’s going to prison,” he said.

You see, when it comes to protecting anything related to nuclear anything, the US government simply does not mess around.

Trump’s former position gave him access to the full gamut of intelligence and information available to the American government. Once he lost that position, he reverted to the same status as anyone else, which meant he lost any claim to possess the classified documents he’d ordered to be boxed up and sent to Florida before he left the White House.

I asked my formerly seagoing acquaintance why he was so sure Trump would end up behind bars because of some boxes he’d previously had free access to. He said: “It’s like child pornography. If it’s on your computer, you do the time. If he has the documents in his possession or on his property, he will go to prison.”

Trump spent his entire presidency running out the clock on investigations, often by defying subpoenas or suing to block access to whatever records any adverse party wanted from him or his administration. He could have returned those documents when he was asked. Most likely it would have been a minor annoyance with a few days of negative news coverage as a result.

But he mistook the government’s earlier efforts — including requests from the national archives, and later a subpoena from the DOJ — as weakness and supplication from the Biden administration. He appears to have placed a bet that he would be protected by the same forbearance that led Ford to pardon Nixon, and led Obama to largely ignore George W Bush-era torture.

He may well have bet the house, and it’s very possible he will lose this time. Maybe that’s why he was such a bad casino operator."
 
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