Federal Indictment of Donald Trump

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hog88 said:
They didn’t know because supposedly it was an informant that told them he didn’t hand everything over.

If the the DOJ knew he had TS/SCI documents but elected to play a cat and mouse game with him:

1- the documents must not be of much intelligence value
or
2- the DOJ is doing the bidding of their political masters
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You are going to spin anything. Cat and Mouse? No, Politics, Maybe?
Bottom Line: Makes no difference of how they got there, Bones don't Lie and they nailed him.
You are to busy trying to figure out the journey vs the end result.
Republicans could have easily gotten a case against Hillary but they did not I wonder why?
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Lol.

The statute is publicly available. It’s cited in the filing. Didn’t you say you read the filing?
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I did and I would agree with you if it weren't for the fact that some of the documents supposedly recovered were classified TS/SCI. That designation is supposed to be reserved for our nations most sensitive secrets and the DOJ would have moved much quicker and wouldn't have needed an informant to tell them all of the documents were not returned.

Hell look at the Snowden timeline, he takes TS documents (in electronic form) mid May, the FBI was looking for him before he even leaks info and is charged in less than a month.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
You are going to spin anything. Cat and Mouse? No, Politics, Maybe?
Bottom Line: Makes no difference of how they got there, Bones don't Lie and they nailed him.
You are to busy trying to figure out the journey vs the end result.
Republicans could have easily gotten a case against Hillary but they did not I wonder why?
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Because she is apart of the untouchable class.
 
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Statement by FBI Director James B. Comey on the Investigation of Secretary Hillary Clinton’s Use of a Personal E-Mail System — FBI

From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent.
 
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hog88 said:
I did and I would agree with you if it weren't for the fact that some of the documents supposedly recovered were classified TS/SCI. That designation is supposed to be reserved for our nations most sensitive secrets and the DOJ would have moved much quicker and wouldn't have needed an informant to tell them all of the documents were not returned.

Hell look at the Snowden timeline, he takes TS documents (in electronic form) mid May, the FBI was looking for him before he even leaks info and is charged in less than a month.
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That doesn’t make any sense, if you actually read it (which I sincerely doubt).
 
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hog88 said:
How doesn't it make sense?
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I’ve already told you: Because their recitation of the facts provides a plausible third alternative, which is supported by published statutes and the constitutional requirements for obtaining a warrant.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
I’ve already told you: Because their recitation of the facts provides a plausible third alternative, which is supported by published statutes and the constitutional requirements for obtaining a warrant.
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And I simply said that I do not buy that alternative.
 
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Why doesn't our truth tweeter former president splain why he brought all that **** home with him anyway? OK, I can understand letters, notes, doodles or magazines, but secret national security documents?
 
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Hunerwadel said:
Why doesn't our truth tweeter former president splain why he brought all that **** home with him anyway? OK, I can understand letters, notes, doodles or magazines, butt secret national security documents?
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Even better question is why doesn't the government explain how it was missing for so long without them knowing.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Acted more quickly to retrieve the documents.
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The FBI didn't even know there were (supposedly) classified documents missing until NARA referred the matter to the FBI on February 9, 2022 after they inventoried the 15 boxes of material Trump turned over to them. Over a year after he left office! Once they were informed of Trump (supposedly) having classified documents they did act fairly quickly considering a former POTUS was involved.

The way the filing reads the government didn't have a clue that (supposed) top secret documents were missing until NARA reviewed what was turned over.
 
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hog88 said:
Because she is apart of the untouchable class.
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Meh... DJT and his Lock Her up Rants. Seems he would have made this happen in 4 years. So DJT could not touch her as much as he stated he would and had the power to do it. I am not buying it, but you can plainly see the DOJ was also involved as well as some other govt agencies. Congress Controlled by Republicans and they could not make it stick.... Must be something in the water you are drinking...We will see but my best guess is Politics prevented it not the untouchable. DJT never forced the issue after he got in office just used it as fodder on the campaign trail.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Meh... DJT and his Lock Her up Rants. Seems he would have made this happen in 4 years. So DJT could not touch her as much as he stated he would and had the power to do it. I am not buying it, but you can plainly see the DOJ was also involved as well as some other govt agencies. Congress Controlled by Republicans and they could not make it stick.... Must be something in the water you are drinking...We will see but my best guess is Politics prevented it not the untouchable. DJT never forced the issue after he got in office just used it as fodder on the campaign trail.
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Since when did the president get the power to lock someone up?
 
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hog88 said:
The FBI didn't even know there were (supposedly) classified documents missing until NARA referred the matter to the FBI on February 9, 2022 after they inventoried the 15 boxes of material Trump turned over to them. Over a year after he left office! Once they were informed of Trump (supposedly) having classified documents they did act fairly quickly considering a former POTUS was involved.

The way the filing reads the government didn't have a clue that (supposed) top secret documents were missing until NARA reviewed what was turned over.
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Ok, and? The FBI doesn’t maintain classified White House records. That would be the responsibility of the White House staff of the president at the time records were created and then the national archives.
 
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hog88 said:
Since when did the president get the power to lock someone up?
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At the same time he can magically throw a wand over classified documents and declassify them. He had the DOJ and FBI at his disposal and one would think he could have done something to put her in Jail.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Ok, and? The FBI doesn’t maintain classified White House records. That would be the responsibility of the White House staff of the president at the time records were created and then the national archives.
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That would be the responsibility of whatever agency or permanent WH staff was responsible for the documents. Red flags and searches would have started the moment Top Secret documents weren't returned to the place they were signed out of.

@NorthDallas40 has given us a pretty detailed description of how TS documents are tracked and inventoried.
 
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