Federal Indictment of Donald Trump

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Ernest T. Vol said:
Trump would be gone now if they had just ignored him. I will say this, if he has accomplished anything, he has made it impossible for the dems to hide their crazy. In their rage, they have made a mess.
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agree with this. They got exposed by not waiting it out and now the chickens have come home to roost.
 
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NCFisher said:
I'm amazed that someone this unobjectively ignorant would be so laughably self-assured. I'll walk you through this as if you have 35 chromosomes.

The constitution delegates the president as the sole classification authority. It is not subject to the removal of "top secret tags", EO protocol established by a prior president, congress, an agency, or anything except the plenary power vested by the Constitution. The classification system is literally a construct of executive orders dating to 1951; it is rules to live by for everyone except the president, and is not binding on successive presidents. This is why Garland did not attempt to make a criminal case of the possession or classification status of the docs Trump held, which he would have to argue, eventually, to SCOTUS. This isn't the petty shite CNN would reduce it to.

When FBI visited MAL in June, they left with documents in response to a May 11 subpoena which specifically did not refer to classified documents but rather specified documents “bearing classification markings”. DOJ's Jay Bratt told Trump to maintain storage of remaining documents at MAL and not to move them, and make some minor security improvements.

Trump was president on Jan 19-20 2021 when he publicly declared he was declassifying documents: In one of his final acts, Trump declassifies documents on FBI's Russia probe and internally in the months leading up to his leaving office: Documents at Mar-a-Lago Marked 'Classified' Were Already Declassified It has not been shown that the documents he referred to were other than those at MAL.
Does the vice president have constitutional classification authority? - "Nope". Is there any evidence the documents in Biden's possession were declassified, or was he even VP these last six years he possessed them? - "Nope".

Those are the meaningful distinctions. Now go put some salve on that.
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Go ahead and think about the ramifications of what you are claiming. It is nonsense. You might be the only person in America that believed Trump when he said he could declassify documents by thinking about it.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Go ahead and think about the ramifications of what you are claiming. It is nonsense. You might be the only person in America that believed Trump when he said he could declassify documents by thinking about it.
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Arrest both Trump and Biden now. You know if one of us did this we would never set foot out of Federal Prison for the rest of our natural lives. I am sick and tired of the double standard. And I don’t mean Democrat vs Republican, I mean politicans vs everyone else
 
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OrangeTsar said:
You REALLY don’t want Trump to go away do you? He is the easiest 2024 opponent you guys can get. If he goes away, we might just nominate someone more electable. Chose your enemy carefully my friend 😉. A conservative without the baggage is your worst nightmare
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Nah, the GOP is too damn stupid to denounce Trump
 
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GAVol said:
I love the qualifiers in every story about Biden. No . . . I don't think there's anything particularly sinister about this discovery, but it's comical watching news outlets go out of their way like MSN did here.
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Unfortunately, as we see on this very board, there are many people who seem unaware of the differences. Given the echo chamber nature of the far right, it is necessary for everyone with some sense to round up all the nonsense spewed in the echo chamber lest it go unchallenged and perpetuate itself.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Unfortunately, as we see on this very board, there are many people who seem unaware of the differences. Given the echo chamber nature of the far right, it is necessary for everyone with some sense to round up all the nonsense spewed in the echo chamber lest it go unchallenged and perpetuate itself.
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You have yet to point out the differences.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
He is now. He can pardon himself.
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Yes, he could do that. Obama could have said he declassified them before he left office. But that ship has sailed so what we have now is a sitting president that has absolutely no defense or excuse for possessing those documents.
 
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hog88 said:
Yes, he could do that. Obama could have said he declassified them before he left office. But that ship has sailed so what we have now is a sitting president that has absolutely no defense or excuse for possessing those documents.
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quick stroke of the pen to declassify and pardon. ez pz
 
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lawgator1 said:
Unfortunately, as we see on this very board, there are many people who seem unaware of the differences. Given the echo chamber nature of the far right, it is necessary for everyone with some sense to round up all the nonsense spewed in the echo chamber lest it go unchallenged and perpetuate itself.
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I agree, but I also think we should confirm the differences before we assume the differences.
 
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Majors said:
Especially after the election night and the momentum Desantis has. He needed to cool a bit and should of passed the torch but we all know that was not going to happen.
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You don't have to pass the torch but you shouldn't resort to childish insults and provide leftist fodder.
 
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