Federal Indictment of Donald Trump

[volgr]

I agree in total. There is nobody to step up and fill the role at the moment.

The GOP is misaligned. The Party wants to be one thing and the base wants to be another.

 

[volgr]

Will the GOP only turn out for a radical nut job?

The GOP wont turn out for a Neoclown like Haley. They will turn out for someone you would consider a radical.

 

[luthervol]

You and your party will try to frame anyone who wins the GOP nomination as such.

There is a radical nut job continuum. Trump is at the highest position ever, DeSantis is not far behind.

We view anyone who wins the GOP nomination as a radical nut job inversely to how you view anyone who wins the GOP nomination as a rino.

 

[BreatheUT]

It makes perfect sense. I'll try to walk you through it.
Step one:
Do you think Trump ever intended to prosecute Clinton in the event he won the election?

The POTUS doesn't prosecute. That would've been a decision led by Barr. Unlike Garland, Barr is an honest decent human being. Though I think Clinton was guilty as she was never POTUS, I think it was just campaign rhetoric for Trump.

 

[Matt2496]

The GOP wont turn out for a Neoclown like Haley. They will turn out for someone you would consider a radical.

What makes her a neocon?

 

[luthervol]

The GOP wont turn out for a Neoclown like Haley. They will turn out for someone you would consider a radical.

And you have just identified the GOP's biggest problem, and what will cost them the 2024 election.

 

[luthervol]

The POTUS doesn't prosecute. That would've been a decision led by Barr. Unlike Garland, Barr is an honest decent human being. Though I think Clinton was guilty as she was never POTUS, I think it was just campaign rhetoric for Trump.

Of course he doesn't prosecute, but he could have pushed for it. You understood the question.
And you did answer it, it was campaign rhetoric.
So Trump campaigned that it was appropriate to use the legal system to go after your political opponents because he knew it would rile his base.

 

[turbovol]

That makes absolutely no sense but it worked itself out in your mind though.

Trump's ranting about Hillary in '16 was just political rhetoric and nonsense--using a conspiracy theory to stoke up the rubes. There was no chance
of Clinton being charged with anything because she did nothing wrong. But using conspiracy nonsense to demonize Dems (and Democratic women) is a favorite political tactic of the right--they've tried to do the same thing with Harris, as we've seen, and Biden, others. Conspiracy theories are the stock-in-trade of conservatives/MAGA; GOP candidates and pols use them to fire up the base because the base will believe anything. It's all become especially virulent in the era of fox and trump--a network and a gangster who spew BS 24/7. Look at QAnon--laughable, comic-book stuff but rubes lap it up. Nothing's too crazy.

 

[OrangeBoro]

Will the GOP only turn out for a radical nut job?

You all do

 

[Velo Vol]

 

[lawgator1]

I've now read it. If what is in there is true Trump should get prison time.

 

[Velo Vol]

Should he be judged by the standard he publicly espoused?

 

[Matt2496]

There is a radical nut job continuum. Trump is at the highest position ever, DeSantis is not far behind.

We view anyone who wins the GOP nomination as a radical nut job inversely to how you view anyone who wins the GOP nomination as a rino.

The ole continuum. LOL. It's such a cheap way of generalizing. I'll never forget the "granny off a cliff" attack ads against Romney and Ryan, two of the most moderate Republicans around. Democrats will try to frame anyone who wins the GOP as a radical. That's just historical precedent.

Also, I've been very clear that I don't want either Trump or DeSantis to be nominated.

 

[CobbVol]

Saw this on another site. This is an excerpt from a 2016 amicus brief by the ACLU arguing the unconstitutionality of the Espionage Act which is what Trump is being charged under:

 

[lawgator1]

I mean, wtf is he doing showing people military attack plans ?!?!?!?!?

At best he's a freaking idiot.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

I've now read it. If what is in there is true Trump should get prison time.

Aren't you about out of hand lotion & in need of another box of Kleenex?

 

[lawgator1]

Aren't you about out of hand lotion & in need of another box of Kleenex?

Hahahahahahaha


Ha


Ha

 

[BreatheUT]

Of course he doesn't prosecute, but he could have pushed for it. You understood the question.
And you did answer it, it was campaign rhetoric.
So Trump campaigned that it was appropriate to use the legal system to go after your political opponents because he knew it would rile his base.

Hillary destroyed sensitive data to avoid having to report it. She also used personal servers to send sensitive emails.

 

[Velo Vol]

Hillary destroyed sensitive data to avoid having to report it. She also used personal servers to send sensitive emails.

"In my administration we are going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information."

--Candidate Donald Trump

 

[lawgator1]

"In my administration we are going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information."

--Candidate Donald Trump

Look at this! Here's an attack plan. Look at this! This shows our vulnerabilities to attack.


Guy has no business in government. At any level.

 

[loggervol]

Trump's ranting about Hillary in '16 was just political rhetoric and nonsense--using a conspiracy theory to stoke up the rubes. There was no chance
of Clinton being charged with anything because she did nothing wrong. But using conspiracy nonsense to demonize Dems (and Democratic women) is a favorite political tactic of the right--they've tried to do the same thing with Harris, as we've seen, and Biden, others. Conspiracy theories are the stock-in-trade of conservatives/MAGA; GOP candidates and pols use them to fire up the base because the base will believe anything. It's all become especially virulent in the era of fox and trump--a network and a gangster who spew BS 24/7. Look at QAnon--laughable, comic-book stuff but rubes lap it up. Nothing's too crazy.

 

[volgr]

True

 

[VolinMichigan]

Did Trump go after Hillary once he was in office?

This is a coordinated effort we're seeing right now. Maybe Biden can make the willful ignorance claim since we know they don't share much with him.

Because he knew it wouldn’t result in anything. He had people around him telling him these things. Do you honestly think Donald Trump of all people resisted the urge to investigate his political rivals because of some code of honor? Please. It’s because he knew it was all BS, and that he could point at Hillary every time he messed up and the morons would get riled up again. She was more useful as a monolith.

 

[Orangeslice13]

You and your party will try to frame anyone who wins the GOP nomination as such.

While supporting someone just as bad if not worse

 

[luthervol]

The ole continuum. LOL. It's such a cheap way of generalizing. I'll never forget the "granny off a cliff" attack ads against Romney and Ryan, two of the most moderate Republicans around. Democrats will try to frame anyone who wins the GOP as a radical. That's just historical precedent.

Also, I've been very clear that I don't want either Trump or DeSantis to be nominated.

That's no more true than the fact that the right will frame any dem nominee as a radical socialist.
I've said multiple times I would like to see both sides put up one of their more moderate candidates.